The epistemic Error that is turning your Dating Life into Hell

[Cred]

I was inspired by a post from@Alexop (it's called My recent “philosophical enlightenment") to write this, and I think it is such an important point that I wanted to post it here in a separate thread.

In his original post, Alex made a point similar to that one blog post from Leo, that men and women can never satisfy each other because of the conflicting nature of masculinity and femininity.

 

Damn, I've got A LOT to say about this post. 

You had a lot of good insights, but you came to a lot of wrong and harmful (for yourself) conclusions. It should be noted that the only reason why I have insights that you don't have is because I invented a model that led me to have these insights, so it's not your fault.

You are completely right that there are biologically truth sensitive people (Asemionics). But I want to caution you when you throw in "masculine", "feminine" and "woke" into the mix too carelessly. All three are modes of being too, but I avoid masculine, feminine (as of right now) since I find it dangerous that it implies a root in biological sex which is important to separate, not for political reasons but for epistemic reasons. This is what woke is in its purest form: A powerful epistemic practice.

When you say "the man is supposed to be the truth seeker and the woman is the chatty one, therefore we will never truly understand each other but at least we are completing each other" what you are saying has truth to it, but it does not have epistemic integrity since you confuse biological sex with different modes of existence.

Here is the massive epistemic error that is causing you and so much other people on this forum so much pain and alienation when it comes to dating:

The reason why you think that all girls are the chatty shallow types (semionics: Symbol, social, gestures, implicit information, small-talk, identity, ideology etc. -sensitive) is because they socialize orders of magnitude more than the truth seeking girls (Asemionics). So when you are socializing with a girl, the likelyhood of her being semionic is super high, but not because all girls are semionic, but because they are the ones who like to meet new people. Your error and suffering simply stems from survivorship bias.

There totally exist girls who are interested in truth like you and getting them to like you authentically is so easy that it's painful once you've experienced it.

The hard part about dating a fellow asemionic is not getting them interested, but actually finding them in the first place, since they feel the same way as you:

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I lost interest in socialization. I mean I don’t even care about making friends, and it feels good.

Once you know how to find them, dating becomes a walk in the park. I've once been approached by a gorgeous tall girl with beautiful platinum blonde hair who said something like: "I'm autistic and new to socializing and I kinda used to only spend time with animals". I thought she was so adorable and relatable.

Here is a big truth pill that might be very hard to swallow for you: Asemionic girls tend to hang out in stage green communities.

Here, it is very important to differentiate semionic wokeness (woke ideology, political correctness people) and asemionic wokeness (epistemic wokeness). (I'm totally encouraging you not to date semionic woke people, but It is handy to accept them and to socialize with them anyway since they usually have some asemionic friends that you will want to meet.)

As and example, If you see someone who is struggling with gender identity (pronouns and stuff) it is usually a dead givaway that they are asemionic, and you should approach if you think they are cute. I'm currently texting with someone who is, but I'm happy since they are cute and read Heidegger. 

When people struggle with gender identity, it's not because they are brainwashed or ideological or whatever. The exact opposite is true. They only have the ability to struggle with gender identity because they can see through the respective social constructs. Also, since these people are truth sensitive, they are way more open to being challenged than you think. Note that not everyone who is asemionic struggles with gender identity, of course.

Edited 16 hours ago by Cred

[Alexop]

9 hours ago, Cred said:

 

Here is the massive epistemic error that is causing you and so much other people on this forum so much pain and alienation when it comes to dating:

The reason why you think that all girls are the chatty shallow types (semionics: Symbol, social, gestures, implicit information, small-talk, identity, ideology etc. -sensitive) is because they socialize orders of magnitude more than the truth seeking girls (Asemionics). So when you are socializing with a girl, the likelyhood of her being semionic is super high, but not because all girls are semionic, but because they are the ones who like to meet new people. Your error and suffering simply stems from survivorship bias.

 

I did not say that. That is your interpretation of my post. Most people, like 99.5%, men and women are not interested in Truth based on my standards. These people who spin up shit in philosophy circles do survival not truth seeking.

Women tend to be more intuitive and trust their feelings. Men use logic as a compass, women use intuition/feelings in general. Now of course you'll meet some very intelligent women who will be able to swing form their masculine side to their feminine side and they seem that they break all these generalizations. But what is the chance to meet one?? Hell, what is the chance to meet such a guy either? And some guys say that women who are so much in their masculine side, in their conceptual/abstract/figuring out side, are less attractive. And I can understand that, because they bascially behave like a man. But I don't fully hold that statement until it will happen to me personally.

Truth seeking is done alone, people in groups do survival. Show me a group of people/organization who does not do survival. If you get involved with other people, I recommend to not expect them to do truth seeking. This forum is maybe the most uncorrupt community in the world, this is very unique and is due to Leo's huge efforts to keep it as least corrupt as possible. And still, you see lots of cheap chatting and shit here also. And talking about truth is not the same with seeking truth.

Edited 7 hours ago by Alexop