Greek Singer, vocalists, music and beyonda

[kavaris]

Startin w/ iulia karapataki, im gettin yous into real earthy, talent and music out in the

world. Now of course i picked the like, folky arabicy style folk songs, but the spectrum of music they are doin over there isnt contained to like this dark desert of sound~And its very much crossed into realms that are more recognizable to those into the strict Western scale of music singing and songwriting/composing or interpreting. Yas jus gota look for it.

Edited February 3 by kavaris

[kavaris]

Another more folky one, which btw, if yous are curious, that beat/dance rhythm is called Habanera rhythm in Spanish music. Im still looking for what the Greek equivalent would be, nd ill add to this wen ifind. theres something called asápiko ~ w/ an [h] aspiration before the first /a/, but i dont know what exactly that is, like, im not well versed in these folk/dance tribu, and what the connection is between the rhythmic aspects and the dance/folk element, and i say that cause ive seen so many different dances in Greek and Italian region, and i dont wana pretend like i know whats going on there.

 

Edited February 3 by kavaris

[kavaris]

The Classical Gorge~of music, rhythm & dactyl~or metric units 

This is how you might emphasize rhythm in the terms of the classics (Aristoxenus being one of the main authorities on rhythm), and i believe they take this same idea and apply it in classical Latin. Alas, alls it means is that your ratio (that is, the "ratio of a *base unit"~or the *shortest time value) is describing the initial rhythm/timing, in order to conform to the dotted notes in there. So instead of how we describe music in the modern era where we specify the "type of note" within the rhythm, they would say something like~like if we are supposing this is a rhythm made of one "long", followed by two "dactyl-like" sequences:

Long (—)

Dactyl (— ∪ ∪) (which approximates the dotted note feel)

W/ the following ratio set before hand: 2 : 3 : 3 (if/when  short = 1 unit, long = 2 units, dotted = 3 units)

The ratio math on that would be like this,

Base unit = ∪ = 2 ticks
Long = 4 ticks (twice short)
Dotted = 3 ticks (1.5 × base unit → 3/2 × 2 = 3)

Beat  Sound   Greek notat.  Explanation

1     "Bum"   —             Strong long (floor hit)

2     "KA"    — ∪           Dotted: 1.5 units

3     "Keh"   — ∪           Dotted: 1.5 units

4     silent  ∪ (opt.)      Fills out measure

I thought yous might want that, because its like the basis behind all music and how to think about it from the classical/mathematical perspective, and it underlays all of the musical aspects, once they start being added to the picture. 

Edited February 3 by kavaris

[kavaris]

Let me jus finish out the rest of Iulia Kara Patakii's stuff~as far as the ones ive listened to that i feel are like part of the..

same sortve like, flow/feel.. I know im missing one, but i cant remember at this very minute (jus woke up)

Edited February 4 by kavaris

[kavaris]

On 2/2/2026 at 10:15 PM, kavaris said:

The Classical Gorge~of music, rhythm & dactyl~or metric units 

This is how you might emphasize rhythm in the terms of the classics (Aristoxenus being one of the main authorities on rhythm), and i believe they take this same idea and apply it in classical Latin. Alas, alls it means is that your ratio (that is, the "ratio of a *base unit"~or the *shortest time value) is describing the initial rhythm/timing, in order to conform to the dotted notes in there. So instead of how we describe music in the modern era where we specify the "type of note" within the rhythm, they would say something like~like if we are supposing this is a rhythm made of one "long", followed by two "dactyl-like" sequences:

Long (—)

Dactyl (— ∪ ∪) (which approximates the dotted note feel)

W/ the following ratio set before hand: 2 : 3 : 3 (if/when  short = 1 unit, long = 2 units, dotted = 3 units)

The ratio math on that would be like this,

Base unit = ∪ = 2 ticks
Long = 4 ticks (twice short)
Dotted = 3 ticks (1.5 × base unit → 3/2 × 2 = 3)

Beat  Sound   Greek notat.  Explanation

1     "Bum"   —             Strong long (floor hit)

2     "KA"    — ∪           Dotted: 1.5 units

3     "Keh"   — ∪           Dotted: 1.5 units

4     silent  ∪ (opt.)      Fills out measure

I thought yous might want that, because its like the basis behind all music and how to think about it from the classical/mathematical perspective, and it underlays all of the musical aspects, once they start being added to the picture. 

Im quoting this  As i thought, i should add something interesting, to provoke some things that may/could go (or inspire) others to find other things that are also interesting on music (*in general) or Greek music/rhythm, et caetera.

Plato is actually known for being the first (that is, text assoc. w/, or if he wasnt the first, it was someone around his time) that are first to have referred to the modes. That is, he didnt mention all seven of them (the basic modes of music) but he did list like... iuno it mightve been 4-5 of them (he left out Iionian as well i believe, as that comes later on~if i recall correctly, as its often talked about in regards to the moods, qualities and emotions they invoke as well):

Ionian, Aeolian, Dorian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Locrian & Phrygian (And i think he left out Locrian and Phrygian, or something like that)

I just thought theres something interesting there, and also, how it goes back farther, seeing as he is pulling from other music theorists, or works that he had either read or heard about. Just in general, commentators on previous Greek works are always saying things that are quite surprising, and theres many works weve not yet translated out there~Just to demonstrate how much Greek there is out there, among the thousands that we do have.

Edited 2 hours ago by kavaris