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Why I'm Far-Right (and why I will never change)

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@ryoko

"you missed the whole point. 
guardrails = patch work
better systems = architecture which is "actually" better"

I'm suggesting with the guardrails in place (and more), we wouldn't need better systems for we would have been making them and we would therefore not have the current system we have now. Instead we've been obstructed and manipulated for a long time.  

But I agree, with what is here now and in order to deal with it, patch work won't be sufficient. We should be building a new systems, from the ground up, which are brought about with a consideration of the whole, and from there a new type of wholly government/politic can come. 

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The whole point of implementing guardrails is to see it fail. Sooner the better. 

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1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Anecdotal means real.... do you think native Europeans don't harm women and children? They're safer with immigrants, actually.

@Elliott real, which you are downplaying by saying it's anecdotal. And when you see the amount of it, you might just realize your stats are misleading. 

In some cases you would be correct. But should we throw nuance out the window? For example, would they be safer with Afghani men who like dancing boys? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY3JFEEbB30&t=148s - and this is the point I've been trying to make. There are harsh realities out there and if we are not discerning to what flows into ones country, and the amount of it, the next generation will pay the consequences for our ignorance of the world and it's diversity. 

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@ryoko should you build a new system with no guard rails in place to minimize the potential for corruption? because we live in a world of corrupted humans and to create systems that will raise us above the low level consciousness will require generations, and so with out guard rails built within a new system, you will most likely fall again. 

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the point is, we shouldn't be thinking along the lines of guardrails. That's what religion does. It tries to control people morally. It won't work for long. Human beings evolve beyond it quickly. Whatever have high maintenance, it's bad design. Guardrails by design are a bad design. 

Here's an interesting experiment conducted on AI on maximizing score in a boat racing game. There's different ways to score points; avoiding obstacles, winning the race, etc etc. But the way it found to maximize score is to go straight ahead and hit the immediate obstacle, so it gets point for trying, and the game restarts, this when repeated is able to score points more predictably than winning the game through effort. Corruption is a symptom, of the game. It exists because the game's architecture allows it, no amount of punishment/guardrails/guilt tripping will prevent humans from being corrupted. 

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@ryoko I think you missed the point/context of why I mentioned guard rails. We're more aligned than in disagreement. 

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@ryoko and now I'm questioning what I've said. Feel free to elaborate on this. 

And for those who think this is off topic, to the original post, I'd suggest this is getting to the root of things, and relating to many other posts on this site

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I totally understand your view on guardrails. It's habitual fallback. That's what we are used to in the current times. It's just too absurd to make any sense. But hey, human beings aren't logical creatures, capable of logic, but not the default. Hence my emphasis on better systems. We shouldn't be feeling guilty about participating in mainstream ways of the world. Honestly, capitalism is making it hard for me to meaningfully contribute to the society. I say this with a heavy heart. 

Look for instance, your comment on DEI, you just want to have a prosperous environment in your home, but you're being guilt tripped by the comments. I say both are wrong. Just expand your home to include everyone. There's no other way. 

This logic expands to almost every aspect of our current systems. It perpetuates this suffering for self(whole world) the more we are in denial of certain fundamental realities. 

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@ryoko "I say both are wrong. Just expand your home to include everyone. There's no other way. "

I don't think you realize what comes with that....

That's what many on this site are not getting. It's as if the natural immunity/biological defense has been disarmed. There's a world of forces that will take advantage of your "goodness". Which means locals and foreigners be used like tools, for the footage I'm seeing, this is a paid operation, who's paying for it? Boats of young men, to buses of healthy men, all men. Dressed nicely and a nice cell phone to boot.

"But they're fleeing war!" ??? But where are the women and children? In these instances, none, just all young healthy men roomed up in hotel rooms which is paid for by the public. But don't question it? Naivety kills, and I say this with love

There's a lot footage. We might want to re examine this and make an effort to look. Some of us are trying to warn you of realities we are seeing

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