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Duality is thinking it is Nonduality.

Duality is knowing you know. And this knowing is always going to be about a knower and what knowing knows. 

I know I know nothing is identical to I know I know everything. When one thing is known, everything is known.

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Socrates have said "I don't know anything except one thing ,which is that I don't know anything ". This is a legendary philosopher so he isn't kidding around .

There is two kinds of knowledge:

1- apparent surface level knowledge. 

2- knowing things in themselves or their true nature or the very isness of what a thing is . 

The first kinds is totally possible and sky is the limit . We know the sun rises in the morning..we know cigarettes cause heart attacks and cancer..we know the observable universe is 14 billion years old etc.

The second kind is absolutely impossible. What is the "thing in itself " as kant called it ? I can assure you that not a single human being ever has the slightest clue .

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

The second kind is absolutely impossible. What is the "thing in itself " as kant called it ? I can assure you that not a single human being ever has the slightest clue .

Probs because a human being is a thing, and things know nothing.

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1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Probs because a human being is a thing, and things know nothing.

This is sophistry not philosophy. You are not saying anything meaningful. You are stringing together a bunch of words to sound like a Zen devil. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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1 minute ago, Someone here said:

This is sophistry not philosophy. You are not saying anything meaningful. You are stringing together a bunch of words to sound like a Zen devil. 

Yeah I know you know that too.

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@Mellowmarsh I don't know anything in the most literal sense of the word . 

You go "you're full of shit. How can you sign in and mentally masturbate? At least you know how to do that "

And the answer is that this is second order knowing. I know how to fry an egg .no idea though what an egg REALLY Is. Please get the distinction. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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1 minute ago, Someone here said:

@Mellowmarsh I don't know anything in the most literal sense of the word . 

You go "you're full of shit. How can you sign in and mentally masturbate? At least you know how to do that "

And the answer is that this is second order knowing. I know how to fry an egg .no idea though what an egg REALLY Is. Please get the distinction. 

I understand. 

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3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I know how to fry an egg .no idea though what an egg REALLY Is. Please get the distinction. 

I know an egg is not a not egg.

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3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Mellowmarsh I don't know anything in the most literal sense of the word . 

You only wish you knew nothing, while flaunting your Ignorance here. You only wish you knew something, while desperately clinging to beliefs such as "we know that the sun rises and cigarettes cause cancer".

Fear the day you actually won't know anything. Far the night you actually learn a thing or two.


 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I know an egg is not a not egg.

Pure sophistry and low quality conversation. 

See ya in the next one 💔. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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Just now, Someone here said:

Pure sophistry and low quality conversation. 

See ya in the next one 💔. 

I understand.

Don't forget to close the door on your way out.

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16 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I know how to fry an egg .no idea though what an egg REALLY Is. Please get the distinction. 

I got it but then you said is was of a low quality conversation.

Would you like me to provide a better quality distinction conversation next time?

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11 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Pure sophistry and low quality conversation. 

And you its source.

 

11 minutes ago, Someone here said:

See ya in the next one 💔. 

Hahaha you wish there was next.


 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I got it but then you said is was of a low quality conversation.

Would you like me to provide a better quality distinction conversation next time?

@Mellowmarsh ask what you want and i can engage you in a serious intellectual conversation and uncover deep truths about knowing and how epistemology works . This is what this forum is about right ? 

Coldness and naive pretence is gay as fuck and I don't want nothing to with that.

If i sense in your posts genuine inquiry I can talk to you till the morning I'm sitting here eating Big Mac and watching Real Madrid football mach and got nothing to do ..I can talk till next morning. If you get cute and cheeky then obviously I must respect myself and ignore you .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 This is what this forum is about right ? 

 

Wrong. It's about erasing you.

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

If i sense in your posts genuine inquiry I can talk to you till the morning I'm sitting here eating Big Mac and watching Real Madrid football mach and got nothing to do ..I can talk till next morning. If you get cute and cheeky then obviously I must respect myself and ignore you .

Cute story. That Big Mac must be full of shit.


 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Someone here said:

@Mellowmarsh ask what you want and i can engage you in a serious intellectual conversation and uncover deep truths about knowing and how epistemology works . This is what this forum is about right ? 

Coldness and naive pretence is gay as fuck and I don't want nothing to with that.

If i sense in your posts genuine inquiry I can talk to you till the morning I'm sitting here eating Big Mac and watching Real Madrid football mach and got nothing to do ..I can talk till next morning. If you get cute and cheeky then obviously I must respect myself and ignore you .

Lets just remind ourselves what we were talking about here. You asked me to get the distinction between knowing how to fry an egg but not knowing what an egg you are frying actually is, exactly. 

I got the distinction and told you I know an egg is not a not egg.

If that distinction is of a low quality conversation, then can you give me any tips on how to make that distinction not of low quality conversation, because you seem to not want to be willing to engage in low quality conversations. Any tips on how I can make my distinction more to your personal preferences, I'm assuming you prefer a hot real egg, and not a cold pretentious egg ? Is that correct?

 

In that case I know a hot real egg is not a cold pretentious egg. Is that okay, or still low quality?

 

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19 minutes ago, Someone here said:

ask what you want and i can engage you in a serious intellectual conversation and uncover deep truths about knowing and how epistemology works .

Well all I can say is that I never wanted a conversation with you personally, and have no intentions of starting one either.

Lets just remind ourselves it was you who who walked into my house uninvited boasting the topic subject is of a low quality conversation.

Bye then, try not to slam the door on your way out. I'll try not to miss you.

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@Mellowmarsh holy shit you are Jane . It all makes perfect sense now.

 

 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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