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I want to say that I am not familiar with mental illnesses in any capacity beyond internet meme science, so I am taking Dr K’s expertise at face value. I’m also a man without kids, so I don’t know anything about pregnancy and childbirth. I will loosely summarise the things that stood out to me personally in this discussion and the case in general. Given my background and biases, when I first heard about the case, my initial reaction was, damn, these bishes acting cRaY, she needs to be locked up for life. Which speaks to one of the first major points Dr K brought up. Men and society don’t fully understand how hard pregnancy and the postpartum can truly be for women. For the average woman, pregnancy and childbirth are the highest risk activities she will engage in during her life, and the postpartum period is the highest risk period in her life for developing mental illness. So, there is a fundamental misalignment in gender perspective here that is fuelling a culture war outrage on both sides of this equation. The average man with a newborn child (that he holds so tenderly, preciously and joyfully) can’t fully fathom that there is a reasonably high probability his wife is brooding in the corner with a kitchen knife contemplating ... God knows what. There is also a lot of latent displaced anger towards men from women who have had challenging pregnancies and postpartum periods seeping out in the culture war. The second point that stood out to me was that although mental health awareness has increased in society, mental health ignorance has also increased. People in general (both men and women) don’t know what conditions like psychosis are beyond vague intimations and generalisations. The confusion about support for Lindsay speaks to this, and the discussions about agency, how she preplanned the murder, etc., also speak to this. Dr K’s explanation of psychosis was interesting. From what I could gather, agency and control are maintained; it’s just that the underlying assumptions and beliefs about reality are changed. In the mind of a person with psychosis, planning to kill your kids and then doing it in the afternoon can feel just as innocuous as giving your ass an extra wipe after a messy dump. This is different from conditions like command auditory hallucinations where a person doesn’t maintain a sense of agency and feels they must execute an action against their will. This is where the legal interpretation of the children’s deaths remains open, from what I can gather. The statistics of postpartum psychosis were also interesting. About 3 in 1000 live births will result in postpartum psychosis specifically, so while it’s not common, it’s certainly not unheard of. Of those cases, 5% will result in homicidal ideation, and 6% will result in suicidal ideation. There are about 10,000 live births per day in the USA, so literally every day there are at least a handful of women who experience this exact condition with homocidal connotations, making it completely reasonable that 5000 women would donate money to support her GoFundMe campaign. There is also a disconnect between people intuitive understanding of the consequences of various mental illness diagnoses and physical illnesses. As Dr K said, if you get a cancer diagnosis, it's easy for regular people to grasp that you have an x% chance of dying over a y period of time. If you are diagnosed with postpartum psychosis however, the same intuitive leap to a 11% chance of suicidal/homicidal ideation with the very real possibility of enactment, isn't made by folks. There are also discussions about the failures of the medical system being brought up with regard to the second court case, where Lindsay and her husband are suing her care providers. Objectively, she attended two of the best psychiatric hospitals in the country, saw multiple providers over a long period of time, was delivered an ironclad standard of care, yet this was still the outcome. The support she is getting can also be viewed from the perspective of women showing empathy and sympathy, possibly with respect to their own problematic experiences with the healthcare system over time. 17-minute consult times are too short, the non-centralised electronic health care records making communication between providers difficult, and the fact that she called a suicide hotline twice and that information wasn’t available to her providers are all being brought into this discussion. What is scary for many people (women especially) to consider is that there isn’t really much else she could have done as a regular person to prevent such a tragic outcome, making her support more morally and ethically justifiable to some people. I feel sorry for the dad; I haven’t heard shit from anyone about what he must be going through, just that he’s either defective in some way or even directly responsible. I wouldn't want to absolve him of responsibility, and it raises an interesting question about what exactly a father's role and duties are in a situation like this. I liked Dr K’s description of “women’s intuition” being a potent force to be respected, but only in the sense that it can detect incongruence about situations and shouldn’t be relied upon too heavily for directionality about the source(s) of incongruence. Whatever the outcome of the case, there are clear issues with the healthcare system that need to be cognised by the general public, if not resolved. It is a giant system that’s not going to be changed overnight and does deliver some of the best healthcare humans have ever developed at scale; it just can’t be considered a monolith that will solve every problem perfectly. People need to take more responsibility for their own healthcare and be more deeply involved in understanding their own personal situations and managing them accordingly. Should she be locked up for life? I don’t know. That is for the jury to decide and it seems they are having a hard time doing so. I hope the case won’t inspire sociopathic/psychopathic women to exploit this potential loophole in the future if it turns out she gets sent to a psychiatric institution with the potential to be free again at some point. The true victims are the children, of course and we can't have bishes slaughtering kids out here willy nilly. For reference, Dr K wasn't my sole source for interpreting the case Ana Pych video for a female psychologist's perspective: https://youtu.be/fyBRQURmdO8?si=uc6aezwHw-80Km0V Dr Joseph's video for an international psychiatrist's perspective on drug-induced psychosis: https://youtu.be/WUSH0D9LjSA?si=fpTuYhTfg8KJQZ6y

Cannibalism is part of the human experience, but humans did not evolve to be docile and thus tend to rebel. Consequently most human societies have agreed dating back as far as the Paleolithic era to abstain from cannibalism and even later slavery, except under extreme circumstances. Ethics is not objective; it is the unconscious internalization of power dynamics. Yes we use animals to produce milk, meat, and eggs, but in exchange they live safe lives. We all inhabit a binary, dualistic, and limited world, yet we don't go committing suicide over it. Consuming animal products is ethically positive provided the animals are treated well above a certain standard. A vegan can still make ethically terrible choices, such as being an executive who exploits employees or buying manufactured goods produced under lousy conditions. No cows aren't raped; a rod containing sperm is inserted into the vulva to fertilize them. It takes just a few seconds. It is a constraint yes but so what? Life is full of constraints; does that make reproducing in this world unethical

