the ego is powerless

[Someone here]

Try to appreciate that you as an ego is really not in the driving seat of your life . There Is something bigger than you as a human going on here . 

How do you breathe ? You don't.  It just happens . Sure you can consciously take a breath and let it go with whatever pace you want ..but how about when you are sleeping? How are you breathing when you are asleep?  How is your body breathing when "you" are completely absent and out of the equation?  See what I'm saying ?

You don't even guarantee your breath. Can you guarantee taking a sip of water without choking and dying ? No you can't.  You are under the mercy of some water pouring down the wrong pipe. So who you think you are ? Why are you arrogant? Why are you evil ?why are you delusional? These are some things I would write if I was a prophet in any holybook. 

This is inspired also by any obvious reflection . But also from reading Robert Adams. 

Edited yesterday at 08:50 AM by Someone here

[Someone here]

Ego is what religion call devil or satan. Why so ? Because that's the source of all evil .its you the ego or the false self .

Try to see other people as not people but like how you see a current of water or a tornado or a fart coming out of your arse .it's just happening. Stop judging people. Stop thinking there is evil guys out there .just realize you are the evil .

[Malkom]

It's not you who live life; it's life itself that's lived through you. The ego seeks comfort, your soul seeks truth... And its highest goal is self-realization, and only your "soul" knows what that is. And there's no uniform advice or ultimate answers. What does this mean? Nothing, haha.

[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, Malkom said:

It's not you who live life; it's life itself that's lived through you. The ego seeks comfort, your soul seeks truth... And its highest goal is self-realization, and only your "soul" knows what that is. And there's no uniform advice or ultimate answers. What does this mean? Nothing, haha.

You can say something that doesn't mean nothing if you want though. 😂 

I can see what you're saying while at the same time taking all these fabricated distinctions kinda tounge n cheek. 

[Ramasta9]

What if we don't breath and always hold our breath unknowingly, and only breathe when we remember to

Sometimes i breathe, sometimes i breath deeply, sometimes i hold my breath for hours until i remember i need to breathe.

You ever woke up from sleep and just knew you haven't been breathing?

I've tapped into some deep states where even breathing disturbs the inner stillness. 

The ego is your mask unto the world, you need this mask to live in this world, the point is not to dissolve it or kill it, that's outdated and misleading spirituality, rather the point is to pull it in so close that it merges entirely with the true self.

and there you are, SOULfull !

Edited yesterday at 09:23 AM by Ramasta9

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

What if we don't breath and always hold our breath unknowingly, and only breathe when we remember to

Sometimes i breathe, sometimes i breath deeply, sometimes i hold my breath for hours until i remember i need to breathe.

You ever woke up from sleep and just knew you haven't been breathing?

I've tapped into some deep states where even breathing disturbs the inner stillness 

The ego is your mask unto the world, the point is to pull it in so close that it merges entirely with the true self.

and there you are, SOULfull !

Let's just not overthink this because its a little bit a scary notion . Just grasp it and grasp the implications. Thanks for your comment .🙏 

[Malkom]

44 minutes ago, Someone here said:

You can say something that doesn't mean nothing if you want though. 😂

I can see what you're saying while at the same time taking all these fabricated distinctions kinda tounge n cheek.

It's just a model; you had to start somewhere. The less you think about it, the better. You need to take a simpler approach to life.

[Someone here]

1 hour ago, Malkom said:

It's just a model; you had to start somewhere. The less you think about it, the better. You need to take a simpler approach to life.

What is "it " in "its just a model "? My OP?

I'm simply saying something very basic and foundational to anyone who spent two days researching enlightenment and spirituality.  You as an ego or as a human has no say in the matter . It appears as if you are doing the breathing as an example. But just like I said go ahead and guarantee your breathing continuing while sleeping. You can't. Because "you " are not doing it . I'm not trying to scare people with some intrusive thoughts. In the contrary..grasping this is liberation from suffering. Because you can relax and stop judging yourself and others .

Edited yesterday at 11:22 AM by Someone here

[Malkom]

5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

What is "it " in "its just a model "? My OP?

I'm simply saying something very basic and foundational to anyone who spent two days researching enlightenment and spirituality. You as an ego or as a human has no say in the matter . It appears as if you are doing the breathing as an example. But just like I said go ahead and guarantee your breathing continuing while sleeping. You can't. Because "you " are not doing it . I'm not trying to scare people with some intrusive thoughts. In the contrary..grasping this is liberation from suffering. Because you can relax and stop judging yourself and others .

Dude. I don't bother with that kind of nonsense. I couldn't care less about these questions—what is the ego or what is the soul? I wrote "it's just a model" so that there would be an understanding, an entry point to what I want to write about. Don't fill your head with bullshit. 

[Someone here]

@Malkom good so what the fuck are you  exactly trying to say ? You wrote two comments that mean nothing . 

[Malkom]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Malkom good so what the fuck are you exactly trying to say ? You wrote two comments that mean nothing .

