Solipsism extreme

[Cornelia Watford]

4 minutes ago, Yeah Yeah said:

@Mellowmarsh  So you’re saying an infinite consciousness—something with literally endless possibilities, infinite variations of experience, infinite ways to refine and explore reality—would somehow get bored and choose to limit itself to this?

To become a finite, constrained human—trapped in a body it didn’t design, a personality it didn’t choose, in a system built around survival, money, and repetition?

To live as one of billions—interchangeable, disposable, aging, limited, and bound by biology?
That doesn’t make sense to me.

Because if something is truly infinite, it wouldn’t just “run out” of things to experience. It wouldn’t hit a ceiling and go, “well, guess I’ll be a struggling human now.”

An actually infinite consciousness could:
expand into entirely new dimensions of experience generate completely new forms of reality twist, evolve, and reconfigure existence itself create endlessly novel states, narratives, and sensations. There would always be another horizon. Another layer. Another possibility.
Infinity doesn’t get bored—because boredom implies limits.

So the idea that something infinite would collapse itself into a narrow, restrictive, often painful human life—and call that “growth” or “chosen”—doesn’t feel convincing.

It doesn’t feel like expansion. It feels like confinement. And from inside this experience, calling it “chosen” sounds less like truth and more like a way to justify something that feels imposed.

My theory is, there are multiple sources. We are each an infinite source. We make ourselves smaller in order to coexist. We follow rules. Like the laws of physics. Because we want to be around other beings. We don’t want to be alone in our private infinities. 
 

That means that all of us, collectively, “control” the universe. Imagine what we could all do if we worked together. We can rewrite the rules. 

[Yeah Yeah]

@Mellowmarsh

So the answer is basically: “You chose this. It’s for growth. Be more loving.”

I don’t buy that at all. If this is supposed to be some kind of spiritual lesson, then it’s a pretty poor one. Because what this life has actually taught me isn’t love, growth, or refinement—it’s frustration, resentment, and a constant sense of being forced into something I never chose.

I didn’t choose my body. I didn’t choose my personality. I didn’t choose my circumstances. I didn’t choose to be dropped into a system where survival, money, and repetition dictate everything. And yet I’m supposed to believe this is all some meaningful curriculum?

People say challenges exist to make you more loving. But that assumes the outcome is guaranteed. It isn’t. For some people, it just creates the opposite—disconnection, anger, and rejection of the entire setup. So no, I don’t see this as “growth.” I see it as being placed into a constrained, often unpleasant experience and then being told to adapt to it and call that meaning.

And when I look around, it doesn’t feel like some refined spiritual environment either. It feels like billions of people running the same loops—working, aging, surviving—largely interchangeable within the system they’re part of. That’s not a judgment of individuals as much as it is a criticism of the structure itself.

So when people say, “You chose this life,” or “this is for your evolution,” it doesn’t land. It doesn’t feel like expansion. It feels like limitation being reframed as purpose.

Edited April 22 by Yeah Yeah

[Cornelia Watford]

3 minutes ago, Yeah Yeah said:

@Mellowmarsh

So the answer is basically: “You chose this. It’s for growth. Be more loving.”

I don’t buy that at all. If this is supposed to be some kind of spiritual lesson, then it’s a pretty poor one. Because what this life has actually taught me isn’t love, growth, or refinement—it’s frustration, resentment, and a constant sense of being forced into something I never chose.

I didn’t choose my body. I didn’t choose my personality. I didn’t choose my circumstances. I didn’t choose to be dropped into a system where survival, money, and repetition dictate everything. And yet I’m supposed to believe this is all some meaningful curriculum?

People say challenges exist to make you more loving. But that assumes the outcome is guaranteed. It isn’t. For some people, it just creates the opposite—disconnection, anger, and rejection of the entire setup. So no, I don’t see this as “growth.” I see it as being placed into a constrained, often unpleasant experience and then being told to adapt to it and call that meaning.

And when I look around, it doesn’t feel like some refined spiritual environment either. It feels like billions of people running the same loops—working, aging, surviving—largely interchangeable within the system they’re part of. That’s not a judgment of individuals as much as it is a criticism of the structure itself.

So when people say, “You chose this life,” or “this is for your evolution,” it doesn’t land. It doesn’t feel like expansion. It feels like limitation being reframed as purpose.

I agree 1000000%. We try to justify the past, but instead we can take control of our future. We are a bunch of children figuring reality out together. We’re peers. We’re not learning lessons, we’re just existing and making sense of it in hindsight. We’re all equally trapped here together forever. We need to change the future :c

[Willy Phallicus]

55 minutes ago, Yeah Yeah said:

 So you’re saying an infinite consciousness—something with literally endless possibilities, infinite variations of experience, infinite ways to refine and explore reality—would somehow get bored and choose to limit itself to this?

The immortal yearns for death, yes.

[Yeah Yeah]

@Willy Phallicus  

So you’re saying God—an infinite consciousness with literally limitless creative power—would want to be dead?

Why would something that can instantly imagine and manifest anything—entire galaxies, mythic worlds, perfect romances, endless sensory and artistic experiences beyond human comprehension—ever crave non-existence?

An infinite being wouldn’t “run out” of experience. It could constantly expand—new dimensions, new forms of reality, new narratives, new sensations. There would always be another horizon, another layer, another possibility.

You’re talking about something that could create: palaces, planets, advanced civilizations, erotic paradises, cinematic lifetimes, high-tech realities, mythological archetypes—endless variations of existence, forever.

And yet you’re saying that with all of that, it would choose to stop existing?

That doesn’t make sense to me - You're not strong  in this regard of heavy weight philosopher, more of a time waster. Wrong corner of the internet, maybe open a Minecraft server instead. 

Edited April 22 by Yeah Yeah