Building charisma or other self-improvement I am not against. Self-improvement in itself can be used for used for good and bad. I am in favor for self-improvement for good. you can self-improve to become a criminal. You can self-improve to become a good citizen and husband. or you can self-improve to live a Hugh-Hefner type lifestyle. What "women want" is not a linear, rational thing. They want all sorts of things on different levels of their consciousness, some good and some evil. different women will cater more towards one side depending on many factors. In this they are not different from men. I have a side to me that wants to have 100s of women and live like Hugh Hefner, and this probably stems from biological instincts and also egoic traumas of feeling unworthy. But I also have a side that wants to have a marriage and children. My issue is that most men seem to realize this dichotomy and ultimately want marriages and families, but feminist women, both young and old (who are the majority of women in the west), see family as something inherently suspicious, maybe even oppressive, but in the least as something that is a burden to her that weighs down her other options. And we are living in a surface liberal culture that is deeply invested in the worldview of these women. If you tell a woman she is selfish for living out her bad girl/feminist agenda (fucking as many of the richest and hottest dudes while young and then getting the best husband possible and lie about your past), she and society will shun you. But if you tell a man he is selfish for wanting to live a life of debauchery, society and him (most likely) will agree. That is the joke we are living under today. Total gynocentricism. By studying the facts it has become clear to me that this worldview simply leads to the decline and collapse of society. "wanting children" for example is seen as an individual choice and only through the lens of what it brings and costs the individual(especially the woman). Never is it seen as a moral choice affecting the whole of collective society. It is a simple fact that younger people carry the old people's burdens. This used to be in a direct family system where children would literally take care of their parents and grandparents in their old age. Nowadays this is a welfare system; everyone's children take care of everyone's parents. A person who doesn't want children, who is more likely a woman, still wants to be taken care of by the state when she is old, effectively saying that someone else's children should take care of her. With the fertility rate at an abysmal level, this cannot hold. The only solution is migration, which we are seeing at a rapid rate here in Europe. European people are not having children and are replacing them with young migrant workers. I don't care about you choosing a life of chasing a multitude of women that much. Even though you're basically incentivizing those harlots to continue in their evil and doing evil yourself. I am not above it. I contemplate suicide every day because I can't get with women because of various acquired medical issues. In one way I would tell you to "live your best life", although I do realize I wouldn't be better than those harlots myself, who cheer on their fellow women in their 20s to ride the carousel, dishonor themselves and destroy society one bit at a time. And I'm not better. If I had the chance to be promiscuous I probably would be. Yet again, this is also incentivized by women's modern freedoms and their ways of handling it. Choosing to be monogamous when you see other women be hypergamous and polyamorous is a much harder choice to make than a society of chaste people. My problem with your rhetoric is that you are framing it through the lens that there is no consequence, that you should just chase your dreams no matter what. This is precisely the gynocentric, anti-truth, self-biased mindframe that I described. We are in a forum that is supposed to be about putting truth 1st. The truth is that a culture and implementation of healthy, monogamous marriages leads to a stable society while the opposite leads to it's collapse and ultimately famine, war and genocide. If you want to partake in that, sure, and i'm not being sarcastic. we are all human after all, and like I said, I couldn't tell you if I'd be any different. Just realize that liberalism is a lie and that the current sexual market is a direct incentivizing towards extreme forms of selfishness of both sexes and will lead to death and destruction. Don't justify it as generic self-improvement. Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law if you want it to be. I am calling out your bullshit, not your lack of morals, although that also frustrates me, but again, I'm not above that. I'm above bullshit and lies. PS: This culture shift has not been organic but quite orchestrated from institutions like the Frankfurt school and others with lots of money behind it. From bolsheviks wanting to end the family to give control to the state, to liberals like the actual Hugh Hefner who wanted sexual revolution and feminism so he could fuck 100s of girls. They all had power/ego-driven ideological reasons for incentivizing the breakdown of healthy marriages and this is all well documented. @yetineti The game-theoretical realities I described above. In essence; destroying marriage incentives endless competition, lack of morals and degeneration (because of women selecting for dysgenic traits) and both sexes becoming huge pieces of shit until society collapses due to frustration, lack of trust and moral character. Women choosing to be childless also makes society economically unbearable.

