Leo Gura

Ideology and survival always serve each other. The function of ideology is survival of the self. And the self cannot survive without money.

Red loves Red. Which is why Trump loves all the Red authoritarians around the world and they love him.

Lol

You have to be careful with how you measure things, your personal selection biases, and how you define terms like "conservative" since it is all relative. A) Even old people today are still more liberal on many issues than they were 40 years ago. For example, 40 years ago most people viewed homosexuality as wrong/a mental illness, most people were openly racist and sexist, and would freak out over talk of socialism. Today, the culture has evolved so much that same people have come to accept many liberal positions like gay rights, women's equality, anti-racism, etc. B) Most people don't do any serious inner growth after they hit 25. They get stuck at whatever stage they are at at 25. Such people will get entrenched in their worldview and double-down on it. This is explains why they become conservative. They just stay in place while culture around them evolves. It's a relativistic thing. If culture evolves but you don't, you will look like a dinosaur even though you haven't really changed. If you were born in the 1950's and you got stuck in your development, then by the standards of 2020 you will look like a racist, sexist, homophobe, etc. Because your mind is still living in the 1960's. C) The majority of people do not advance even one stage after their 20's. Because they do no inner work. So most Spiral evolution happens generationallly and collectively, not at the individual level. That guy born in the 50's may still be conservative today but his children and their children will be a lot more liberal because culture has evolved a lot and their minds were not stuck in the 60's. I doubt this is statistically valid. This is probably just your selection bias because you are young yourself. Also, youth are easily influenced by trends and propaganda. Their is a significant chunk of American youth which is brainwashed and radicalized by right-wing propaganda and ideology. Christian youth, young conservatives, incels, alt-right, white nationalism, people who follow Jordan Peterson, etc. Even today many youth are raised by stage Blue conservative parents who indoctrinate them. But overall I think if you do careful statistics you will see that youth are far more liberal than their parents. Even conservative youth is still gonna be more liberal than their conservative parents. You just don't appreciate how bad their conservative parents were. Today's conservative youth is still far more liberal than people were in the 1950's. Almost no conservative today would say that schools should be segregated by race, that blacks shouldn't have a right to vote, that it's okay to beat women if they act up, that gays should be put in jail, and that socialists should be put on trial as traitors and blacklisted. Yet these were all common positions in the 1950's. You'd have to be almost blind not to see how much society/culture has liberalized in the last 70 years. It's a shocking rate of evolution. People just take it for granted.

You mean Tucker Carlson? Zing!

They didn't jump on it to make a good living. They jumped on it because that's their level of consciousness/development. Ideologues are true believers in the BS they peddle.

Just distraction.

The kind of stuff we are interested in cannot be outsourced to some robot logician in a white lab coat. Such standards are totally inapplicable when we are talking about consciousness and holistic understanding of the human condition. There's never going to be some simple, brute-force, binary test that you can run on these kinds of models. These models require a deeply intuitive mind to comprehend. You have to be able to intuitively connect hundreds of dots using a deep intelligence. It's like proving evolution. There's not a single simple fact which can prove it. Evolution is a holistic model which requires connecting thousands of dots to see a bigger picture. The only reason people accept evolution today is because some geniuses connected all the dots for them and then a hundreds years later, once there has been a massive cultural shift, people think of it as obvious and factual. Likewise, it might take 100 years before Spiral Dynamics is taken seriously. Never forget that we are talking about the cutting edge of human knowledge here. So it will all be denied by the status quo, as usual. Take a look at how Ken Wilber's work has been treated by academia. It's basically been ignored, even though it's some of the most brilliant stuff that exists. But it's so advanced academia has no way of handling it so it ignores it. The mistake here is expecting academia to validate cutting edge advanced wisdom. If you want the highest wisdom and knowledge it's YOUR JOB to validate it yourself. Stop sucking on society's tit and learn to chew your own food. Nobody is going to support you in your search for Truth. No body! You will either do it all yourself, or you will not do it at all.

Look man, the point is you gotta go through the labor of figuring out what's true. Not sticking your finger up your ass and feeling hard it squeezes.

Like I said, he has good wisdom. Just ignore the muscle test as a tool. Many of his insights are valid regardless of the test. You don't need that stupid test. Use your intuition to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Even smart people tend to be epistemically sloppy.

You can certainly find a hot witch in Vegas on Halloween.

@Thought Art Hawkins has some top-notch wisdom in his books. Not everything in the books I recommend can be accepted. Maybe 80-90%

It certainly is. You can't trust it.

@Thought Art You didn't apply

Thanks everybody for applying. I got 20 applications -- more than we needed. After reviewing all the applications the following folks were selected: https://www.actualized.org/forum/profile/5651-space/ https://www.actualized.org/forum/profile/3655-universe/ https://www.actualized.org/forum/profile/12829-mu_/ https://www.actualized.org/forum/profile/14080-dimitri/ https://www.actualized.org/forum/profile/4740-michael569/ https://www.actualized.org/forum/profile/7566-max_v/ https://www.actualized.org/forum/profile/12765-bejapuskas/ https://www.actualized.org/forum/profile/2434-moon/ Sorry if you weren't selected. Maybe next time.

That's not the issue. The issue is that you are not pure enough or developed enough to lead such an endeavor without it corrupting you. The bottleneck is your level of consciousness and selflessness.

Over 50% of the world population is at stage Blue or below. Yellow is less than 3%.

The bigger the platform, the more regulation it requires. That'a what you're missing.

You test it by applying it in your life. Of course stages Blue, Orange, and Green will tend to reject SD because they all think they got reality figured out and that they are on top. Good luck convincing Richard Dawkins that he is stuck at Orange with his bullshit materialist logic. And good luck convincing a Marxist like Vaush that there is something beyond Marxism.

A) As soon as your retreat becomes popular, that's when you will be raided. The gov will take off their kid gloves and make an example out of you by giving you a 30 year jail sentence. B) Even if you avoid that somehow, your retreat community will quickly devolve into devilry and become a toxic cult as ungrounded egos start to abuse it for money, power, status, and sex. You are not gonna trip your way out of this problem. C) People will have freakouts and get injured. They will then report you to Feds out of spite.

Community structure

It's a cool idea, but Canada will shut you down once they catch wind of what you're doing. If you are really serious you need to buy a ship and sail it in international waters and sythesize your own chems on the ship. But even so, the coast guard will certainly raid you once you get close to shore. So you'd have to dump all your chems in international waters before docking.