Ski'ntific Pontific Pontic Steps

[kavaris]

Rather than going over any one scientific or metaphysic, or magical type thing, why dont we ask about the *question, questioning, or the preconditions to "a thing", required. because its not until we find ourselves walking a path that we may begin to understand what path we want to be on thereafter, let alone what & why we are on that path... And this video is sortve the extension on that, leading into a more complete idea around the myst., or the incomprehendable questions & preconditions

This video begins from the notion of the "question", and the conditions towards theurgia. And rather than explain theurgia, which i certainly could (and may consider doing) leaving yous w/ 5 paragraphs all on it, i simply want to let yous uncover it on your own~Theurgy, which is layers of layers of layers~likely even beyond those who think they know what it is, as these things are basically a long story

 

Edited 12 hours ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

No one understands whats goin on when it comes to like, just the bare basics of nature & progress and its relationship to ethics, history, magick, etc (which are just a few of the things that use to be tightly interwoven) because like we arent seeing how far weve come, both for the bad and the better. Some areas we are progessing in society, some areas we are going backwards..

some of this isnt about studying history or science, philo., not directly... As its like *growing a seed or a flower from seed...

That is, if you arent growing from a  perspective that is producing the right plants fromthe right seeds... then wat do you have, right? Like, some of this stuff is actually about that initial artistry and acknowledgement... which is hard to really explain... but assuming you do get what im tryina say, it is that musical~poetic beginning that shapes the seed and plants.. And the consequences of that lead to "the necessary enthusiasm for a thing" -kindve thing... Like, im explaining it poorly, but its something like that...

Like that is what it all *leads up to, per the individual, which all depends on these seeds of understanding in the realm of art or music or poetry, but its not to dismiss the mystical, or the religious or the philosophical... Its just that its like, weve separated these things as if to *add something to them, and in doing so, weve pushed things to the side to say, "this isnt real" or "this is made up, but science is real... THATS real". Like thats not how you do science. Thats not how one defines "real". We havent even begun to do science or understand *real. Science was originally based in art & music, as well as the mystical, much like language.

Language was purely magical at one point in time, a way to practice divination, and was used identically for this reason in every culture. Like, we lise who we are when we fall into a closed minded systemthat only acknowledges things for what they are... Nevertheless, you can see who the innovators, though you have to go to Ancient Greece for this, to see how these thinkers are shaping things, and how important Mythology/Philosophy is to this, cause its another unseperable and intimately close-knit aspect...

Like, Protagoras for example (Not Pythagoras, granted i like Pythagoras too) who came a century or so before Plato... "Man is the measure of all things". Like, hes tryina express how unique our opinions and perspectives are~that they are a factor in this equation, an aspect that cannot be separated and taken for granted, cause you cant just say "What the nature of everything is, what reality is..." You need to consider that thats coming from one particular mind or framework, and thats a huge factor.

I wrote this thing recently, specifically on this subject of like, how we dont always know when an idea has gone from the "feeling space" to a place that "makes sense" or "is real" (putting aside that we might have to study what "real is" atleast in its most temporary degree~towards what we can even mean when we say *real.. ergo other terms like ~comprehensive~ might be a better temporary term to put in its place), and now, yous can tell me if you understand what im tryina say here, and if it makes sense to yous:

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That is to say, You go beyond feeling by *extending the surface level situation, explaining things holistically, OR adding to it the qualities or actions or ideas necessary to bridge it out of that "feeling space". Its not until we do this that our explanations may segue towards their own identity, that which might conclude part of the *present puzzle or subjects within our own contemplations, or at the very least, the way others are viewing those contemplations.

Granted, this is like 0.0000001% of stuff im still workin on, but you sortve start to see like, how intricate everything is, and how many threads you have the opportunity to pull apart and explore/explain...

p.s. Someone showed me the Abbas the Alchemist channel a month or so ago, nd hes got some interesting & well thought out stuff... granted, his videos are often short and sweet... but i bet i could find yous hella crazy resources, book lists, vids., etc., like i have so much stuff and im tryina figure out how to weed through all this atm... Someone like G. W. F. Hegel (1770-1830) was someone who was saying the same sortve thing, And again, there are Ancient Greeks saying this stuff, from a framework thats unrecognizable~but just as much rich, replete w/ fecundity...

Edited 2 hours ago by kavaris