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Then again, if Obama the Muslim Kenyan was eligible, then surely I am too It doesn't seem to stop Ted Cruz who was born in fucking Canada.

@mandyjw You can buy one of those fake comedy store glasses-nose-mustache gags and wear it for a day. It will help the awakening process

I've made my points. I'm done here. My only real point is this: notice your self-biases. This applies to men and women. That is all. That's all these threads boil down to. If you ladies wish to start threads about how to build intimacy and a conscious relationship, go for it! I'm sure guys will benefit from it too. But be mindful of this important difference: you taking responsibility for building inimitacy vs putting that responsibility on guys. If you are the one doing personal development the responsibility falls on you. This is true for girls and guys alike. I would much rather see threads in this sub-forum about how to proactively do stuff rather than these pointless gender wars. Start a mega-thread on how to build intimacy and start loading it up with actual content rather than debating in circles about who's farts stick more. Honestly, I'm sick of these gender wars. They are not constructive.

Yes, there can be some love and consciousness. I have no problem with "feminine containment". I encourage guys to do that. But doing that requires the guy become stronger and more grounded in himself. Less of a nice guy. Which is how this whole debate got fired up. Yes, you may be right. I have my biases and my experience with pickup certainly gave me a certain highly pragmatic and realistic POV. It's a bit like being a solider who comes home from Vietnam. He has a very stark view of the brutality of that kind of game. When one does a lot of Game A, one starts to see Game B as unrealistic. I can flip that back around on you. Why would a women be interested in confidence and intimacy if she doesn't want kids? Why have sex at all with condoms or birth control? It's both. It can be a justification for guys to be assholes sometimes. But it's also true that women are attracted to that kind of behavior. So it's hairy. I have sex very rarely. I invest most of my energy into my work, my contemplations, and my awakenings. So be careful what you assume. Few men in my position have sacrificed as much sex as I have for a higher cause. Do I like a hot girl over the opposite? Of course. Any guy does. Notice how you dismiss the male's natural attraction, as if there is something wrong or shallow about it. An enlightened master will still enjoy some big tits. Consciousness does not mean you start blowing homeless people under the bridge. You still have standards and preferences. You got yours, and I got mine. The difference is, you try to make me feel bad about mine whereas I don't try to make you feel bad about yours. If you want love and intimacy with a guy, great! That's your agenda. If you were a man, you would be here typing as most of the men do. Recognize that. Love, consciousness, and intimacy are also important for men, but physical attractiveness is a higher priority for many men. That does not mean intimacy never happens -- which is how many of you ladies interpret it. It still happens. Men are not single-minded. Just because we like big tits does not mean we don't also like companionship and intimacy and relationship. Just like how you like humor, that doesn't mean you will only have sex with comedians and there will be no intimacy or anything else. You like humor + confidence + strength + muscles + leadership skills + intimacy + financial security + passion + consciousness + etc. It's actually worse than you think. Both men and women want the FULL package. Nobody is fooled by a single good trait. One good trait ain't good enough. That's like going to buy a car and only caring about the wheels. Buying a car is a complex holistic decision. Likewise with finding a mate. The thing you ladies don't get about intimacy is: intimacy is easy! Intimacy can be built with literally any bum on the street -- if you really wanted to. But of course you would never do that. For a man, prioritizing intimacy is not important because it will automatically happen regardless of what girl we choose. No matter what girl I end up choosing, I know that I will build crazy deep intimacy with her. Hence I don't even need to consider this factor when choosing a girl. So I screen based on other factors that I care about. Now, many guys have intimacy problems. So I highly encourage them to work that out and go for deep intimacy with the girl of their choice. Nothing I say is anti-intimacy or deep relationship. Lol You took my point a bit too literally. My point still stands. You just have to be intelligent about how to apply it. Visit a quality paid porn site, not some freebie porn sewer full of sexual deviants and degenerates watching homeless people fuck.

@mandyjw Look in the mirror. He is you.

I would certainly not go for it. P.S. I'm not even eligible to be President. Precisely because someone like me is needs to educate people before Conscious Politics can become a thing. Being in politics is not aligned with my LP. Yes, but not me. No, I would have no interest in lobbiest money. Or making friends. Because I have bigger fish to fry. The Presidency is too small for me. Seriously. Only a fool would trade the Presidency of the Universe for Presidency of the USA. My aim is Infinity, not finite human bullshit.

Of course! Devilry has good cause, otherwise it would not exist.

I never said it was. It is A factor. The human body is incredibly complex and there is never one single factor for anything. There are hundreds of factors.

