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I forgot to explain my take on the term transfinite. I found an original paper by Georg Cantor!

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"That ℵ0 is a transfinite number, that is to say, is not equal to any finite number µ" - Georg Cantor, Contributions to the Founding of the Theory of Transfinite Numbers, page 104 https://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~v1ranick/papers/cantor1.pdf

A finite number is an ordinary number such as 100 grains of sand. 10 trillion grains of sand is of course also a finite number of grains. And we can make the finite number larger and larger.

My take is that actually a transfinite number is not an infinite number. A transfinite number has infinite potential yet is not the same as actual infinity. Imagine dividing a line in half and then dividing those halves and dividing the lines again and so on infinitely fast. As the Thomson lamp paradox shows, this process can't reach infinity. So the total number of lines is transfinite.

Infinity on the other hand is not a number. George Cantor wrote:

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"The actual infinite arises in three contexts: first when it is realized in the most complete form, in a fully independent otherworldly being, in Deo, where I call it the Absolute Infinite or simply Absolute; second when it occurs in the contingent, created world; third when the mind grasps it in abstracto as a mathematical magnitude, number or order type." - As quoted in Mind Tools: The Five Levels of Mathematical Reality (1988) by Rudy Rucker

"The actual infinite was distinguished by three relations: first, as it is realized in the supreme perfection, in the completely independent, extraworldly existence, in Deo, where I call it absolute infinite or simply absolute; second to the extent that it is represented in the dependent, creatural world; third as it can be conceived in abstracto in thought as a mathematical magnitude, number or ordertype. In the latter two relations, where it obviously reveals itself as limited and capable for further proliferation and hence familiar to the finite, I call it Transfinitum and strongly contrast it with the absolute." - Wikipedia (translated from German)

Notice that Cantor wrote that the created world is transfinite, not infinite. That's similar to how I think of the manifested world, that it's information that expands forever yet never reaches infinity. At any given moment in time the total information of manifested reality is finite, yet the information expands infinitely fast and in that sense is transfinite.

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Leo said in his new video that there is an infinite number of world views and even an infinite number of sciences. That's correct as I see it when using the term infinite here as meaning transfinite.

So ok, there is a useful reason for why today the term 'transfinite' has been replaced by 'infinite'. In ordinary everyday speech and writing it would more confusing to use the term transfinite. People would think: what the heck does transfinite mean? Haha. The term infinite is more intuitive for things that are endless.

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The other concept I mentioned is complexity. I think that complexity is extremely important to understand. Going from the personal stage to the transpersonal stage is I believe precisely an increase of complexity.

Here is the introduction to the current Wikipedia article about complexity:

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"Complexity characterises the behaviour of a system or model whose components interact in multiple ways and follow local rules, meaning there is no reasonable higher instruction to define the various possible interactions.[1]

The term is generally used to characterize something with many parts where those parts interact with each other in multiple ways, culminating in a higher order of emergence greater than the sum of its parts. The study of these complex linkages at various scales is the main goal of complex systems theory.

Science as of 2010 takes a number of approaches to characterizing complexity; Zayed et al.[2] reflect many of these. Neil Johnson states that "even among scientists, there is no unique definition of complexity – and the scientific notion has traditionally been conveyed using particular examples..." Ultimately Johnson adopts the definition of "complexity science" as "the study of the phenomena which emerge from a collection of interacting objects".[3]" - Wikipedia

Notice the mentioning in the Wikipedia article of what Neil Johnson stated: "even among scientists, there is no unique definition of complexity".

I will try to make my definition of complexity more formal. I will start with the high level definition:

Definition: Complexity is information structured as holons.

I think that's a good start but it's too vague. How is that structure actually achieved? And what is the criteria for determining if information is structured as holons? Could be really tricky! But I will try to come up with a more detailed definition of complexity. 

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I now have an idea for starting to explain complexity! A holon is a whole that at the same time is a part. And by information I mean the usual meaning such as binary information.

As an example S is the binary string 0111001. The string S is a holon as a part of reality. And the bits in S are also holons! The bits are wholes that are parts of S. That's a simple explanation. It's only one holon level though. As a next step I will try to figure out how to achieve several holon levels within a binary string.

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Holons form holarchies. That's similar to hierarchies, but according to Wikipedia there is a difference:

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"A holarchy is a connection between holons, where a holon is both a part and a whole. The term was coined in Arthur Koestler's 1967 book The Ghost in the Machine.

