Probabilistic Argument for God Consciousness

[Matty1]

I'll try to keep the tone of this post fairly casual. I'm not trying to provide an iron-clad rigorous argument, it's more just a rough outline of the logic of the argument.

It goes like this. Suppose that the materialist paradigm is correct and that our consciousness arises out of the unique configuration of our brains. Then, the identity of the self falls upon being this specific person that arose out of a chain of causality. That is, first there was the big bang and then that big bang formed stars then new elements then planets etc etc until we got to the formation of DNA and animals etc etc and then to your grandparents meeting and reproducing and then your parents meeting and reproducing etc etc. The point is that this long chain of causality means the odds of you being this one specific person out of the zillions of possible other configurations is pretty much close to zero. But wait; we just posited before that you were this specific person and that your consciousness arose out of this unique configuration of your brain. So that would mean, under the materialist paradigm, that there's a much, much greater chance that you wouldn't exist than you would. So the intuitional leap that most people make with this to cover the gap in the logic is: "Well, I didn't mean I had to be this exact specific human, maybe if I didn't exist as this specific human then I would exist as some other human." However, that implicitly implies that not only can you not tie your identity to this specific human, but that you would HAVE to exist in some way, regardless of the chain of causality that happened to bring you about. You know who else, by definition, is a necessary being (in fact, the only necessary being)? God. Therefore, since you, with this intuitive leap in logic, would say that you would have to exist in some way, that your existence hinges on something outside this long chain of causality, which meets the definition of God. Ergo, you are God. 

 

 

[Someone here]

@Matty1 hi there .

Help me to understand. you're saying since my existence is necessary and God is said to be the necessary being that exists outside of time and space (to explain the existence of the universe vs its absence)..therefore I'm that  God? But you only looked it one dimensionally. From the angle that God is absolute and necessary. What about other qualities attached to God like all powerful and all knowing etc ?

[Matty1]

8 hours ago, Someone here said:

@Matty1 hi there .

Help me to understand. you're saying since my existence is necessary and God is said to be the necessary being that exists outside of time and space (to explain the existence of the universe vs its absence)..therefore I'm that  God? But you only looked it one dimensionally. From the angle that God is absolute and necessary. What about other qualities attached to God like all powerful and all knowing etc ?

One far out there theory that I've explored is that God essentially arises out of a chaotic state of everything and then this supreme being re-organizes that chaos into the universe/multi-verse. So for example, instead of positing that some arbitrary thing exists (like this universe), you instead posit that EVERYTHING that could possibly exists exists. Since God is logically possible to exist, then he exists. Notice that in this case consciousness (what we might call the Soul) naturally arises alongside this being, and since God is all-knowing (again, since he arose from this state of everything) he knows that this consciousness is part of it. So God is simultaneously whole (one such reality, you are that ground of existence) and has parts (the state of power, ominpotence, all-knowingness, etc) mutually arises as part of this Reality. So there is a paradox to be found here. You, as consciousness are a part of God, which is in itself a whole (true infinity). Or at least that's how this theory goes anyway.

 

Contrary to what Leo says, no I don't think you'll literally experience every possible existence in the multiverse. If you did you likely wouldn't be here. It's very likely that God is smart enough to be selective about which experiences it chooses. Although it has the POTENTIAL for all possible existences, it likely only personally explores the coherent/pleasant ones.

Edited April 23 by Matty1