No, she found them funny. A lot of times the power of an obnoxious joke is not that she finds it funny per se, but what is sub-communicates about the guy. If a guy can spew off obnoxious jokes while having fun, smiling, not giving a fuck, and owning the whole room -- that is an honest signal of strength that women love and crave. Being a boss is more powerful than making her laugh. But you have to pull it off very congruently. You have to be on fire when you do it. If you try to do this as a creepy, shy, beta male, she might call the cops on you. It requires a very fine balance that can only be developed through massive experience and trial and error. There have been plenty of times when I bombed with an obnoxious joke. Like bombed so bad that she might call security or ask her guy friends to bounce me. That certainly can happen. Some girls are shy and will just listen and watch without saying much, but she is still getting attracted below the surface. She does not need to be talkative to get attracted.

Isn't that obvious? What guy actually likes those toothpick tomboy fashion models? They are good for some avant-garde pretentious art shows, but they are not what the average guy wants to nail. If you want to know what average guys find hot and high-value, go to a porn site with user voting and search for 5-star rated videos. There you go. Not much mystery to it. What guys like is very obvious. The problem is that women really dislike knowing what guys like because most of them ain't it And hey, I get that. If I was a woman I wouldn't like it either. I would think its "gross" and shallow. Women just want to be loved regardless of their looks. Unfortunately that's not how most men work.

Yes And it would be great if we lived in a world without nukes. But we are stuck with nukes for the time being and it would be foolish for any one country to fully disarm. Game B is a great ideal. Unfortunately is barely exists in today's world and it is unrealistic to expect it. You are free to play Game B if you want, but don't be surprised when most people are playing Game A as you play Game B. This is what keeps Game B from being commonplace. We are stuck in a precarious survival situation, an arms race. It is helpful to appreciate and accept that. That, in fact, is a necessary part of escaping Game A. It is sort of like you are saying: "Go ahead and disarm all your nukes. You don't need them. Look, I've disarmed all of mine." But in fact you have not disarmed all of yours. And we are wise to this. You got a nuke in your back pocket. You clever devil

Even if I grant you that (which I don't, because in fact your ego cannot handle the raw truth of such things as you believe), the reality is that most women cannot handle the raw truth of it, so games will be played. You are not one woman in the world. You are part of 4 billion other women, and men's dating strategies will not revolve around your exceptional case but around how average women react. And average women react very poorly to truth about male attraction. You yourself reacted poorly to it earlier in this thread by calling it "gross". When you call a man's deepest desires "gross", can you really blame him for not being truthful about it with you any more? Men would love nothing more than to be honest about their desires for women and not play games. But life has taught men never to be so foolish or naive. Being honest and direct hurts men's survival. Which is why they are not honest or direct. The reality is that most women require plausible deniability and anti-slut narratives in order to sleep with a man. Hence games are played. If a man walks up to a woman in front of all her friends and say, "I like you. Let's go fuck." and she says, "Yes" she will forever be disgraced and excommunicated from her social circle. Which for a woman is about as bad as death. So she is forced to say, "I'm not that kind of girl", even though she wants to fuck him. And hence game is born.

Well, now you understand why conscious relationships are so rare. It's possible, but it's very challenging precisely for these reasons. Because the whole point of most relationships is selfish gain. If you didn't desire selfish gain you probably wouldn't ever enter a relationship to begin with. So there is a deep existential paradox here. Why relate at all if you need nothing? And if you need something, then you are selfish and that selfishness will sour your relationship. This is the whole problem of desire. As Buddha said, all desire leads to suffering. And so it does. So if you enter a relationship you should be aware that your doing so will cause suffering. The suffering is existentially baked into the structure of the thing. Because the truth is, if you were happy without a relationship, you wouldn't pursue it at all. If you think about it, a relationship is really no different than shooting up heroin. You are a fool if you think there won't be suffering involved. If you're going to do it at all, at least admit to yourself that there will be suffering, rather than doing the surprised pikachu face when it inevitably blindsides you upside the head. Think about it. The best case scenario in a perfect long-term relationship is that you die before your partner does. Or else you have to watch them die and suffer terribly. But either way, one of you will suffer terribly.

Haha! Now you are playing the ultimate game. Your game is to get everyone to stop playing games so that you get the upper hand. You see how sneaky you are?! You want mating and survival to be honest, but survival is grounded in dishonesty, selfishness, and manipulation. The desire to make survival selfless and honest it the highest form of dishonesty and self-deception. Human mating will always involve games, because it is a game. The fact that it has serious consequences does not make it any less of a game. In fact, that's what makes it such a serious game. Since the stakes are life and death, games will be played by both sides. This is the nature of the beast and if you want to be honest then you have to start by admitting that. The most honest position in a dating situation is this: "I will game you and you will game me. Let's play and see what happens. Let's enjoy it." When you say: "Oh, I'm above that. I don't play any games. I'm not selfish like you, so you should stop being selfish and stop playing games because that's gross." << that is dishonest and that is your game.

