Are Unconditional Love And Enlightenment The Same?

[Live Life Liam]

I was just recently watching a Mooji live stream and in a lot of his teachings he tells us to find the space of love in our hearts. Not to mention the fact he's so full of love towards every human being which makes me wonder if being enlightened means loving all since you have no ego to now limit your being.

It probably isn't true because there are other enlightened teachers who arent as loving as mooji but maybe it is I couldn't know. So the question I'm asking is that maybe unconditional love and Enlightenment are linked in similar ways. Teal swan also seems to think so with her video about unconditional love.

I've personally noticed the more I love the less identity I have and had times when it can disappear entirely. 

What do you think?

 

Edited November 8, 2016 by Live Life Liam

[vizual]

There is no such thing as conditional love, if it is conditional it isn't love. And the only thing that is unconditional is pure consciousness/being, you could say that consciousness and love are the same thing. If you define enlightenment as the realization and the merging with consciousness then that also means that person aligns with unconditional love. 

By the way, love can express itself in a countless number of ways. Even hate ultimately consists purely out of love. Just because Mooji expresses himself in such a heartfelt and emotional way doesn't mean he is more loving than guru's who express themselves in a more intellectual or impersonal way.

[Bizarre]

@Live Life Liam

Yes, I'd say they are very closely related.

I am going to word it differently though, because of my personal background and the path I'm on, what I've been taught and my own experiences too, I think they are not strictly the same.  

Here's why:

Enlightenment is also known as freedom, liberation from bondange, liberation from the sense of doership and personal responsibility for the person, which also frees you from assigning responsibility to others, as they are not strictly doing anything, nor can be held accountable.  The shakti (energy that appears as form) is the doer.

So even though enlightenment doesn't feel like anything, there is a strong unconditional love aspect to it as this shows up in "you" as the form you are.  

There is a saying "a yogi in samadhi sees no difference between a lump of goal and crows poop" which essentially means that the yogi is aware that despite the appearance that these two things are separate forms, they are made of the same substance, consciousness existence.  So all "love" is really love for the self, self love, as for an enlightened person her understanding is that there is only one self.

So yes, unconditional love appears in the experience of the free person.  But it's not something one "does" it just happens because of this understanding of who he is.

On the flip side this does not mean that enlightened people don't get upset at others, and gross violations of the rules here.  As enlightenment is freedom from the person and freedom for the person this also means the person is free to feel whatever they like,  but it always comes from a place of freedom rather than the dishonesty created by desires that come from feelings of separation and limitation.

[Live Life Liam]

8 minutes ago, GTITurbolover said:

@Live Life Liam

Yes, I'd say they are very closely related.

I am going to word it differently though, because of my personal background and the path I'm on, what I've been taught and my own experiences too, I think they are not strictly the same.  

Here's why:

Enlightenment is also known as freedom, liberation from bondange, liberation from the sense of doership and personal responsibility for the person, which also frees you from assigning responsibility to others, as they are not strictly doing anything, nor can be held accountable.  The shakti (energy that appears as form) is the doer.

So even though enlightenment doesn't feel like anything, there is a strong unconditional love aspect to it as this shows up in "you" as the form you are.  

There is a saying "a yogi in samadhi sees no difference between a lump of goal and crows poop" which essentially means that the yogi is aware that despite the appearance that these two things are separate forms, they are made of the same substance, consciousness existence.  So all "love" is really love for the self, self love, as for an enlightened person her understanding is that there is only one self.

So yes, unconditional love appears in the experience of the free person.  But it's not something one "does" it just happens because of this understanding of who he is.

On the flip side this does not mean that enlightened people don't get upset at others, and gross violations of the rules here.  As enlightenment is freedom from the person and freedom for the person this also means the person is free to feel whatever they like,  but it always comes from a place of freedom rather than the dishonesty created by desires that come from feelings of separation and limitation.

Brilliant explanation! 

[Bizarre]

1 hour ago, Live Life Liam said:

Brilliant explanation! 

Yes it was!

Sometimes I'm just amazed at my own brilliance...

Errm, I mean, I'm amazed at God's brilliance  not mine, 'Im not the doer of course...

 

[Bizarre]

@Live Life Liam I checked out your channel on youtube, but there is nothing on it  

[Live Life Liam]

2 minutes ago, GTITurbolover said:

@Live Life Liam I checked out your channel on youtube, but there is nothing on it  

There are 3 videos haha. That's strange if you didn't find anything? Check the video section. The uploads are on there.

Edited November 8, 2016 by Live Life Liam

[Live Life Liam]

5 minutes ago, GTITurbolover said:

@Live Life Liam I checked out your channel on youtube, but there is nothing on it  

I fixed the issue. Thanks for letting me know though