Leo Gura

@electroBeam Your ideas of enlightened people are silly.

What about if someone walks in with a straw?

@Flyboy Yeah, and you'll find that it's even worse than that. You'll find that you still have important lessons to integrate from Blue, Orange, and Green.

@electroBeam That's all cute, but it doesn't address the substance of what I said. Becoming a bear in your dreams is not the same thing as a breakthrough salvia trip. And shamans used psychedelics! So it's rather odd to use shamans as a case against psychedelics. Becoming a bear is not the same level of freak out as becoming a toilet seat. Nobody here is gonna mediate in a cave for 40 years. So citing such examples is absurd.

Dude, you have no idea how a psychedelic can shake you. Smoke a breakthrough dose of salvia and you will turn into a glass of orange juice, and all your enlightenment will melt away along with your sense of human life. What most enlightened people talk about is weak-sauces states of conventional consciousness. They have no idea how deep consciousness can really go. It is not possible to know such things without serious breakthrough trips on a wide variety of substances. There is no way you will mediate or self-inquire your way to such radical degrees of consciousness. Most teacher even acknowledge that it's possible to become conscious as an inanimate object.

@ZenSwift Good! You're doing things wisely.

That's not guaranteed. Progression is rare for many folks. People easily get themselves stuck. His problem is that he linked his career with that male macho teaching stuff. So it's gonna be hard for him to sheds its dysfunctions. "It's hard to to get a man to understand a thing when his career depends on him not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

That's the problem right there

Blind conformism. 90% of people who vote do not seriously think about actual policy. They vote based on their gut feel, which is governed by their level of Spiral development. Voting is not a logical activity. It's more akin to watching porn or scratching an itch.

Success! A good intro trip. It will get much crazier in the future, so watch out. You don't know the power those shrooms can unleash.

"You wanna know why your life is so fucked up? Show me the bums you hang around with." -- Dan Pena *Looks around forum* So ORANGE!

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I explain it to myself like this: 1) The Green value system can easily be turned into an ideology without properly building up to it. You can just get programmed by the value system via your environment without growing into it yourself through inner work. This creates a flakey veneer of Green. In this case it might be a Green ideology which is almost as though adopted by stage Blue like people. 2) Green is a deep stage with lots to master and integrate. Most people who are "Green" aren't solid Green. They are dabblers. 3) It's easy to talk Green and believe Green while not having a solid foundation in Blue & Orange because someone else pays your bills. To truly lock down Green requires going off on your own and building a quality life. Which will necessitate exploration and mastery of Blue and Orange. I think many college kids are missing this.

They are as real as the floor you imagine is holding you up in space

They still don't get it. INFINITY!

It's too abstract, complex, and intellectual for most normies to care about. It's a model for serious students of this work, not dabblers.

This topic is not appropriate for this forum.

The insecure male ego that is struggling to differentiate itself.

A is A and not B. If A was B, then A would not be A, it would be B. If you want to know A, examine A, rather than asking for it to be explained in terms of B.

That's nice and all, but that still doesn't mean you understand how to attract a woman. I understand your frustration, but this thread is not about helping you, it's about helping a guy. From the guy's POV, when it comes to attracting females, listening to their advice is usually counter-productive. Yes, but the context of this discussion is how to attract a female. If the context were reversed, I would say the converse. If you were a female asking how to attract a great husband, I would say, don't necessarily listen to what guys tell you on that topic. Exactly.

Guys ares simple creatures. Getting a guy excited is the easiest thing in the world. Just send a sexy pic.

@Arcanus It goes way deeper than all that surface stuff. You just need to realize that your relationship with anyone is already 100% unique. You don't have to try to be unique or special because you already are that. Just honor (be conscious of) the uniqueness of every moment and being. You can build love with ANY aspect of reality, person, or creature. There is no limit to love. The limits are self-imposed by thinking too much inside the box and by fear.

What you call sick, other men jerk off to

Patriarchy in a nutshell:

Your true form can't be told to you. So keep self-reflecting until you get it for yourself.