Plz try this experiment in your sleep

[kavaris]

Before you fall asleep, up to the point of leading into it, try focusing on a single word. Pick any word, a name, a place, an object... Then go to sleep and imagine talking to a man or a woman, a normal human being.

Then have them either come up withtheir own word based on that, or have yourself repeat the word back to them (engaging in like a *single word conversation). And just go deeper into that experiment. Eventually, so long as youve gotten it right (and it may take time) you should have a tough time distinguishing the original word.

Like, its essense and separation should suddenly find itself dependent on a feeling you had assoc. w/, . and upon finding yourself in a dream context, is no longer recognizable. And again, its to the point where its like, you can be holding two words that are like "best options"... "two of the closest words in the spectrum", And neither will validate theirselves as matching that original felt word. Like it naturally slides away, and im not sure theres a destination there, but a realization bout the essence of a thing, and the confusion we live in, which is not to say that you are *suppose to be confused all the time either. Its just weird.

Edited yesterday at 07:08 PM by kavaris

[glassfire]

You think the person was you in that state. How do you know they weren't your artificially generated clone from false memories?

Edited 18 hours ago by glassfire

[kavaris]

okay heres a good solution, As i was looking for a good resolution, or way to really encapsulate something that is the telos~the end of the linearized direction, or atleast, the sharp turn of a single direction, And i think @ 25:00 - 30:00  this idea of just "opening ourselves up", or simply "being receptive" is both part of how you have the experience, as well as how you are to traverse *out from it ~ into areas where you can make better heads or tails [insert any scenario].

As theres really a new language thats being pointed towards, but we can still talk about the ways in which we engage w/ that space; some call it subconscious, some might call it, iuno, like an ego death sortve space i guess, but you are still "You", experiencing things. I mean you are living to learn, living to understand something thats gonna be confusing, For its already deceptively confusing anyway. Like, as you Enter the self-temple, it encapsulates the "revealing" and the "non-revealing", the options to atleast decide what is going to be revelation v. what is Aletheia, truth from the end of this reality and this experience where "truth" can function in multiple realms, in multiple contrasting ways. Note: They dont say all of that in the video, but it mentions 'being receptive! Lol

 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

3 hours ago, glassfire said:

You think the person was you in that state. How do you know they weren't your artificially generated clone from false memories?

Ive talked to dream people about artifical, generated dogs before, in Greek, ο σκύλος, ο σκελος, and talking to them bout these little dog snouts up high hills, And the quality of things, or whethers its mimesis, etc., is taken for granted, such that its like we are getting to the bottom of persons, people and places, and trying to validate atleast one thing, or an agreed upon distance of things like this,

 

[glassfire]

OK, u are a smart guy and I won't try even to use my English-Russian dictionary because I won't get it anyway. So what are your achievements in real life, what is your profession, have you a family? Can you lucid-dream?

Edited 8 hours ago by glassfire

[kavaris]

5 hours ago, glassfire said:

OK, u are a smart guy and I won't try even to use my English-Russian dictionary because I won't get it anyway. So what are your achievements in real life, what is your profession, have you a family? Can you lucid-dream?

I just do language stuff right now. Thats my main focus. Im not able to lucid dream. but im very good at just focusing... So ive actually innovated on several different areas when it comes to dreams.

For example i been trying to tell people how its possible to have the inverse experience, that is, instead of lucid dreaming or astral project., its possible to (accidentally) focus so much, so intently on "the exact moment that you are in", that you dream of "waking up out of your bed". And upon walking up, and walking into the living room, the dream texture, the residual dmt-like / dream-like-foundations, they begin to collapse your experience, pulling said-experience back into a vortex of vibration, such that, at that point, it dawns on you that you are still dreaming.

Then you return to your body (in bed) as this self-realized spirit/vibrating dream figure~Upon which you then wake up.

... *Wake up, as in you come back to normal waking world. I also died in to a similar situation like this, like ive momentarily died. But it was the same thing, this self-realized spirit experience.

I mean, its hard to explain it all still. And for the most part, all my dreams are almost complete arbitrary randomness (outside of this experience iexplained, which is much more rare). And rather than let the randomness start dictating it all, i thought we start trying to atleast make some heads or tails of it. I mean its too early to let that randomness rule everything, and im not sure its doing me any good. I mean i feel like im dyin every morning, in that the randomness lvl is painful, and that strength of them waters is like, its hurting my life, so im looking for how to get a surf board onto these dream waves.

Edited 2 hours ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

I havent figured out how to curb this lvl 100 randomness lvl~these dream waves being the only pillar/means, the only way of expressing just how powerful they are, which only increases w/ time, so its like, iuno how to actually turn the nob down on randomness (kaos). Like the ability to focus doesnt change the layers of randomness underneath of it. And so, the best we can do is set down a surf board and try to land in a place where your "focusing intention" becomes something you are doing *literally whilst in a dream.

Granted, the moment you start dissolving/deconstructing a dream is the moment you are to then wake up. I personally just set down the surf board, in the sense that i dont know wat to do beyond taking a metaphorical backpack w/, And preparing to have waves of dream control everything. I mean the moments right before falling asleep are most important, but i spend the whole day, 24-7 focusing on things, And at some point, those layers are taken for granted, and you dont experience the same easy dreaming experiences, but instead a more complex layering of waves, waves that have healing ability, and waves that also have total erase/replace, wash-away ability/affinity.

Edited 2 hours ago by kavaris