Humans were never meant to wake up from the dream

[Hyperion]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes, I understand what you’re saying.

No offense, but your posts and replies don't make it sound like you do. 

6 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

If the Absolute has no opposite. Then there’s no relative, there’s no dream.

"There’s no relative" is a relative perspective.

"There’s no dream" is a relative perspective.

Even "the Absolute has no opposite" is ultimately a relative perspective. 

See, you are still trying to hold on to certain particular perspectives / illusions and construct a specific worldview / identity that is based on these perspectives. Which isn't necessarily a "wrong" thing to do... it's just that being attached to said perspectives keeps you stuck in delusion.

10 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

There’s just the Absolute, but how would the Absolute has no opposite know it’s without opposite, and what would Absolute even mean to the Absolute?

Maybe this helps.

 

[Mellowmarsh]

23 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

No offense, but your posts and replies don't make it sound like you do. 

"There’s no relative" is a relative perspective.

"There’s no dream" is a relative perspective.

Even "the Absolute has no opposite" is ultimately a relative perspective. 

See, you are still trying to hold on to certain particular perspectives / illusions and construct a specific worldview / identity that is based on these perspectives. Which isn't necessarily a "wrong" thing to do... it's just that being attached to said perspectives keeps you stuck in delusion.

Maybe this helps.

 

Right, so all you’re saying now is that only the relative is known. All there is is the dream and nothing known beyond the dream.

[Hyperion]

23 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Right, so all you’re saying now is that only the relative is known.

What I am saying is what I wrote in the OP of my thread: You can only experience / be conscious of specific parts or aspects of reality that "stand out" by contrast (-> exist). The Absolute aka. the totality of reality can therefore only ever be known by approximation.

23 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

All there is is the dream and nothing known beyond the dream.

Again, that's a relative perspective... meaning that it is both relatively true and relatively untrue. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Hyperion

[Mellowmarsh]

58 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

What I am saying is what I wrote in the OP of my thread: You can only experience / be conscious of specific parts or aspects of reality that "stand out" by contrast (-> exist). The Absolute aka. the totality of reality can therefore only ever be known by approximation.

Again, that's a relative perspective... meaning that it is both relatively true and relatively untrue. 

 

Okay, I understand what you are saying, and I have no quibble with. I agree with you. 
 

That’s what I’m showing here in this thread. We were never meant to wake up to the totality of absolute being because only the relative is experienced, not the absolute. 

[Hyperion]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

We were never meant to wake up to the totality of absolute being because only the relative is experienced, not the absolute. 

Well again, "we were never meant to XYZ" is a relatively (in)valid statement that in one sense is true and in another sense is untrue.

As a matter of fact, I would argue that what we call life is nothing but a continuous and neverending "waking up" process. Without this ongoing process, there could and would be no experience of reality, because where there is no evolution, there is no change and therefore no contrast.

But of course, that's just another relative perspective, so make of it what you will.