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Attachment: you are attached to things and objects and forms and persons and places . You experience an orgasm but you are so attached to it ..you don’t want it to end . You see a beautiful sunset or beautiful sky or beautiful lady but you want to keep looking at it forever..you can’t let it go . Therefore you suffer by necessity because it has to go. To be free of everything you have to be not attached to anything. You say”but this is difficult..there is so much beautiful things in the world” Yes but everything has to go whether you like it or not because everything is impermanent. I was looking at a certain beautiful thing and was crying because it’s too beautiful and my eyes enjoyed it but also because I thought to myself  I don’t want to look away..I want this beautiful form to exist inside my awareness forever . But this leads to suffering and disappointment because of impermanence. The beautiful object must disappear. I can’t look at it forever. But why is this difficult?  You have nothing to attach yourself to . Because you are going to go to sleep and say goodbye to the farmed world temporarily and you are going to die and say goodbye to the formed world permanently (at least this specific world).

abundance and manifestation: you want lots of things . Nobody enjoys poverty or lack . You want to live in a palace and eat the tastiest foods in the world and have an attractive romantic partner. But you think these things are not already yours or out of your reach or out of your capacity . But you are abundant. You literally have everything you want . You literally own the entire existence. You want a palace ? Well think about all the palaces in the world ..you created them from scratch . You want a paradise full of mansions and palm trees and grapes? You literally created all these heavens in this world or in AI created animations or in your dreams. You want to date that attractive OF and Instagram model? She is yours forever .you literally created her from nothing . You are the source of creation . You created everything. You own everything. This is called heaven consciousness. Obviously though you appear to be limited right now . You have two hands ..not three. You don’t have wings to fly . You don’t have a million dollars. That’s just because to experience unlimited goodness and abundance you have to experience limitedness . I assure you .. if you lived in a paradise of your own creation .. after a hundred years there ..you will consciously choose to exit it and limit yourself.

Knowing who you are and who you are not: your true ultimate state and nature is pure empty void. Think of yourself before you were born in a body ..think of deep sleep . That is the ultimate condition of existence. The forms come and go as superimpositions on that emptiness.

observe impermanence in real time . Play your favorite song . It begins and it ends . All forms arise and go. Things come and go. You suffer because you don’t want things to come and go. But things must come and go. The only thing that doesn’t come and go is nothing .

 

share your thoughts or questions please.


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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On 4/1/2026 at 2:45 AM, Someone here said:

The beautiful object must disappear. I can’t look at it forever. But why is this difficult?  You have nothing to attach yourself to .

Because you too are beautiful, in like manner.  And because you too are eternal, in the same way the beauty is eternal.

There's one supernal attachment which is the foundation of the material world:  Self << reflecting >> self.    The experience described is participating in it.  That's why it's difficult.

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2 hours ago, Ziran said:

Because you too are beautiful, in like manner.  And because you too are eternal, in the same way the beauty is eternal.

There's one supernal attachment which is the foundation of the material world:  Self << reflecting >> self.    The experience described is participating in it.  That's why it's difficult.

But we understand intellectually at least that everything is impermanent as I mentioned unlike another animals and species we are aware of our own mortality . That’s why I answered the question why it’s difficult to let go of attachment towards things by shedding light upon the transience and impermanence of all forms.


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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9 hours ago, Someone here said:

it’s difficult to let go of attachment towards things by shedding light upon the transience and impermanence of all forms.

It's difficult in spite of the realization of transience and impermanence?

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8 hours ago, Ziran said:

It's difficult in spite of the realization of transience and impermanence?

Yes. Obviously you realize that all forms are transient and impermanent? Yet you are still attached to x . 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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10 hours ago, Someone here said:

Yes. Obviously you realize that all forms are transient and impermanent? Yet you are still attached to x . 

Then, it's reasonable to conclude transience ( or not ) is irrelevant in this case, right?  

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6 minutes ago, Ziran said:

Then, it's reasonable to conclude transience ( or not ) is irrelevant in this case, right?  

It is for ignorant people.. unless you wise up and conclude that it isn’t in the transient forms where you find serenity .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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47 minutes ago, Someone here said:

it isn’t in the transient forms where you find serenity .

If so then either: the beauty described in the OP is not a transient form, or, the observer is not engaging in serenity? 

ETA:  ... or a blending of both.

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Just now, Ziran said:

If so then either: the beauty described in the OP is not a transient form, or, the observer is not engaging in serenity? 
 

yes . I literally was blown away by the beauty I was witnessing with my eyes to the point tears started falling off for TWO reasons which are mentioned in OP:

1-the beauty is unbelievable.

2- I thought to myself that I want to stay in this state forever. I want to freeze this moment forever yet I was observing time passing through my consciousness and me feeling like the enjoyment is disappearing .

so I wrote that if we attach ourselves to beautiful forms we suffer by nessecity. Because no matter how beautiful it is .. it has to go and end . Hence attachment is stupidity .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

yes . I literally was blown away by the beauty I was witnessing with my eyes to the point tears started falling off for TWO reasons which are mentioned in OP:

1-the beauty is unbelievable.

2- I thought to myself that I want to stay in this state forever. I want to freeze this moment forever yet I was observing time passing through my consciousness and me feeling like the enjoyment is disappearing .

so I wrote that if we attach ourselves to beautiful forms we suffer by nessecity. Because no matter how beautiful it is .. it has to go and end . Hence attachment is stupidity .

Why does it have to end?

I'm sorry if it sounds like a stupid question.

I don't see it ending at all.  The "unbelievable" just keeps going... 

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2 minutes ago, Ziran said:

Why does it have to end?

I'm sorry if it sounds like a stupid question.

I don't see it ending at all.  The "unbelievable" just keeps going... 

Well good luck locking down a beautiful moment of time ? And even if you did it would lose its beauty and collapse.

 The only reason you enjoy that piece of dessert is because you don’t eat it everyday.


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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49 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Well good luck locking down a beautiful moment of time ? And even if you did it would lose its beauty and collapse.

 The only reason you enjoy that piece of dessert is because you don’t eat it everyday.

Maybe so, maybe not.  I can't comment on anyone's experience other than my own.  

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55 minutes ago, Someone here said:

locking down a beautiful moment of time ?

the truth emerging from the beauty is eternal?

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19 minutes ago, Ziran said:

the truth emerging from the beauty is eternal?

I don’t understand the question.


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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1 hour ago, Someone here said:

I don’t understand the question.

If transience is irrelevant, then what is the root of the attachment?   Maybe it's a manifestation of "Self <<>> self" ?  Maybe it's attachment to "truth" manifesting as "beauty"?  Or, maybe, a confluence of these and others?

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26 minutes ago, Ziran said:

what is the root of the attachment?

Blind life force . What did  Schopenhauer call it ? It’s an unconscious survival force . I say unconscious because just one ounce of consciousness and you know that your body is gonna die in few years so why bother ? But it doesn’t work like that because it’s not runned by logic .nobody cares you just want to eat and fuck .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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