"It's just a model, a model of reality, not reality itself."

Apparently, translation difficulties

[Someone here]

Just now, Malkom said:

"It's just a model, a model of reality, not reality itself.

Of course. I understand, Einstein.  Though ..that's completely tangential and unrelated to this specific topic .

[Malkom]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Of course. I understand, Einstein. Though ..that's completely tangential and unrelated to this specific topic .

Okay. Don't interfere with your body's autonomy with your mind; it already knows what to do—how to swallow, how to breathe, how your heart beats... Your autonomic nervous system does that for you. There's no need to take TOTAL CONTROL here. That's pointless.

[Someone here]

11 minutes ago, Malkom said:

Okay. Don't interfere with your body's autonomy with your mind; it already knows what to do—how to swallow, how to breathe, how your heart beats... Your autonomic nervous system does that for you. There's no need to take TOTAL CONTROL here. That's pointless.

Now we are speaking .I'm happy that you bring this up . 

I don't want this thread to die out.. I wanna get a discussion going on here cuz this is some crazy stuff lol....

How is the body movement done? This is not so obviously clear . Another way to realize it.. A very easy way to realize the illusion of choice is to try to stop.. Try to stop all internal and external happenings in what you think your body.. No thoughts no actions no chatter no feeling etc... You can't.. Something must happen.. A thought must arise.. A breath.. A blink of an eye.. A tingle..a fart... Lol if you cannot stop doing what you're doing even when you try all you can to stop it.. Are you really doing it?

Bottom line.. No one is doing anything. Choice is a joke. Everyone is basically just a zombie.  There is no difference between the spontaneous happening of a river flow and the movement of the human body.

You probably: so what dude ?

 Me :This changes how you relate to humans entirely for the rest of your life.

Edited yesterday at 11:50 AM by Someone here

[Malkom]

9 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Now we are speaking .I'm happy that you bring this up .

I don't want this thread to die out.. I wanna get a discussion going on here cuz this is some crazy stuff lol....

How is the body movement done? This is not so obviously clear . Another way to realize it.. A very easy way to realize the illusion of choice is to try to stop.. Try to stop all internal and external happenings in what you think your body.. No thoughts no actions no chatter no feeling etc... You can't.. Something must happen.. A thought must arise.. A breath.. A blink of an eye.. A tingle..a fart... Lol if you cannot stop doing what you're doing even when you try all you can to stop it.. Are you really doing it?

Bottom line.. No one is doing anything. Choice is a joke. Everyone is basically just a zombie. There is no difference between the spontaneous happening of a river flow and the movement of the human body.

You probably: so what dude ?

This changes how you relate to humans entirely for the rest of your lives .

It's not about free will or control over everything. It's about being yourself—that is, you have certain spasms in your mind. So be it, how freely you breathe, how inhaling life itself. Certain emotions or spontaneous, unconscious reactions in your body prevent YOU from manifesting. Not in the sense of becoming a different person, but in the sense of how AUTHENTIC you are. Your ego often blocks this authenticity because you have to play a role. It's impossible to do otherwise, and you shouldn't, because it would be UNNATURAL again.
Even when you're playing a role, like an actor, you don't always have to memorize every movement mechanically and in detail. The main thing is to immerse yourself in the essence, the character, and the movements, facial expressions, voice, body posture, will do what's needed, wiser than you, mind than inventing anything with your mind. "mind" is the ego, and the essence is the "soul."
This, again, is "just a model."
And there is a choice, there is no choice, it's a little different: I do it, or I don't. The main thing is what you feel in the moment.

I hope this translates well.

Edited yesterday at 11:56 AM by Malkom

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, Malkom said:

I hope this translates well

I doesn't. You are talking nonsense. 🫶

Have a nice day pal.

[Malkom]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

I doesn't. You are talking nonsense. 🫶

Have a nice day pal.

I see, you're impenetrable.

[Malkom]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I doesn't. You are talking nonsense. 🫶

Have a nice day pal.

Take amanita muscaria, dude. Instead of watching "cartoons" under psychedelics created by your immature psyche, mistaking them for truth, and pondering pseudo-philosophical nonsense pretending to be profound wisdom, I suspect the mushroom will beat you up.

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Malkom said:

I see, you're impenetrable.

It's not about that . It's not about me .I'm so conscious of my own illusory separate identity. So even if what I express reads like egotism, it is not . 

It's about what's true . You are posting in a forum of spirituality yet..you can't get that you don't exist as an ego or something separate from the totality of life .

What you are saying like "your ego " is just nonsense.  Ego refers to you .how can you have a ego...

Totally ironic ,I get it .but what can be done .

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, Malkom said:

Take amanita muscaria, dude. Instead of watching "cartoons" under psychedelics created by your immature psyche, mistaking them for truth, and pondering pseudo-philosophical nonsense pretending to be profound wisdom, I suspect the mushroom will beat you up.

Meh