Leo Gura

@SoonHei To his sister, thank you for replying and confirming his death. As of now, I am inclined to believe you that it is true. Although I have no further proof of it. I'm sorry for your loss and I understand it is confusing why a spiritual and happy person would do such a gratuitous thing. There is nothing spiritual about jumping off a bridge. It's clear from his messages that he understood his dream would end. So that's exactly what happens. The dream of life ends. The dream of life is a beautiful gift and ending it prematurely for no good reason (such as extreme suffering) is a ridiculously unnecessary thing to do. Life is meant to be lived out, not ended prematurely. Spiritual awakening can be had here and now, without need of any physical harm to the body. That is the entire point of spiritual work and practice. If jumping off a bridge was valid spiritual practice, then there wouldn't need to be any teachings. The teaching would just be: go jump off a bridge. And obviously no spiritual person teaches that. It frustrates me when people misuse spiritual teachings in such gross and obvious ways. Connor is mentally ill, batshit crazy, and has no integrity. Do not associate my teachings with Connor in any way. He broke everything I told him and I warned him about. I warned him back in December 2020 by phone that what he was doing was antithetical to my teachings. The things he was doing went against the core of what I teach and warned about in my Become A Zen Devil video, and many other videos. He was chronically abusing psychedelics in ways that I warned against from day 1 in my video: How To Use Psychedelics For Personal Development, and elsewhere. He also lied to me multiple times. He lied to me about his chronic psychedelic use, he lied about mental illness, and more. You need to distinguish between what is true and what is convenient from a social POV. It is true that everything is Good and Love. This truth make zero prescriptive claims. It does not justify anything and it does not tell you what you should or shouldn't do. Do not frame this situation such that speaking truth is discouraged or impossible. Myself and others are not going to lie about what is true just because someone might jump off a bridge. The idea that reality is a dream/illusion has been spoke of by mystics and sages for thousands of years, and this understanding is commonly available to anyone who reads spiritual literature. Do not act like Actualized.org invented this notion. All of the spiritual masters you revere and love: Ramana Maharishi, Eckhart Tolle, and whoever else -- have told you that reality is an illusion/dream. Again, this is absolutely true. This is what serious spirituality claims. But it makes no prescriptive claims. It is not like Actualized.org is the first to say that reality is Perfection. This has been said by spiritual teachers and mystics across time. In all of my work I have never acted like relative truths and social issues are unimportant. In fact, I embody the opposite. I speak about Conscious Politics so much because relative social issues are very important. Nobody following my work should get the idea that a healthy society is unimportant or that criminality or doing suffering to others is acceptable. This is so obvious that to even shoot a video stating so would be seen as needlessly obvious. Do I really need to release a video in which I say: "Being a criminal is not good and you should not harm other people? Do not rape or torture others. Do not jump off a bridge." Would anyone who was serious about criminality, rape, torture, or jumping off a bridge watch such a video and listen to it? You see, this is a game that cannot be won. Also, much of my work is not about spirituality but personal development, building a good life, being active in life, living a life purpose, and improving your health. I have never discounted the importance of building a good life, even as I talked about awakening and God and so forth. In fact I have warned against using spirituality as an escape from mastering survival. I talk about the importance of building a Stage Blue foundation. But in the end, if someone decides that they don't want to play the game of survival any more and just want to rest with God, who are we to stop them? From our POV that seems foolish and unnecessary, but if a spiritual seeker wants to end his dream, that is his right and I will not invent some fantasy for why he is morally wrong in doing so. He is not wrong. I would just tell him not to do it because life is a precious gift and ought to be enjoyed, not escaped. A) Truth, consciousness, and awakening are not philosophies. And it has been stated ad nausea not to take them as beliefs or philosophy. The dangers of ideology have been explained by me perhaps more than any other spiritual teacher. All I do is talk about the dangers of ideology. B) Great detail is put into the teachings/videos to explain how self-deceptive the ego-mind is, how selfish it is, how many traps in this work there are, and further elaborations. The fact is that the ego-mind will use whatever stories it wants to justify its selfish actions. If someone wants to blow themselves up for Jihad, they will find a way to justify it in their minds. My work goes into so much length about the ease with which the ego-mind will justify selfish activity and corrupt and co-opt spiritual truths. In the case of Jihad, I specifically teach about the difference between Lesser Jihad and Greater Jihad. There is no contradiction at all. It is simply true