The thinker cannot use thought to reach enlightenment

[Mellowmarsh]

Realising that your most basic nature is rooted in a vast, unconditioned reality means that transient”thoughts”lose their solid grip, appearing insubstantial like a dream.

Silent not- Knowing presence is the only real and true reality. Untouched, unwritten, unspoken by thought.
One who can abide silently as this eternal space of pure aliveness is truly free, and wholesome.

The ( thorn ) metaphor meaning that a temporary concept, tool, or remedy (the second thorn) is used to eliminate an existing problem or illusion (the first thorn), after which both must be discarded so they do not cause new suffering. ( Once Removed ) 

Blessed is S/he who trips without psychedelics. 

[Mellowmarsh]

The Trap of Overthinking

The Loop: The mind feeds on itself, turning simple observation into endless calculation.

The Illusion: We value symbols and ideas (like money or digital photos) more than real, living experiences.

The Verdict: Thinking is a useful tool, but a terrible master.

[Mellowmarsh]

When we overanalyse everything, we mistake the map for the territory and lose touch with direct, physical reality.

[Mellowmarsh]

[Joseph Maynor]

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The Trap of Overthinking

The Loop: The mind feeds on itself, turning simple observation into endless calculation.

The Illusion: We value symbols and ideas (like money or digital photos) more than real, living experiences.

The Verdict: Thinking is a useful tool, but a terrible master.

I  know you emphasize the trap of overthinking.  I don't know if this is the right way to frame it.  

Because there is a creative way to use thinking that I know you appreciate sometimes.  

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Because there is a creative way to use thinking that I know you appreciate sometimes.  

What creative way to use thinking are you referring to, thinking about, exactly? 🤔

[Joseph Maynor]

5 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

What creative way to use thinking are you referring to, thinking about, exactly? 🤔

Can you answer this for yourself?

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Can you answer this for yourself?

Can you?
 

[Joseph Maynor]

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Can you?
 

I don't know lol.  

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

I don't know lol.  

But upstream you assumed you knew I knew. Lol.

[Joseph Maynor]

11 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

But upstream you assumed you knew I knew. Lol.

I think you are assured you know. 

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I know I know but is not a know if that makes sense.  

“Because there is a creative way to use thinking that I know you appreciate sometimes.” 
 

What is this creative way to use thinking that you know I appreciate sometimes? Are you going to tell me what you know I appreciate sometimes or not?

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

“Because there is a creative way to use thinking that I know you appreciate sometimes.” 
 

What is this creative way to use thinking that you know I appreciate sometimes? Are you going to tell me what you know I appreciate sometimes or not?

Ode to Mellomarsh LOL.  

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I think you are assured you know. 

I don’t think so. 

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

I don’t think so. 

I appreciate you.  

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Ode to Mellomarsh LOL.  

Oh well thanks for ponying up the answer. So you did know,even though you said you didn’t. Okay. 

[Joseph Maynor]

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Oh well thanks for ponying up the answer. So you did know,even though you said you didn’t. Okay. 

You like cannot I've determined.  You seem to resonate with that concept.  

[Mellowmarsh]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I appreciate you.  

Thinking is a useful tool, but a terrible master.
Tomorrow you’ll be telling me to get lost, you might even ask me to block you again.

 

Who exactly are you appreciating here? 

[Mellowmarsh]

4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You like cannot I've determined.  You seem to resonate with that concept.  

Cannot is still CAN not. I don’t think you really understand this, I could be wrong. 😑 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

Thinking is a useful tool, but a terrible master.
Tomorrow you’ll be telling me to get lost, you might even ask me to block you again.

 

Who exactly are you appreciating here? 

i don't trust you.  You do your thing and leave me out of it,.