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The fear of non-existence-video

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He is expressing everything I think about in midnight.  I'm past the point of endlessly and aimlessly wondering about such things..primarily because it's pointless and "whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen "..but still from time to time I talk to myself about these things .

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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I watched this and a lot of it resonated with me, but there was one particular thing that the old man said that really resonated: He said that, "I often ask myself, what is the point of it all?". This really hit me! This is coming from a man that is no different from myself, that has spent his life searching for the truth, at in his blessed aged twilight, he's still in an state of ignorance. 

This is our state, this is the state for the majority of us, we are born ignorant and we die ignorant, and to the best of what we know, all of our [conceptualized] endeavours, self-righteous fights, rebellions  and passions, eventually amounted to nothing.

I don't want to sound pessimistic, but that is the state for the vast majority of us. 

Then i ask myself, why is that so bad? What is wrong with living in ignorance? What is it in me that says that I need to fulfilled, and that fulfilment is my need 'that gives meaning to my (otherwise futile and wasteful) life?'

 

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@CosmicTrekker hi . The question whats the point of it all is actually easy to answer if you really think it through .the young guy have answered it...the old man as well ..there is obviously no fixed point that "should " be achieved. Like you make a to do list or you don't. You get to decide the point of your life according to your own intuition and life experience up to this point in your journey. And if you choose to not have a point that is also fine .a purpose to life is NOT found out there in the objective world ..it is a subjective thing  varying from one person to another . Another thing is life is working automatically.. the digestive system digests food then you release waste and it gets recycled etc. Your body dies then it turns into nutrients in the soil..plants grow ..animal eats it..a lion eats the animal ..a human eats these animals ..then reproduce..then you are born again .and so on .there is no purpose of life that you have to discover and stick to .the purpose of life is already happening by itself and there is quite literally no way you can stop it from happening. Yes I do believe in determinism.

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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9 minutes ago, Someone here said:

life is working automatically.. the digestive system digests food then you release waste

Thank you. That is exactly my point too, apologies if I was being cryptic, I was trying to convey in essence, that perspectives and points of view ultimately don't matter, because that which is unfolding is already what it is. We can argue whether it's the right or wrong thing that's unfolding, but that itself is the trap, because as soon as you take a position of any sort, then you're cut-off from that which 'is', which then 'IS' the illusory 'YOU' that is then pondering these things. 

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13 minutes ago, CosmicTrekker said:

Thank you. That is exactly my point too, apologies if I was being cryptic, I was trying to convey in essence, that perspectives and points of view ultimately don't matter, because that which is unfolding is already what it is. We can argue whether it's the right or wrong thing that's unfolding, but that itself is the trap, because as soon as you take a position of any sort, then you're cut-off from that which 'is', which then 'IS' the illusory 'YOU' that is then pondering these things. 

Yes exactly.  Good way of putting it . I thought you said you were pondering that question even though you've spent your whole life cracking your head over impossible existential questions but you're still in square one .sorry if I misunderstood. But yeah I think both my most recent answer which you agreed with is the only answer that actually make some sense .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I thought you said you were pondering that question even though you've spent your whole life cracking your head over impossible existential questions but you're still in square one

This is also true, sadly :) 
'I'm' in that twilight zone. Neither aspect makes sense and now I'm just trying to let go of making any sense. I hope that this dilly dallying comes to an end soon, and if not then at least the one caring comes to an end. 

That Zen qoan: if a tree falling in the forest - whether it makes a noise or not - is seemingly apt in this state of affairs. Whether it makes a noise or not, or whether there's someone there or not to hear, it just doesn't matter any more. It is what it is. 

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