Holarchy is commonly referred to as a form of hierarchy;[1] however, hierarchy, by its definition, has both an absolute top and bottom. But this is not logically possible in a holon, as it is both a whole and a part. The "hierarchical relationship" between holons at different levels can just as meaningfully be described with terms like "in and out", as they can with "up and down" or "left and right"; perhaps more generally, one can say that holons at one level are "made up of, or make up" the holons or parts of another level. This can be demonstrated in the holarchic relationship (subatomic particles ↔ atoms ↔ molecules ↔ macromolecules ↔ organelles ↔ cells ↔ tissues ↔ organs ↔ organisms ↔ communities ↔ societies) where each holon is a "level" of organization, and all are ultimately descriptive of the same set (e.g., a particular collection of matter). The top can be a bottom, a bottom can be a top, and, like a fractal, the patterns evident at one level can be similar to those at another." - Wikipedia

When using only information it's possible to make the holarchy a hierarchy with an absolute top and bottom. For example the binary string S = 100111010111111010101 can be structured as a tree where each branch contains a part of S. That's a holarchy! So that's a simple way of achieving holon levels. Then the question is how to encode the tree structure within the binary string itself. I will try to come up with a solution to that.

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Consciousness is not a holon, but all the content in consciousness consists of holons. Consciousness is connected to infinity. The content in consciousness however is always finite. And that content can be described as information.

And the information defines both immaterial things such as thoughts and memories and also physical objects such as cars and flowers. On a physical level each holon is clearly defined with an absolute boundary. An atom for example can be a part of a molecule and although it may seem that an atom is some fuzzy cloud, in my model the atom is described by an exact piece of information at each moment in time.

So one tricky thing is that the holarchy for reality also needs to include the dynamical aspect of things changing. Another tricky thing is that a human body is a holon, but where to define the boundary between the body and the external environment? A water molecule evaporating from the body, is that molecule a part of the body or not? My answer is the radical proposal that there is an exact moment in time where the molecule detaches from the body. And I mean exact, down to the last single bit of information.

So holons always have exact boundaries. A thought for example is a holon as a part of a person who is a larger holon. Now it gets even more radical (and potentially wacky, haha) and that is that even the thought has an absolute and exact boundary in terms of information.

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An incredible example of holons is when Alice eats an apple. Alice is a holon and the apple is a holon. At what point in time does the apple cease to be a holon? Let's call that point in time T. It surely seems like it's impossible to exactly determine T. But is it impossible? No, according to my model T is determined by the infinite intelligence of reality.

I have heard several people, including Leo, saying that reality has/is infinite intelligence. Granted, my holon idea is extreme but I think it's doable. It's just that one needs to take a huge leap from the belief that the universe is unintelligent to the idea that reality has infinite intelligence.

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Oh! Leo mentioned an excellent (from my confirmation bias view :D) quote from eminent American theoretical physicist John Archibald Wheeler. Here is a longer version:

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"It from bit symbolizes the idea that every item of the physical world has at bottom — at a very deep bottom, in most instances — an immaterial source and explanation; that which we call reality arises in the last analysis from the posing of yes-no questions and the registering of equipment-evoked responses; in short, that all things physical are information-theoretic in origin and that this is a participatory universe." - John Archibald Wheeler

Now I feel inspired to continue with the holons and information idea. Ken Wilber mentioned how Whitehead described how reality progresses by each subjective moment turning into an objective moment which in turn becomes the next subjective moment. Something like that. That's the participatory aspect I think, that Wheeler mentioned in the quote.

So, each moment is a holon that is observed and that observation becomes the next moment as a larger holon and so on. And I don't even need to include extra information for that single line time holarchy since my model already defines how the information of manifested realty expands in larger and larger chunks. So that explains time. Simple.

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Is manifested reality relative? Yes, the information that produces our manifested reality is a relative point within the totality. But now it gets tricky. Because that information itself is absolute and changeless.

So here I have the opposite view of Leo's view! Leo says that everything experienced is relative. My model says that everything we experience is absolute at the most fundamental level (even the relative point of our reality can be seen as absolute).

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Haha, this may not be a serious explanation but it's possible to structure the information as holons very easily. Let's say that a binary string S contains 14 holons. Then the first part of S contain the number 14. And the next information contains the number of holons at the highest level. And each of those holons contains the number of the (child) holons they contain and so on until all holons in the string have been defined.

Notice that there can be a different number of holons at each level. 

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To make the tree structure for holons more realistic each holon needs to have more structure than just a parent-child/whole-part relationship. And the information for this gets incredibly complicated. Take a fetus growing inside the mother for example. The fetus is a holon, a part of the mother as a larger holon. Then when the baby is born it's still a holon but no longer a part of the mother, yet the relationship to the mother remains.

