Someone here

Exploring the spiritual teachings of Robert Adams & Quran

3 posts in this topic

This is a journal for quoting passages from Robert Adams (an American spiritual teacher who died in the 90s) and from the Quran (Islam's holy book ).

I will post a quote here daily (hopefully) and analyze it and try to apply the wisdom in my life .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So ironically these are two different versions of spirituality or spiritual understanding of existence. 

Robert Adams on one hand teaches things as :

  • No self .
  • No inherent meaning or purpose to life .
  • Nothing actually exist .
  • Life is a dream.
  • There is no such thing as God unless you believe you are the human. But in absolute consciousness you are God.

Islam teaches that:

  • There is a self or more accurately a soul . The soul is said to be eternal because it is extracted from the eternal soul of Allah. 
  • Life has a purpose which is worshipping God until you reach the state of heaven-consciousness which is a metaphorical way of saying merging with God. 
  • There is an objective world but only because God is holding it together.

So I'm actually resonating with both of these conflicting views on spirituality. I'm trying to make a bridge between the two .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So is there a self or not?  The answer imo is paradoxical . There is no "separate " self . Meaning there is not an entity into itself which exists independently from "everything else " or " all that there is ".

However the "soul " which is said to be birthless and deathless is deriving its eternal nature from Allah /God.  Which is said to be eternal himself/itself .

So it depends on the definition of self and what do we mean by the word "self " or "soul ".

No self vs The Self .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now