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5-MeO-DMT dosing question after multiple low-dose attempts

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I’m looking for grounded input on dosing with 5-MeO-DMT.

I’ve had about seven prior experiences, all in what I’d call “handshake” territory. Each time was intentionally kept low to build familiarity, but in hindsight they were likely too low to move into anything deeper or fully immersive because the ego was left intact. (It was also kept low because I had no real reliable way to control the dose). (When I think back to the experiences that I did have, I remember the love being overwhelming as fuck, where the love is traumatizing. It's clear that YOU will not survive the love of God. It will kill you.) 

One thing I’m recognizing is that with 5-MeO specifically, you actually want to dose high enough to let yourself experience a full ego dissolution, rather than dosing too low and staying in that purgatory ego-fear/hellmode threshold state.

At the same time, I also want to be very clear about the psychological side of that. On a dose like this, I realize you still have to be willing to accept death. You have to be willing to open yourself up to the experience: fully letting go of control and identity; surrendering. It seems like if that willingness isn’t there, the ego dissolution will not take place, and you'll be in for a world of pain.

(There’s also one more thing to note around the route of administration. Ideally, for this kind of work, (consciousness work), the route that’s often pointed to is plugging, to allow for a longer time to linger in that space, supposedly. But with that being said, there still seems to be significant benefits even from being in a temporary state of non-duality from a regular dose of 5-MeO-DMT smoked. It needs to be recognized that smoking a breakthrough dose of 5-MeO-DMT (probably) will make a radical impact on you and your life. 

So I’m trying to understand how to think about this properly:

What dose should one take?

10mg? or 15 to 20mg? because that's what my 5MeO buddies say is "Reliable breakthrough territory." (17mg)

In Leo's lecture, 10mg is a starter dose. What if I jumped straight to 17mg? 

Notes from his lecture:

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Freebase Version (Smoking it) Lower dosages. 

10mg starter dose

15mg average dose

20mg high dose

25mg is probably the most you should ever do

Anything above 25mg is overkill and can create health risks. Below 25 mg should not induce any health risks if you are a normal healthy individual, not on medication, not mixing it with alcohol and other stuff. 

How do people navigate increasing the dose without overcorrecting into unnecessary risk? (Considering that bumping up the dose in mg is in orders of magnitude relative to the experience.) 

What are the main risks when moving from repeated low doses into a significantly higher range?

How do you realistically assess readiness, both psychologically and in terms of environment and support?

I’m not approaching this casually. Set, setting, and having a sober sitter are already part of the plan. I’m mainly trying to sanity-check the reasoning around dose selection, route, and mindset going into it.

I appreciate thoughtful input from people who’ve worked through a similar progression.

 

 

(ChatGPT-assisted post) .


I see the light of God within you.

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