that everything is Good and Perfect. This is what awakening reveals. But how you behave has consequences and there are relative truths. If you stick your hand in a fire, it will burn. What Connor did was "bad" only in a relative sense, from a social POV. There is no contradiction here. It's not that I tell him whatever fits my agenda. It's that his ego-mind says whatever it wants to justify however it wants to behave. And this is have taught a lot: that your own mind will trick you and justify whatever selfishness is wants without limit. I also teach how there are many POVs and perspectives, absolute and relative, and that absolute and relative should be not be conflated. It is simply true that reality is a dream. I will say this and teach this whether you decide to torture someone or not. If you decide to torture someone, those consequence are 100% on you, even though its all a dream. Dreams have consequences. It is important to give people warnings about misunderstanding the teachings. And will certainly do more of that in the future, as I have in the past. BUT, all spiritual work has inherent risks, especially when done at mass scale, this is unavoidable and such teachings cannot be made fool-proof. I have also said that many times in the past. No matter what is taught about spirituality, there will always come along some fool, mentally ill person, or criminal who takes the teaching and uses to justify whatever selfish action he wants. When Eckhart Tolle teaches something, "Just be in the now", some fool somewhere will take that to mean, "I can just off a cliff and just be in the now and things should go okay for me". Or when some Christian mystic says, "God forgives all sins and doesn't judge you", some criminal will take that to mean, "Okay, so if I kill my neighbor God will just forgive me and there will be on consequences." Where does it end? How many disclaimers and warnings must be given? The problem is that an ego-mind who is self-deceived will not be interested in any warnings or disclaimers or even reason. Meanwhile reasonable people will find the disclaimers tedious and so obvious as to be unnecessary. The mind has an infinite capacity for denial and it will do whatever it wants to do. We should take measure to prevent genuine misunderstanding of the teachings by reasonable and well-rounded people, but we cannot foolproof this work against people who are criminal, insane, or simply desire to end their life. - - - - - - - I want to make it clear that I take this issue seriously and I am not just here to issue some blanket, self-serving defense. I want to make my teachings safe for all reasonable people, and I want to make clear to people the inherent risks of spiritual work. I have done that in the past in my videos, but I am also interested in being even more clear and explicit about it in the future precisely because the relative social consequences have always mattered to me, and my teachings are meant to reduce suffering and selfishness in the world. It disappoints and frustrates me when spiritual teachings are corrupted or misused, and when spirituality or psychedelics are given a bad name by irresponsible people. But the fact is that corruption and misuse of spiritual teachings is not anything new or unique to Actualized.org. Mankind has been corrupting and abusing spiritual teachings for 2000 year. And that is not going to stop in our lifetimes. But that is not a reason to stop teaching. But I will definitely teach with greater care to preempt misinterpretation as much as possible. It's just not easy to anticipate every possible misinterpretation. It never even crossed my mind that someone would decide to "consciously jump off a bridge". It's hard to even take such an action seriously unless after it occurs. I have said in the past that my teachings will be corrupted. Because that's what the mind does. And this will not be the last time my teachings are corrupted. The reason I record long videos is to provide sufficient depth and detail to avoid future corruption. But the nature of the beast is such that people will still find ways to corrupt my teachings and the longer the videos, the more excuse they will have to say, "But your videos are too long, so I didn't watch them." I have never been under any illusions that my teachers will be corrupted by some minds. That is how this works. I have videos explaining why this corruption is inevitable. But again, this is not an excuse. I will adjust my teachings to make them clearer and more foolproof in the future. - - - - - - - A final important point: Let us not overlook that there is the possibility that SoonHei made a sober, conscious, sovereign choice to end his dream. In which case, as much as we might disagree or not like that, that is really not our call. And it is not correct to automatically assume that what he did was wrong or delusional. It could have been delusional, but it also could have been a conscious choice he made which was right for him. There is no way for us to know. This is not an excuse or a justification for anything. Rather, given his own words, if we are to take his own words seriously and give him the benefit of the doubt, then there is the possibility he made a conscious, sovereign choice to move on into the next dream, or into Infinity, or whatever he imagined. Personally I think it was not a good choice and if he asked me about it I would have told him to not do something so stupid. But who am I to know what is right for him? So the point is, this situation is more complex than it seems.