Alright this will be one of my final posts, I get generally to many people falsely association with where my development left, as I dove very deep into mathematics, and evolutionary algorithms also under the influence of psychdelics, and I had very high states similar to what Rumis describes what Leo post currently I already went through in my 20's it's very backwards and retrospective, the whole point of realizing actualized.org is at best only a ressource is what the core of this is about, I learn more for myself for 10 years this has been a huge blockade in my development, due to the insanity of the denil of his own corruption, he might help some on the path, but if you're attracted ot my content and viewpoint you must also see how deluded Leo is. I found videos of my ex girlfriend who has similar trauma and a life story, and generally speaking it's a huge coincidence, long story short; it's mostly about the empowerment of the youth, and the issue how egotistical and disgusting people like Leo and the Ex are as there are similarities in their "Tamsic" qualities, and the more I see how conformist they are and act out their performative contradictive shadow at stage green, I can clearly see, how different we are, our understanding on God is different has he steadily focuses on Overmind, and that is to low of a perspective, and imo, Leo is a strong denialists of others spiritual progress and power, and has a very deep envy drive, he has not worked through properly yet, but I did it a lot and saw that in the ex, how hypergamy and status and the worship of humans and the egotistical self-reference are an eternal issues, while I almost deleted my entire life out of devotion to life itself in a meditative state, only for that to approved by one son of a whore called Leo Fick Dich Du Hurensohn. A deep part of my eternal hate rests within your tamasic qualities, at times I don't wish you well for what I go through even if you're right, I am not the type of person who ever needed any word from you just, show me what you read that is enough, I might come back to the perspective, but tbh if I ever meet you on the wrong day, Fick dich du Hurensohn, I fucking hate you for what you are in this life. I utterly hate you for this extrem level of ignorance, your blind to your own existence and what I suspect about you, in the end if it would not be for other larger then life persons such as Ralston or Shinzen having interacted with you, I could not respect someone like you with any sanity, life is to complex, and imo Leo is to dumb and stupid to realize the complexities, being vulnerable around a profit driven stage red Leo Gura etc. some of this takes even if genuient are just for the camera, the more I contemplate his story and words, and how long I trusted the depth & pain and the new audiobooks I consume from more holier people, I can clearly see what a deluded leftist prick son of a whore he is, and I wish you death yes physical death for what happend here, you are one fucking asshole, let alone any nefarious quality I sensed about you. FICK DICH & CEASE You are satanic, by your very essence you're satanic, even if you heal your soul, something about you is still very satanic, the perspective and the work that heals you is good, but in the end the more I am free and can enjoy my life and the complexities of it, I can see what a time waste it is, to have ever trusted this body of work, I had to extract most of it, and Shinzen is right sometimes you just have to take the teachings and run, imo if you follow this guy for to long it will end badly, I am not the first one with this intuition, but there are very deep disgusting manipulative tendencies that make me resent being near such a person, and creates dark thoughts of suicide etc. I don't enjoy this tamsic quality of karma, crocodiles etc. these people are satanic, lethargic and tbh even if they have good will, they are not as pure hearted, they lack psychic vision for their heart, and just feed of life, I could write more, but I will dissect this more privately I am absolutely done with actualized.org, I come to get some ressources, but most of the stuff that I don't post is rehearsed etc. Some of the best members already left or already benefitted more, this is exactly the bullshit that he caused by talking down on Rajas qualities and the whole spectrum of his envious or blind envious character, imo nothing he did not seriously and scientifically tested on himself is good, I share a large part of his worldview in some aspects in the liberal territory, but imo he is massively blind to the history of black people, middle east, and it's not even the history, the guy just lacks the human ground to sense the differences, and acts like this white liberal fucking southern cali garbadge you have to make fun of in a self-ironic take. I am so done with what I have to see within my own family fuck this fake kid, fuck this satanic ex, and their similarities and their narccistic mother with their pride of children etc. There is much more, feel free to ban this fucking account, I am so done with any of his videos, I can come back with tech any time, there is no real to stop me if I really want I can just learn to hack & get the ressources, I already find so much with what I am doing, but I am not that type of character and I value ethics, but just not with these tamasic people, it's the same shit everytime the burden will land on, one of us, and I prefer to lead, and I can't stand people like him leading it just leads to the weirdest and dumbest types of obstruction and there is a lack of vision of progress moving forward, and to little vitality to share that type of energy and move forward, I don't lack this energy, fundamentally this is just a good bye to actualized.org and my efforts to be a member of this community, I've had no positive experience of being in a community if it's not about me to a larger extend or I have a leading or functioning leading role, or a role of autonomey. Let alone the difference of universities and growing-up and the age difference make it more clear to me, on a fundamental level he fucked up teaching, I can't tell the reason besides his own genetics and the whole topic of family & race, which is something I'd rather engage with people where it ressonates, and it makes more sense the stuff I found about history and him might being involved in these ploys just show me how deluded currently the east of europe and russia etc generally is, and I am utterly disgusted by how this is currently unfolding, and it pains me to see the good heart of it being pullted by discusting rats like Putin, I will watch some episodes, and engage with the content in my own way & filtered way to face reality, and not his illusions abour reality and my projections etc. There is a stark difference in character and development between us, and the more information I find the more clearly I can see how this is partially due to my white genetics, but I have to little knowledge & insight into my black d.n.a, I can look at my american family, but many of their own issues and story, a lot with race & identity, due to having a Texan background, as well as the whole "white nazification of tech" and how such liberals contribute with their whole micer paradigm, and lack of abillity to be in communion, they are mostly greening around there is a lack to move from Yellow-Psychic and integrate the lower properly, discluding being a saint. I am reading some very powerful books, I will not mention that just blow apart the whole work of Leo himself, and I am thankful for what he provided insight into the dating field and area, these tamasic type of relationship engaging attracted me due to having an extended 8w9 family, but it's Direct Wealth based, and German it's very different background and these people trusted me a lot, a lot happend, imo we could've prevented Iran, but it's the whole issue with the post-modernism of this site, and lack of integral engagment and just giving people the benfit of the doubt, attacking the wrong people who do the work silently to beginn with and who clear their own doubts, and making it a status game. Holy fuck this website was a status game a few years back, and this is why I see Leo like Trump as he is achievement driven, the issues of exellence and supression or disciminatory behaviour is completely different and mostly due to the intensity of narccicism and Germany scores the highest currently, America seems very different to me, and I have different priviledges, after meeting such people and seeing that they don't truly have a background of friends that is so extremely diverse, imo they miss the quality of LEBEN but as SUPERMIND directly implanted in your soul, which is GOD! God is higher than your shit Overmind, and I am done with anyone who does not adress me with the level of self-respect I feel for myself. Imo your a good human, but your a coward, Fick dich du Hurensohn Leo Gura, that is the first thing that ever came to my mind seeing you. Hurensohn, you can thank Kahzakstan for that, but tbh you lack any variety of experience, just sitting at home with video etc. Buy or fuck a bot or smth. something about you just rubs me the wrong way and I pulled a lot of effort into including that with shadow work, but I am partially done doing clean up for whores who don't even deserve life in my own eyes, and I accidentally deleted my own life in a close to mahasamadhi state, to have a tamasic clown give me shit feedback, just fuck you at times, you're very dumb, and archetypally don't fuck with me I am serious. You are satanic, in contrast to you my soul is already a gift from God, I have meet realized people you have never seen smelled or tasted and I posted them here, you are one ungrateful disgusting black cock loving little water snake and you are one piece of shit I tell you for what I can sense with spiral dynamics you do well, but I am very glad when you are under you own, I still love you in my own twisted way, but your work and influence is inflated imo. I wasted a lot of time not reflecting on myself due to the influence of people like you and imo you cause to many accidents and there is just some esoteric stuff that is more important, and tbh your level of science is absolutely garbadge as philosopher, it's to bad to even consider you equally minded after what I went through, this is a bye forever, I will not post anymore with this account, this is my last post, and I am done with Leo Gura, I just check for ressources and perspectives, as it's the only value it has ever had for me over these years, I blocked this for 10 days or so, that is long enough to block it forever, the guy still has some huge issues with tall black people and just the whole paradigm of "being american" and having lived in Russia, I know such people, there is something about you, that you have to explore with someone who is similar to me, but I tell you it's not me, I hope you find your answers, especially in God, but fuck you are deluded about religion and have 0 ressonance as this whole nobility spectrum makes your eyes clouded, you should seriously experience something different then royal treatment just normal suffering or a 4w3 perspective should pull you to senses, if that does not happen something is wrong, or the 4w3 is corrupted in practicality anyhow, I went quite far, having fked and dated turkish girls, having a lot of middle eastern friends and close friends when smaller, and others I don't think a prick who grew up so privileged understands even the concept of priviledge coming from an american military background, something about your soul even when I hate my father at times, is utterly disgusting and corrupt through your fathers action, while my soul at times screams clean revenge at humans that most likely are like you and your father, idk how he started his buisness why you had no electricty and went broke, but your soul is lost in this tamasic apathy at times, your mind is beautiful but your soul at times, idk. I am not also advoacting for that my soul is super clean etc. but I get a lot of impulses from spirit Intution & Supermind, I am not as overmind control driven as such people, and it's rather annoying dealing with archetypes can also be a waste of time, and I utterly am advised to dismiss it most likely in the way such people dismiss it, I am still looking anyhow for people that resonate with me, and that will change every 2 years in my experience, some stay longer but I have to see anyhow. This is bye bye!!! I am gone thank you for everything, but also fuck you for everything! I still for a large part dislike and hate you, for being a huge distraction putting on these long ass episodes, that at times are more fluff then A.I can provide and the whole perspective of a.i here etc. is just the liberal white underbelly and dissatisfaction, and please stop caring about every issue, I am so done with these snoop noses, acting all good, while having this tamasic body, it's just odd seeing how deluded this energy can be and it's not something I had to face, more randomness and raja types of qualities unrestful people seeking to do good. But the conformity and stereotype people like leo create are dso disgusting it just goes also against many good approaches for health etc. or anything that is just normal, and acceptable moving on with what happens is more intelligent and acts with the principle of not-doing, then this tamasic greed of lust of nothingness. I also had this pyramid thing on forever etc. but tbh, my mind is tainted by what I experienced I don't enjoy posting stuff and I am glad I find so much variety I hope to find more, but I am done and out BYE!!! I hope you forget me, my name and my posts! In the end participating here showed me I wasted my time with my own happiness and joy, facing envious spirits joining in their liberal cause or perception etc. I naturally have a different approach and bias to face, the collective waves of this might come or not, but I also just enjoy the perspective, but in the end we're fundamentally very different I had a lot of god access already as a child and teen, I don't think people like you comprehend true devotion, I would voluntarily delete myself for some holy people I don't think you have that strength of will. I can't see you as a mature spiritual human, so this is bye forever, this will last multiple lifettimes, I am already facing my demons, you don't belong to them, but you are satanic to me in nature. Calling me a devil is a joke, if you'd ever meet my satanic side, it would be quickly over for you, you are a fucking joke and clown. Bye.