He can't tell you that because you will get disguised and leave. You can't handle hearing what a man is really attracted to, you want him to be attracted to what serves you. Hence men have to hide and play games. Because unless he plays games, you will reject him. If a man walked up to a woman and honestly said, "Hey, I find you sexy. Let's fuck." He would never ever get laid. But that is honestly how most guys feel. But we also know you ladies would never accept it, hence we play games. You want the man to be attracted to your nonphysical attributes, but that is not what a man needs most from a woman and it is not what he is most attracted to. And no amount of logic will change that. So again, the issue is one of self-bias. If you find men's sexual attraction gross, that's not the man's problem or fault. That's your self-bias and it is part of your game. It is like finding it gross that peacocks are attracted to big tails. That is not the peacock's problem. That is your problem. There is nothing inherently gross about it. The peacock likes what it likes and your desire for the peacock to like something else, something that you want him to like, is selfish and absurd. Imagine if you scolded a peacock at the zoo and told it to stop liking big tails because it's too shallow and empty, and instead to like personality and deep intimacy. The peacock would look at you stupid, and carry on with chasing big tails, as it has for a million years.

It is true that we can and should pursue higher stuff. Game B. But we also have to recognize that we are deeply stuck in Game A right now, and that is not easy to ignore. Most guys are barely able to survive playing Game A such that Game B is like talking calculus to a mule. And here's the thing: most women are playing Game A too. Very few women are playing Game B. So few that it is not a viable dating strategy to tailor your game to Game B women. The ladies on this forum are advocating for Game B dating and relationships. That's great. But that can only happen in rare cases. Most men here are concered with getting laid, and for that purpose Game A is most effective. So we have here not only a male vs female bias issue, we have a Game A vs Game B issue.

Now it is you who's being biased. That is not true at all. Plenty of men are monogomous. The situtation is not as bad as you portray it be.

Everyone loves a big pair of tits. Fun for the whole family

I meant that consciousness is in no way limited to what archetypes humans invent. This was an existential point that does not necessarily mean archetypes are not useful. I think they can be useful for newbies to get their bearings. For example, you could say that I fit a philosopher archetype. And that is would have been helpful for me to know 10-20 years ago. But nothing beats the God archetype once you discover it

@Raphael It's so funny how cultures which are so different are also so predictably similar. I'm waiting to see some Buddhist monks with a private jet preaching prosperity gospel

There is no comparison. They a very different substances.

You can't change her. She has to want to change. She will have to make serious permanent dietary changes. The first of which should be cutting out all wheat products forever. Good luck convincing her of that.

One time I was just confident 150% at the club -- I was just on fire -- I talked to this one girl and just plowed her with confidence for like 15 minutes straight, making obnoxious jokes and just laughing. She just stood and soaked it in for 15 mins, not saying much. After those 15 minutes were done, she followed me around like a lapdog. Totally owned. She would follow me into hell. Unfortunately I was not attracted to her. I was so on fire that I forget to check if I was actually attracted to her. That's the power (and danger) of not giving a fuck. But it was an eye-opening lesson in the power of raw confidence and detachment. It works like magic.

Research, research, research! Buy books and read them. The root cause of many auto-immune conditions is either a food or environmental toxin trigger that aggravates the immune system. You must find the trigger and eliminate it. Could be gluten, dairy, heavy metals, plastics, trans fats, MSG, preservatives, food coloring, metal fillings, pesticides, or a thousand other things. Traditional doctors are clueless and will deeply mislead you on this condition. Their advice can not only be not-helpful but even harmful.

My point here is meta. It's a point about self-bias and how it distorts the perceptions of both men and women. I agree that selfish men can and will take my words and use them to act like devils. No doubt about it. It does not even need to be said. Just like shy guys will have a harder time attracting and keeping women. Which is why women with nice tits love to show them off to everyone in subtle ways. She knows how powerful it is. She uses those tits to score a higher quality man. A beautiful woman knows how to use her beauty to skate by in life, in the same way that a bird knows how to flap its wings. They've even done studies on this. Women with bigger tits earn 30-40% more tips as waitresses or cashiers than the same woman with smaller tits. They will do the experiment with the same exact woman, but stuff her chest with cotton to triple her cup size. She starts earning way more tips of course. It fact, if you are a waitress, getting fake tits just makes pure business sense because they will pay for themselves within a few years. $7000 for a pair of big tits is a money maker. Which is why most strippers get fake tits. A stripper in Vegas with huge tits will earn back her money within a month! The nice thing about money is that it shows you very starkly what a thing is worth.