Failure of Venus Project

[ryoko]

I want to put this out there. For those of you who had your hopes up after knowing about Venus Project.

https://jacque-fresco-edu.net/why-not-the-venus-project

https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/2019/09/13/why-i-left-the-venus-project/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cIkdI7qBQzif7z3yFKKNuYNyw7gKADrzoyPq__Adjhg/edit?tab=t.0

Check out all the hyperlinks on these pages. It's gonna be a long read. 
This is very relevant to the discussion @Bjorn K Holmstrom and I were having in 

 

Edited Tuesday at 03:58 PM by ryoko

[MightyMind]

and the failure of most who encounter the venus project is thinking that it is to be imitated or that it provides all the answers. Instead, it is an example of the orientation, attitude, and approach that is required for us to bring about great change. 

Edited Monday at 12:19 PM by MightyMind

[Ishanga]

The organization itself, TVP may be a failure in bringing about more awareness of what it proposes and getting it to become a Reality! 

But the idea of a Resource Based Economy is a good one, getting rid of money and our present day economic systems, which are not working really, they work up to a point, our standard of living has risen but ppl are still slaves to the dollar and inflation is now killing Us.  I think it peaked decades ago but its not working Now for sure...

One big problem in todays world is that there are too many ideas and promoters floating around, in the end anyone looking for a solution will find it confusing to navigate, which idea or concept to accept, which leader or organization to follow and get involved with??? It causes conflict and identification problems!

The basics are we need to provide for All equally, no one should be homeless, down and out depressed and angry about life, using drugs or whatever to numb themselves when we have the tech and ability to provide for all in basic ways.. Money and exchanging it is outdated, only the power players want it to stay this way, and it will... For sure its going to take time to change the ideologies of this, the power dynamics and such, but do we have the time, I am not so sure about that!!

 

[ryoko]

 

2 hours ago, MightyMind said:

and the failure of most who encounter the venus project is thinking that it is to be imitated or that it provides all the answers. Instead, it is an example of the orientation, attitude, and approach that is required for us to bring about great change. 

Let my intent with sharing this be very clear! 
This is a case study, of the real challenges while attempting something of that magnitude. Just one failed iteration, 1000 more to go. Anyone who says otherwise can get fucked!

[ryoko]

Reminder: Building civilization is a collective responsibility. 
Just as we willingly or unwillingly contribute to the existence of what's currently there, any and all intent for a future will follow the same dynamics. 
There's nothing wrong with doing what you do to survive. I empathize with you, even if you are the CEO of a multi billion corp, or someone who is struggling to get by. There's nothing which separates you in my eyes. Have a good day.