Of course. Fighting is just an elevated concept of competition. Competition is a great survival strategy as it lets you outcompete people and take their value. I think Leo talked about it in his libertarianism video but wars and slavery started after the agricultural revolution. Beforehand wars and tribal warfare were a net negative, tribes didn't have much wealth and you had a high likelihood of dying and getting injured through fighting. Agriculture let humanity store massive amounts of value in predictable timeframes. So a group of bandit could fuck around and just raid farmers in the Fall in the harvest season and outcompete them. If you take them prisoner and get them to farm for you then even better you don't even have to raid them each year. Until our current era of technology that's gotten so effective to the point of world wars killing millions and the interesting mechanism of the nuclear bomb that makes true conflict suicide for everyone involved. There is a very scary concept that's about to come out that might end this balance and bring back the era of warfare: killer bots I think it's extremely important that we see this coming and make strong peace treaties and build mutually beneficial arrangements so there is no incentive to start waging wars en masse with these cheap weapons of destruction. With the way geopolitics is going right now though that seems optimistic. Ironically seems like reality was all predicted a long time ago. The Bible talked about 7 years of tribulation before AI came to earth. To me that sounds like 7 years of WW3 until we have an AI post scarcity utopia world peace.

speaking from what you've learned from your experience, would you say suicide leads to a restart of the dream/release from maya or would it lead deeper into maya?

Now a mon of 4 in Frankfort, IL - Corie Walsh - who had been infatuated with this case has hung her 2 year old in the basement while trying a suicide attempt in the bathtub with a knife. Frankfort is only like 30 minutes from me. A copycat killer. I guess they think that psychosis defense gives them a free pass.

@Natasha Tori Maru Hi natasha, I think in the deepest sense authenticity is those things though. From a spiritual and metaphysical perspective, it is not giving a fuck about what would happen or other people's presence or opinions -- a state of no others and bliss. Of course, this is radical and it is suicide when we are talking about dating and relationships which are inherently strategic and conditional ways of being. Do you agree with this? I'm curious to what you have to say even if it is a bit offtopic haha😅

There's no fault in not knowing if you're willing to investigate further. The reading and study can be tedious. It can be extremely boring unless you're truly curious and willing to investigate. Investigating the term ego. A bifurcation is immediately encountered making a distinction between the ego of spiritual literature and the ego as defined in psychoanalytic theory or developmental psychology. I enjoy the glossary found in A.H. Almaas' Diamond Approach. The Ridhwan School,,,, https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/alphabetical?alphabet=5 Confusion About the Term "Ego" Here we digress to point out a source of confusion about the term “ego.” Readers who know both the spiritual and psychological literatures will find the term freely used in both, but with no general agreement on what the term refers to. This ambiguity often leads to confusion. The literature on spiritual development, on essential or inner development, on all matters of religious concern, generally uses the term “ego” to mean something which is seen as the barrier to spiritual realization. The literature on depth psychology, however, uses the term with a very different meaning. The ego referred to by Freud, and which ego psychology studies, is not the ego which is the barrier to spiritual development. They are two different concepts. The psychoanalytic term “ego” refers, rather, to the functional self, which is the site, organizer, and coordinator of the functions of perception, memory, mobility, and so on. There is, however, a concept in depth psychology and ego psychology that coincides with the ego of spiritual literature: it is called the “ego-identity,” and is sometimes referred to as the sense of self, or the sense of identity. This sense of self or separate identity is the main concern of ego developmental theory. This identity is, in fact, the acme, the most important outcome of ego development. It is ultimately the organizing center of the psychic apparatus. This psychic apparatus includes as one of its units the Freudian ego. In other words, the Freudian ego is part of the mind, is a structure or a structured process in it, while the self is a sense of identity and a center of action. The exact sense in which the ego identity is a barrier to spiritual development will become clear in later chapters. The Void, pg. 9 Interdependence Between Ego and Being To know that one is Being, which is not within the realm of images, is such a subtle understanding that it seems impossible for a child to have this knowledge. Enlightenment must wait for the maturity of perception, discrimination and understanding, since it depends on self knowledge. These capacities depend upon concepts. We can say then that ego is needed for enlightenment, since the beginning of conceptualization in childhood is inextricably linked with the development of the ego. So first the ego, which is needed for knowledge and functioning, develops; then the capacity for discriminating knowledge, among other things, leads to the dissolution of the ego. The final result is the life of Being, including the development of functioning within the realm of Being. This interdependence between ego and Being can also be seen in the process of inner metabolism. Ego on its own cannot complete the metabolism of experience and hence cannot bring about complete human development; Being is needed for this process to take place. On the other hand, Being cannot accomplish on its own the whole process of metabolism; it cannot dislodge ego when ego is defensive. From the perspective of the mind, Being can be resisted easily with a slight movement of ego; thus ego must first cooperate by relinquishing its defensive posture. Pearl Beyond Price, pg. 167 Have a nice day and stuff Enjoy yourself and all Being too serious is slow suicide The bumper sticker - Mean people suck,,, - Seems like a paradox to me.