It does little good for someone who is suffering to tell them that suffering isn't real. They are in no place to care about such distinctions. You also have no idea how much suffering they are in. You assume they can enjoy life like you, but if they seriously want to kill themselves then obviously they do not enjoy life like you. So it's a very difficult situation.

Guys, before you get too carried away with this, we need some evidence or confirmation that this suicide actually happened. It is not a given that it did. Suicidal and mentally ill people can often threaten suicide for attention and other reasons. OP, please provide further evidence or explanation of how you know this suicide actually happened. I take this issue seriously and we need to be clear about facts vs assumptions and speculation. Keep in mind that people on this forum do lie and manipulate sometimes. Sometimes we get people with serious mental illnesses here who behave in erratic and irrational ways, or play games.

Yes, this is one of the challenges of doing deep videos as is my style. I cannot possibly address every misconception people could have in every video. This would only make them longer. The bottom line is that this is advanced work and it cannot be made fool-proof.

You can have some degree of wokeness while keeping those fantasies. But you won't reach the highest levels of wokeness unless you're willing to surrender them. Look, in the end it's very simple. Do you want to know Truth? If you do, you'll be willing to surrender all your ideas to attain it. Whatever is True, is True. There's really no need to worry about it. If solipsism is false, then why you worried about it? And if it's true, why are you worried about it? Subjectively, relatively, I've experienced it as melting into Infinite Love. It feels like you melt into the entire Universe. But even this is not quite correct because from the Absolute POV death simply never even happens. It cannot happen. There is only Consciousness and nothing else. Death is imaginary.

@Tetcher @Hello from Russia Do not derail this topic with petty bickering.

I stressed the point about making a commitment to never harm one's body recently in this video: https://www.actualized.org/articles/is-actualized-a-cult

https://www.actualized.org/articles/the-dangers-of-spiritual-work

Keep in mind that suicide is not so rare in the general population. 48,000 suicides in the USA in 2018. My videos have nearly 100 million views. With numbers like that, some of our members will at some point commit suicide. This is inevitable. And ultimately, people have the sovereignty to kill themselves. You cannot stop them if they are set on it. Nor do you even have the right to stop them as that is you imposing your agenda and will on them. What's important to underscore is that spirituality and enlightenment has nothing to do with physically harming the body. I've said that in the past and I will stress it more in the future. A few weeks ago I started to add larger disclaimers to my videos stressing the point that enlightenment has nothing to do with harming of the body. You can find the new, larger, clearer disclaimers under my recent videos on YT. These larger, clearer disclaimers will soon also be added to the Actualized Clips channel. It is very important that people who follow these teachings clearly understand that these teachings have nothing to do with physical harm of one's body or prematurely ending one's life. Which is really obvious, but it must be stressed regardless because some people get very foolish ideas. Life is a dream and a game, but if you jump off a bridge, this dream will end and you will probably regret it. Not only should you not harm your physical body, you should take good care of it, being extra responsible with your health. A spiritual person must treat their health with more care than the average person.

I have hydrogen.

A) Are you sure this is true? How do you know he jumped off a bridge? B) I don't understand what jumping off a bridge has to do with spiritual work. Did he tell you what his logic was? C) Did he say if he had a history of mental illness?

Hehe, welcome to the wonderful world of idiot doctors. $150 is cheap. It gets a lot worse. In fact, you got a double case of SIBO: hydrogen and methane. Which will be harder to cure. P.S. You cannot use any garlic if you have SIBO. You should avoid all spices to be safe. Just use salt.

@Vision You obviously got SIBO. What is there to even discuss? The bottom line is you gotta kill that shit to zero.

No it isn't. You are saying misleading things and I don't sense that you know what God is. I said the things I said in my recent video precisely because no-self and enlightenment is not enough to realize God. I know many enlightened people, and few of them have realized God. You can argue with this all you want, but I have made my position clear and that is what I teach. If you don't like it, feel free to teach whatever you want to your people. Those few who some day realize what I have realized will understand why I stress what I stress and not something else. Realize what God is. The rest is childsplay.

If you know the material and you train yourself its not so hard. And I use outlines in some cases.

You should be able to clear that out with the antibiotics. Try doing 1 month of natural antibiotics, carnivore, and no probiotics. That should clear out a lot of stuff and end your bloating. Although there are no guarantees. Gut bacteria imbalances can be very challenging to fix, especially if you have some underlying health issues like auto-immunity.

@Flowerfaeiry Do you want to know how you created reality?

Usually a probiotic is not a good first option. It is safer to kill off the bad bacteria with antibotics, and then slowly add probiotics after your antibotics are done. Many probiotics contains prebiotics which will feed the bad bacteria. So you must avoid prebiotics until you kill them off. Doing a month of natural antibiotics is the best way to begin this process. But you have to take them seriously, 3x per day for at least a month.

Sounds like you got some imbalance in your gut bacteria which feeds on sugars and carbs. That's why carnivore helps, but also isn't enough because you gotta kill the bad bugs. Your doc can prescribe some antibiotics or you can use natural antibiotics over a month like Allicin, grapefruit seed extract, berberine, oregano oil, and others. Probiotics could help, but they could also make things worse. Depends. Getting a SIBO breath test will tell you if you got SIBO, which is likely.

God is no-self. God is Infinite Self. There is no contradiction here at all. Nothing = Infinity BUT!!! Just because you realize no-self does not mean you realize God/Infinity. It's easier to realize no-self than it is to realize God/Infinity. And there are many degrees of realizing God/Infinity. I don't know why you guys are so confused about these matters since this is basic nondual theory. There is nothing controversial here.

You should be going out 3-4 nights a week for at least a year, every week, with the goal of doing 1000-5000 approaches. This is what is realistically takes to get results.

Otherwise known as: JLP's Razor

Stop overthinking and go talk to girls. You will discover the answers as you try to attract them.

Stop making these kind of threads.

@The Mystical Man You are making it into a false choice. You can do both. What I stress is pure consciousness and understanding, because that's what matters most to me. Everything else is secondary. You can be at peace and all that, but still not be fully conscious.