The baby has more relationships that just for the whole/part structure. The baby has a relation to its mother and another relation to its father. And the baby has a relation to the nation and to all kinds of things and people in society. All of that complicated information however can be included in the description of the holon itself. So the main holarchy structure can still be like in the simple form in my previous post.

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Hmm... Water has a holon structure to it. All water on earth forms a holarchy. And in the human body water has an amazing holon structure, such as each cell having its own contained water that is highly regulated through ion pumps and things like that.

And the blood together with the extracellular fluid inside the human body forms one large holon. Capillaries, the smallest blood vessels, are more like nets than tubes so that the water in the blood and the water in the extracellular fluid form one unit.

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Leo said that it's impossible to prove that reality is infinite. I can prove it! Well, only within my model. Leo is probably correct that all models are finite and cannot explain the infinite. The claim that all models are finite is definitely true.

I have posted this somewhere else but find it worthwhile to repeat. According to my model reality is a block of changeless information. And that block manifests infinitely fast. So if reality as a whole was finite it would halt immediately.

And constraint is even stronger than just demanding infinity. It must also be non-repeating information. Because repeating information will also lead to a halt of reality, and therefore then time would be impossible. For example the number 1/7 = 0,14285714285714285714285714285714... repeats forever and according to Wikipedia the repeating sequence (called repetend I learned now) for 1/7 is 142857. 

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I predict that Trump will win the election. The BBC wrote one hour ago that Biden has 52% and Trump has 43% according to polls. Someone said that there are lies, damned lies and statistics. So I'm counting on that the statistics are wrong.

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Flocks of birds and schools of fish can move physically as one unit.

So definitely with a collective consciousness we humans will be able to move physically as one unit too and in even more complicated ways that animals can. And the physical human body movement is controlled by the cerebellum in the brain. That's an indication I believe for the cerebellum being the collective "spiritual internet" connection while the heart is the emotional connection. Moving as one unit is beyond personal capability, it's transpersonal capability.

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Guy Finley, a "disciple" or what to call it of Vernon Howard said that fear will be removed when we lose interest in the fear. And to me the personal stage and fear go together! So we need to lose interest in the personal stage.

The crystallized ego drains its own energy and so-called energy vampires are merely a result of our own crystallized ego draining us and energy vampires can feed on that energy. That's my insight from what Guy Finley said in this recent video:

 

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Oh! Wow. I now realized that COVID-19 has shut down the personal stage for the whole world. Donald Trump said in a recent speech at a rally that in the past he was told that vaccines ensured immunity for a lifetime, and now they are telling him that a vaccine is only temporary and can be as short protection as three months. Sounds like Trump has been fooled by the greedy medical industry including academia. Or maybe he was talking about the drug they gave him and not the vaccine.

I do NOT believe that COVID-19 is a conspiracy cooked up by the medical industry. At least not from the bigger picture perspective. I suspect that the whole medical industry is a conspiracy and that they have taken advantage of the pandemic opportunity. COVID-19 however could be a natural evolutionary marker for the end of the personal "caterpillar" stage of humanity and the beginning of a "cocoon" stage collective. That idea I already had, but what hit me now is that even physical movement is severely restricted for people now due to the pandemic.

Then what if it later turns out that COVID-19 was actually a scam fabricated by the medical industry? Who, knows, one has to be radically open-minded. Even then my claim still holds. The medical industry then still only has taken advantage of an opportunity. And the opposite may also be the case, that the medical industry is innocent regarding the whole pandemic situation. So there is a whole spectrum of possibilities.

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In this latest video Shunyamurti said that the ego is collective. That's what I have been thinking. The ego is a result of society which itself is at the personal stage of development. So the ego is a collective conditioning of separation.

 

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I think that there will be a huge change in the world within just a few decades, from a collective ego at the personal stage to the beginning of a transpersonal world. But the ego stage is also very valuable since it contains the unique creativity of our civilization, so there will be a transcend and include even of the collective world ego.

And also, the transpersonal stage will take centuries to mature because it's a massive shift. So the world will remain as it is and only gradually change, but also with some huge sudden shifts, such as has already happened with the coronavirus crisis.

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Aha! I was thinking that if Trump wins then I can look into Spygate and stuff, but I need to wait with my own speculations. Because even if some of them are true, it could harm the larger plan. Things must be revealed in precise order and with exact timing. I haven't a clue when to do that, except when I get an intuitive insight based on a peaceful feeling instead of trying to rant prematurely, haha.

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