>be typical young white mother growing up in the insanity of Trumpist America >suffer depression, anxiety etc etc etc >get fed cocktail of drugs by concerned family, still feel like shit inside >can’t stand raising kids, want to be a “good mother” but also hate that you’re now trapped in a suburban hellhole >come up with some half-baked plan to murder your kids and kinda-sorta kill yourself but not really to get out of your existential nightmare >suicide failed and now you’re in jail, come up with some lame excuse about “hearing voices” and other pop-psychology bullshit to justify why you felt your kids had to die to get out of your own suffering >half the world eats it up That’s how I see it

Yeah, most likely what happened is she was planning on committing suicide after taking her kids out, but then was too chickenshit and failed at cutting her wrists, throat, and jumping out the window. There were "hesitation cuts" for both knife wounds and then when she jumped out the window, she couldn't do it and was hanging from the ledge before she dropped. I don't think she was in a temporary psychosis. She just botched her plan and for some reason never took herself out afterwards. But it's weird because if I was going to take myself out after the horrific experience of killing my kids, I'd make damn sure I didn't fail at my own suicide. Like, if I had just killed my kids, I would slit the fuck out of my wrists and throat, not just superficial cuts, and I'd jump head first out the window, lol. But people are different I guess, and maybe she couldn't bring herself to do it properly, even after having enacted something horrific. It's odd to me that the same mind that strangled three children failed to complete its own suicide. But I get it:

If Russia defeats Ukraine, occupies the whole country, and spends the next four decades killing them, stealing from them, and brutalizing them, and the entire world not only doesn’t sanction Russia but actually celebrates and supports them, that would happen. And a third of the Israelis killed on Oct 7 were soldiers or police. They act like it was just a massacre of defenseless civilians for propaganda purposes, most of the fighting was Hamas attacking military bases used to imprison Gaza. Chechnya is another example, after decades of violence from Russia their resistance became more extreme and began using suicide bombings and kidnappings. Again the idea Palestinian resistance is abnormally brutal or irrational is ahistorical propaganda, in comparable situations they’ve actually been far less extreme than similar oppressed populations. South African apartheid wasn’t nearly as long or as brutal and they absolutely refused to end armed resistance until their goals were met. Meanwhile the PA has given up armed resistance in favor of diplomacy despite the situation being far worse and their diplomatic attempts being far less effective.

Why would Palestinians attack Israel and risk suicide if they get their country? The reason they do terrorism to begin with, is the brutal occupation and medievil siege that Israel has placed on them If they have a legit state of their own with full autonomy, the suicidal desire will be removed People are suicidal when they see no other alternative It is not "typical leftist fashion" it is simple logic that you can see in other conflicts where coerced groups feel they have no other choice but do terrorism Northen Ireland situation was also doing terrorism until the situation got resolved Now it is no longer the case I notice you view Palestinians as suicidal terrorist which is the way American medias tries to frame them In reality majority are very reasonable people and only resort to terrorism when everything else has failed If they have their own state, there will no longer be such need to attack. Also, lets just exercise the idea that Palestine will still attack. Is not that already happening? Do you really think a weak Palestinian state with gdp smaller than jordan will magically become an existencial threat to Israel? I would argue the current set up is more dangerous for Israel than a Palestinian state More Israelis have died by Palestinian attacks than by Lebanese army for example which is a state (including Hezbollah) Some food for though

Royals are glorified mascots. Great when you like them, but as soon as they are unlikable people start questioning why you even have them. Royals serve no legitimate democratic function. It's bourgeoisie bankrolled by people's tax money. Notice how royals never make statements critical of the government, of culture, or of any kind that could be controversial. King Haakon never admonished Norwegian for drinking too much. Because if they started to be divisive, people would start disliking them and questioning why you are paying for their moon boots and literal royal treatment. Being "nice" is survival for royals. If I remember correct, the king technically has the right to veto new laws, but that never happens as it would basically be elite status suicide. And still things slip through the cracks, especially from the princes and princesses, because of how elite status and decadence corrupts people's sense of reality. Like prince Andrew or the Epstein hoe or the little Rapist prince who could. Given enough reason to, people will realize that they don't need royals for anything.

I watched an expert testifying earlier today who was talking about why he didn't suspect that she was experiencing a command hallucination. And he said that, with people who experience command hallucinations there's a tendency to use coping mechanisms to drown them out... like praying. And Lindsay Clancy wasn't doing that. There's also a tendency for people with these hallucinations to experience them periodically. And it would be uncommon for someone to experience them once and then not again. He also found it unlikely because she had said that she was experiencing these hallucinations all the way throughout the duration of the 20 minutes, with the external voice repeating the same phrase over and over the entire time. He may have brought up another point, as well. But those are the ones that I'm recalling. But he was suspecting that she was committing suicide and filicide... killing her children out of love and because she didn't want to be separated from them when she commits suicide. And I don't know about that explanation. To me, it seems like that's a reach to assume her motive was to kill her children out of love. But in that case, she'd still be criminally responsible for their deaths. So, he was in favor of her being seen as guilty. But his reasoning about the motive seemed very speculative.

@Joshe I think when you read it her history, it clear it wasn’t just a verbal command hallucinations. It came with a weight, and it was a reality and paradigm shift from the sounds of it. Clearly, there was a deeper issue if it was caused by psychosis then just hearing a voice say kill your kids and yourself to be free of this hell. She was open to others around her she was having thoughts of killing herself in the kids in the days and weeks prior. Really, she should not have been left alone with them until she returned to normal. It’s not normal to not sleep for weeks, etc. It’s hard to exactly the depth of the self deception she could have faced. She was a delivery nurse, and was very focused on the wellbeing of her kids for years. It’s so odd. I have to be willing to more openly consider she may have planned it, and I allowed my mind to open and take in more opposing views to my current one. Though, currently think the medication and over all mental health lead to this. https://abcnews.com/US/wireStory/killing-kids-lindsay-clancy-searched-hallucinations-psychosis-ways-135625829 “Her attorneys say Clancy did everything she could to seek help: She turned to multiple outpatient providers, tried various drugs they prescribed, called a suicide hotline, went to an emergency room, and approached but wasn’t accepted into a hospital-based, full-day treatment program for women with postpregnancy mental health problems. Clancy even checked herself into a psychiatric hospital for several days. Rather than improving, her condition worsened on the ever-remixed cocktail of psychiatric medications, some of them problematic for bipolar patients, her attorneys and family say.” Though, it’s unclear to me now what she told her doctors who prescribed the medication as i am seeing conflicting reports.

She even attempted suicide.

Justice is made by fully understanding the situation. It would be unjust to allow a woman to be fed for weeks medications causing extreme damage to herself brain and nervous system which resulted in hallucinations which caused her to want to kill herself and her kids. If my parents killed me id want to understand what happened. I’d want justice, not just arbitrary punishment. A precedent should be set to protect people in the future by making it illegal to over prescribe medications clearly causing harm. The medical history is very clear this was medication induced psychosis. You guys take for granted your sanity. I don’t think she in her right mind would have done this. Killing your three kids is obviously something no one gets away with. It’s social suicide. You guys act like she would do it, but give no motive.

Andrea Yates, Texas, 2001/2006 — the direct Clancy precedent. Yates drowned her five children in the bathtub, called 911 and her husband herself, and told police she'd killed them to save them from Satan — believing she was so corrupted that her children were doomed unless they died while still innocent. Documented history: two suicide attempts, multiple psychiatric hospitalizations, postpartum psychosis diagnosis, and a psychiatrist who'd warned against having more children. First jury convicted her in under four hours (Texas puts the insanity burden on the defendant, and its M'Naghten test asks only whether she knew the act was "wrong" — she'd said she knew it was against the law). Conviction overturned on appeal over false expert testimony; the 2006 retrial jury found her NGRI. Same woman, same facts, same state — opposite verdicts. It's the cleanest real-world demonstration that the verdict measures the legal machinery and the jury, not the defendant's mind. If you want one case to sit next to Clancy, it's this one. People v. Decina, New York, 1956 — culpability transfers backward to the last voluntary act. Decina had a known seizure disorder. He chose to drive anyway, had a seizure behind the wheel, his car jumped the curb and killed four children. His defense was pure intruder logic: the seizure was involuntary, there was no conscious act, so there's no crime — you can't punish a man for what his body did while his mind was absent. The court said: wrong timestamp. The criminal act wasn't the seizure — it was getting into the car, fully lucid, knowing what his condition could do. Convicted of criminally negligent homicide. The principle: trace back from the harm to the last moment of control and knowledge, and responsibility attaches there — it's the rule that kills "but I was unconscious" whenever a lucid earlier self knowingly deployed a dangerous later self (driving with untreated epilepsy, drinking into a blackout, another Ambien after prior episodes). One caveat: the transfer is negligence-grade, not murder-grade — the lucid self took a reckless risk, it didn't intend a death. Kenneth Parks, Canada, 1987 — the clean automatism acquittal. Parks got up in the night, drove 14 miles to his in-laws' house, beat and stabbed his mother-in-law to death, seriously injured his father-in-law, then drove to a police station and said "I think I have killed some people" — all, the defense argued, while sleepwalking. He had no motive (he was close with his in-laws, who called him "the gentle giant"), a heavy family history of parasomnias, and EEG findings consistent with the claim. Acquitted outright, and the Supreme Court of Canada upheld it in R v. Parks (1992). This is the case that proves courts will accept the intruder logic when the circumstantial silhouette is clean: no motive, no history of violence, documented sleep disorder, and behavior too bizarre to be a plan. It's the mirror image of Decina — no voluntary act anywhere upstream. Brian Thomas, Wales, 2009 — same defense, different flavor. Thomas, a man with a 50-year documented history of night terrors, strangled his wife of 40 years in their camper van while dreaming he was fighting off an intruder — they'd moved the van that evening to escape some rowdy kids, and the threat apparently followed him into sleep. He called 999 himself, hysterical. The prosecution withdrew mid-trial after its own psychiatric experts agreed he was in automatism; the judge told him he bore no responsibility. Useful because it shows even a prosecution conceding the defense when the evidence profile is right — and because the "victim is whoever happened to be nearby" logic is horrifyingly literal. Herbert Weinstein, New York, 1991 — the brain scan in the courtroom. Weinstein, a 65-year-old ad executive with no history of violence, strangled his wife during an argument and threw her body from their 12th-floor window to stage a suicide. A PET scan revealed an orange-sized arachnoid cyst compressing his frontal lobe. Note what the staging behavior does to the intruder theory: he was organized enough to construct a cover-up, which cuts against "no capacity" — yet the lesion was undeniably real and sitting in the decision-making hardware. Prosecutors, reportedly worried a jury would acquit once they saw the scan, offered a manslaughter plea. This is the "what if it were a verifiable brain event" hypothetical escaped into reality — and it landed exactly on the hard question: was the lesion the cause, or an accelerant on an existing fire? Nobody could decompose the causal shares between the cyst and the marriage, so the system split the difference with a plea. Whitman gets cited as the thought experiment; Weinstein is what actually happens when the scan shows up in court. R v. Quick, England, 1973 — the diabetic nurse and the insulin blackout. Quick, a diabetic nurse, assaulted a patient while hypoglycemic — too much insulin, not enough food. The court's ruling drew a distinction that directly answers the "why does the source of the malfunction matter?" question: a malfunction caused by an external factor (the insulin injection) is automatism, a full defense — while a malfunction arising from internal disease would be insanity, which leads to commitment rather than acquittal. Same defendant, same blackout, completely different legal fate depending on whether the cause came from outside or inside the body. The kicker: this means the law's answer to "why is exogenous more forgivable?" is partly just administrative — external causes are treated as one-off accidents unlikely to recur, internal ones as standing dangers requiring containment. Recurrence risk, not moral desert, drives the line.

If you believe her story, then you know she already attempted suicide. When you live with images of strangling your own kids, that would move you into suicidal ideation. So if she does commit suicide, that would be the main contributing factor - the images/memories of what she has done and daily living in the world she created where she killed her kids and jumped out a window to paralysis. Maximum societal shame is second to that. Imagine if all the details were the same but instead killing her own children, she killed someone else’s. Would empathy be lower and punishment easier to dole out? If so, what does that say?

The incels and pick me girl's are foaming at the mouth over this witch burning. People like to point at Hitler or Stahlin as some anomaly, but look at the evil in this thread TODAY, these people would burn jews in ovens, evil, they want to kill a woman in cold blood. From all this viral vitriole from you credents I fully expect after her not-guilty ruling for some vigilante to kill her or for her to commit suicide, that's on you guys, sit with that. Stochastic homicide/attempted murder, straight to hell.... murder.

To contemplate on the epsiodes, my biggest upsides of maturity and what leverages my maturity usually is when I have a lot of time to prepare for my health, and I can just eat proper meals for now, that I can feel a sense of accomplishment finishings projects continuing with a success journal and a gratitude journal, cleaning-up notes or interconnecting them, that I am always on time besides there is a serious issue of health, or some background psychological problem I had in the past, burn-out just being overworked from not having A.I as a research tool, getting no time for movement, small compliments of things I did not really have a solution besides to take the complaint, and walk 10000 miles, after to many life breaking events, it's not easy to deal with death early, or in ones mid-twenties, I can reflect on the experience, but most importantly there was not much maturity I learned from Leo to beginn with, most came just exercising and taking care of health, and getting away from the fun and adventure and enjoying my own introverted solo adventure types of stories, new friends I made where I felt there is intimacy, being open-minded about other peoples development, but letting them not to close. What I recently faced was a lot of the nazification in tech, where a lot of young men, were just in for it for the hype and greed, while I learned to love it, and was partially depressed, as I could generate so little meaning, when I contemplate further what it takes to be a mature man, I should''ve never followed Leo Gura, and continued to read books, as I decided very early, I am going to my my own role model, and there are very few men that inspire me nowadays, the points about Trump are accurate, but most post-modern liberals also went haywire with their complaints while we in Europe made a lot of memes, and thought America is still a decent place, and there is finally hope for humanity with all the issues of diversity we face here in Germany, I also have never seen so many news of murder, idk I feel like my collective pain-body contributes to it, but only due to the issue of the scar and the pain of the break-up, there is also a deep part of me being willfully ignorant, I was faced with that a lot, I will contemplate later a bit with ChatGPT and continue to do the shadow work exercises, as there are just some parts of it, that I saw with maturity in relationships, where it was to much about fun and adventure, and a lack of planning, and I was so overworked caring about everything and being responsible I did not even notice it was to late, the person did not care, she only cared about the sex and my dick and I never thought women would be that shallow, my whole life I had to deal with the perspective women are these deep beautiful creatures, while most of the depth I experienced was me penetrating her with my vision, but with so many constant changes, it was not easy and I was easily pushed into the man of 0 as well as the point of serious considerations of suicide, due to the issue of not feeling loved, facing new information about what happend within my family, my father from being small having a gun pointed at his head, from my american grandma idk why she did that she passed away 3 years ago and still was a very loving human.... more loving then my german counter-parts who're more entrenched in their survival, imo the biggest fear I faced in recent years, was just moderation and finding things that allow for temperance that might seem a bit more unorthodox for others, I was deeper into integrating more authentic self-love, but I meet a lot of scammers and trolls even on this website, some stuff I have to figure out on my own, but my biggest issue was the super high expectations of myself to myself of being mature, and not being a little bit more temperate about the whole process, taking more notes, making the process of development more enjoyable weeding out the old problems, sticking to what is enjoyable, as I have to be spontaneously mature the whole time and learn on the whim and on the go, due to survival pressure and the hidden games my family played with money, it only bit them and me in the ass, it's the stupidest thing, I often do better with money even in debt now, then I can even believe, most who have money trauma even Leo, as his life story is similar to the ex of mine loosing electricity and such is a huge immature, nefarious projection, and somehow only the top scientist at the university were able to protect me from that and engage in a more authentic display of emotions, but I did not have the scientific knowledge and maturity to outright join, and they were able to deal with immaturity en masse, as they have to deal with it each semester some new juvenile, young and naive person, I would also not call a person right away immature but naive, but everyone takes offense at different things. What I can see the most is some of the things I'd call mature and other called mature, was the reading of books, taking notes, self-improvment and self-help, working on becoming a leader doing retreats etc. taking care of health, but as soon as I became more financiall succesful without the classical types of DW archetypal success and my own IW archetype being active with investments, deals and how they call it "honorless money" I simply enjoyed the luck and energy, but soemhow the collective projection made it difficult to share anything of it and to enjoy and have a nice time, I even scaled the money I had left, as very little was even given to me, it was just the perception and my anger of the extremeties of the unknown, unsupervised learning with a serious scientist with over 10000k citations and publications (if I am not wrong with what I looked up), was and is definitely was more genuient than the experience of being strangled by money and the uncertainity of it, some things were just the nefarious projections where in the end I felt left alone and people misjuged character and I ran into a self-fullfilling prohphecy of bullies, assholes, and straight up the illest forms of intentions a human can have the more I learned from Sadghuru, as it's just focused on pure destruction, and there is no strand left of any positive, conscious good will or capital G Good will that is conscious, just destruction, it's not the Rajas type of uncertainity a monkey has, that I found out via BaZi and Tarot that this is significant to me, but mostly the core point of unresaonabillity and behind that being a sign of brilliance is to more Tamas/Crocodilic people immature while that sloth, and lazyness is one of the worst types of intentions one can have, while the restlesness often times is just not energy put to use, due to confusion etc. The point of cheating in the video, I post another video below about dating, I never manipulated and lied in the relationship, small passive aggressive lies eventually mostly around time and meeting friends, as I am not naturally that social I often declined instead of meeting up with some friends or steadily going to concerts etc. I also never cheated on her, and we made it a clear point that it's fine to consume pornography as I had very little issue of that, and I deleted my tinder and other dating apps very quickly the mother loved my maturity to beginn with, but I found out they were massively corrupt, and I have to work myself out now of this situation and get some help, I really crave just some good sleep and reading in bed, the episode showed me I had the willingess to do where Leo would be like "yuck" what a boring asshole, and these comments get to me in time, but alone I often had support of a diverse set of group of friends, the I-Ching book I have in German, also holds tremendous wisdom I forgot, most of all I should stay clear of the forum, most progress and development is not lost, and I should just block it take my time follow my path do what is right and find solutions via Most of my reading and work fell on deaf ears, and engaging with people as I wanted to be a therapist when I was younger, as I enjoyed the spiritual purification and the maturity and recognition also, especially also feeding self-transendence needs and putting people there, even in very f*ed scenarios was a key pointer, but somehow the whole idea of agape and evolution pulled me more towards software engineering, and the whole point of equanmity, to be in pure equanimity for me is the pinnacle of maturity and responsibility, not "response" - "abillity" alone, but to have a way that is equanemous and deeply masterful or akin to god-like leadership in these scenarios that just leaves humans with a sense of profundity, the backlash most often is envy, but equanimity is a very strong leadership principle and energetic state desireable. I will most likely set-up some time blockers to not be on the forum, I have now enough interconnected tools and journals to not need this, and I socially do quite well, it really depends on the perspective, and I am somewhat over the shadow of TIER II networking, but also crave a bit of fun, I have to think this properly through often times, just some food and tea at night already makes me more mature then 99.9% and I can still dish out 2-4 h of extra work, as long as my systems don't shoot themselves up, be warned! 😮 I will restrict this website today, and take some measures to simple work harder and be more responsible there are some core things I don't agree with that somehow is tainted deeply be Leo's envious nature, and I don't really see behind it, by every type of information I consumed I should actually stay the heck away from this guy, or at best observe and learn from the "frenemy", but I am mostly gone now and will resort to different types of help, I had also spiritual breakthroughs with astrology, often times I find the perspective here are tainted by the modernist, atheitistc viewpoints that now thanks to Elon, Peter Thiel and Trump have become nazified to some extend, I meet enough "nazis" to be able to even see behind and inside of them the core issues is not even them, but the blind masses not seeing how they contribute the most to this collective shoot out of who is the most conscious & mature, and imo Leo contributed heavily to it, with some video tantrums, it just feeds into the collective... being equanemous is a pure gift... I miss it... just taking care of health generates enough I am out, thanks for everything!! I am going to post less and restrict the site to very late hours and keep viewing the site to a minimum of 2-5 minutes. I fucked around to much with actualized.org, the most type of values is I get from contemplating the videos, and finding some offline source to take notes and write down my stuff. This is nice to be a bit social, but I already would've ended my life last year, as I have some very deep seated points about society, that got to me or eventually is just in my D.N.A as my grandma american pulled a gun to my fathers head for some time? and he was in the military and the war is getting to me, I would've been gone, also to the dipshitness at times this community and even the mods are, especially sincerity is someone I vehemently hate for what I experienced in europe, and I simply have to go and find a place, I hate such humans simply, because they have everything handed to them and simply can't even understand some very deep parts of consciousness and imo Leo misread some of my posts, and I even went deeper then I thought, I also found new gurus or teachers and mentors, where I can even be more clean, especially about health, and not be as rigid anymore I am still grateful, but this forum is just not really it for me, I had a way deeper trajectory, I still would love at times to hang-out with Leo or at least spend some time, but it's similar with the first women I loved, at best love such people from a distance, they underestimate their impact vehemently and so do I at times. I leave this here, will be mostly gone, but somewhat also active.

That's a good point. The insanity plea has to prove that the defendant lost the ability to tell right from wrong. If that was truly the case she would've just done it in front of him and tried to kill him too. Sounds like an overwhelm of life paired with Christian beliefs that her children will go to heaven after she kills them and so will she since she believes in Jesus so she was going for murder-suicide into a happily ever after in the afterlife.

The conservatards are evil Imagine going to psychiatrists and everyone telling them you're having psychotic thoughts of murdering your kids, them giving you a handful of pills and sending you off to their birthday party, killing your entire family, paralyzing yourself trying to suicide, then these douche canoes attacking her like a witch trial. Evil

Depends on the kind of music, art and whether it is true to you. We can only receive what's true relative to our receptivity to it. This is no different to our calling. Our purpose is much less a doing, and more a question. The question however, is not "What is our purpose?" It is, "Can I answer the calling when it arrives?" Purpose is also not a single signature in the same way many centres of our nervous system need to be online to hear it. If we are angry and ungrounded, we are blinded and distorted. If we are depressed and ruminative, we are apathetic and pathetic. That said, sometimes it is only when we are most unconscious and have completely and utterly given up, that the light of life will return to us for a moment, before that light fully fizzles out such as in a near death experience, or before that light is ready to be received again in a deeper state of meditation. This is true when we observe everything from over-stimulated to being over-stressed; activity without directionality is self-directed harm on anything resembling living with a sense of purpose. Often when kids are put in military school for example, even if they eventually enjoy it, in the beginning the military must give them constant tasks on a certain timetable to both distract them from the legitimacy (so the purpose) of a military school and align them with at least a sense of direction that is at least pointed somewhere. It is only when you are aimless, that you wonder about where you're firing the arrow, and whether you should fire the arrow at all. 20 year employment in the same company that only ever kept you interested because of the status climb only to find yourself fired after your first day of being the CEO following the completion of your 20 years rising through the ranks, or perhaps you barely made it to middle management, and stayed because you were told your retirement would be taken care of only to forget the fineprint in the contract that said if you were fired, you wouldn't be entitled to it. They wanted someone younger and faster, not someone eaten up and spat out of their own company system, so they fired you and every other employee that was too old. Now you're directionless, now things are dangerous because prior, peoples sense of direction was handled in the same way military school provided them with a sense but not true essence of purpose to direct their lives. Many people have no idea what to do in these situations as they've spent most of their time just jumping from one predictable system that decided their purpose to the next, and now that AI is beginning to replace all those people to fill many of the outcomes of those systems, people are now forced to sit down, reduce their activity, and not press the release and eject button from life (suicide for many and suicide will go up following AI - so there's lots to empathise with here) and instead, take the time to sit down and contemplate, or perhaps start for example a project with fellow good people fired, or get back to more community based simple living. For some, now they'll have marriage and children, for others now they have more time for the family and children they already have. Purpose is not conscious, it is not even so much as a yearning, it is a calling, and you have to answer it if you want to live it, even when you're angry, depressed, ungrounded and ruminative after it has already illuminated itself to you. It doesn't have to be grand, ambitious, marvelous etc as its all advertised in traditional self-help, this is not for most people and when its marketed like this its setting people up for failure and at best all they get is a distorted perception of themselves, other people and the world around them. There is nothing wrong with living a simple life, community living, keeping yourself to farm life, or playing a violin alone for a few hours a day in a room while reminiscing on when say, someone's grandfather used to give them lessons. Purpose is simply about answering what's true, it isn't about what's consciously curated as much as it is what is already created within you to be receptive to in a state of balance, maturity and as much as possible, sense of peace and calm. Your calling may not always feel like fulfilment, it will often feel like struggle, but compared to the pursuit of anything else at the meaning level, where you most feel in balance, you will most likely feel like its the best thing you can do at the time, even if its just cleaning the dishes. We humans are not that special, nor that bad, and it is the balance in between that makes us more receptive to what calling, we need to answer. Listen to the calls, then consciously contemplate them very purposefully now that you're answering their probability, then decide on what you're going to pursue, and stay in the signal of that pursuit. If you hangup first, it'll listen, and it'll fade, and then without knowing it, blindsighted attention will leave you back where you started; so seize the moment. Act now, but without over-activity, instead under-activity, followed by discernment, then the answering, then the conscious curation, then the pursuit, and to have as enjoyable conversation as you can on the other end of the phone conversation. Its an intangible signal that all of us as sentient creatures tend to feel, even if that feeling lives behind the sense and or feeling of responsibility, love, deep thought, respect, dignity, pride, or even loyalty to a friend during a difficult life stage. People that make the right decisions when it comes to purpose, notice how they tend to make the right decisions in similar ways in other areas of their life; so when it comes to the biggest decisions of our lives, start with the smallest ones you can make and slowly graduate to bigger and bigger ones, then the largest ones will come with far greater ease and maturity. Otherwise, Mozart created some pretty spiralling music. But you don't have to be Mozart, you can just be a bunker on a street. Examine your motivations, align with the signal that actually reveals the truth between the practical reality and the sense of alignment. Best wishes.