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@phllip103 Oh, I was mistaken. Okay, just watch the layers and ask why every layer exists. Don't worry, they will end, you just need to be more stubborn than them.

@FoxFoxFox I think what you're describing is an enlightenment experience, not the enlightenment itself. I want to embody enlightenment, and I want it to stick with me forever, I don't care what the experience is.

The burger that has so many layers. Isn't that what this thread was about?

@FoxFoxFox if I chase enlightenment for happiness, that would be the ego. I chase it because I am genuinely curious to know what this life is all about.

I've been through the eckhart phase. My life right now is worse than ever before in materialistic terms. Yet, I'm happy, truly happy. And I wouldn't trade my happiness for anything in the world, or even for the whole world. In fact, I would sell myself to buy more happiness. Tell this to someone who is in pain, and then experience some pain, and then repeat it again. Stop playing dead while you're still alive, the choice is really there. I will ?, and thank you for this great conversation

@FoxFoxFox @Aakash Sure, only death can end all suffering. As long as you are a human being with survival needs, you won't be able to maintain 100% happiness all the time. To me, 99% happiness is enough. I don't want enlightenment for happiness, I want it for God-realisation.

What if I already have it? Of course, I'm not claiming that I can survive the worst situations possible and stay happy, I wouldn't bet on that. But, right now, I'm as far from suffering as any human being could be, fully surrendered to what is. I'm aware of how suffering is created, and I can choose to either avoid it, or accept it. I've achieved happiness by letting go of happiness.

@Shaun The point is not to stop this process, language and symbol is an inherent quality of the human mind. Instead, look closely and keep your attention on the actual appearance of the letters, not on the meaning that is generated by the mind. A word is just an appearance, a pointer, a signboard on the road, that's all you need to realise. The meaning is generated by you.

Not to sound smart or anything, but from my experience, surrendering only produces happiness. I don't see how it can make me realise Truth, but anyway, I'll keep on inquiring and find out.

I watched both videos. I agree with everything Sadhguru said. It all makes sense to me, and I'm not skipping the obvious, I've thought through all that, and came up with the same conclusions. What you (not you in particular) don't see is that you've bought the idea that we can't know anything. I haven't bought it yet, maybe I can't know, but also maybe I can. Maybe belief is all I can know, but notice how people here rage wars against beliefs. I believe some stuff, and I'm aware that I believe them, stop assuming that I'm a total noob. I appreciate life and the beauty of it, in fact, I love spending a lot of time outside in nature. I've achieved happiness, I can stop thinking almost whenever I want, and if I fail I can surrender myself to it. My questions are beyond just happiness, they're about security, if possible. That's all.

What is?

@David Hammond I have no clue what you're going through in your life right now. But I understand you, because I've been there. I hope you find peace very soon.

Yes, but I don't know any better for now. What would you do?

Yes. Yes, yes. I'll wait and see.

Frankly, that's the case. No ah-ha moments anymore, nothing surprises me anymore. I remember one of my biggest ah-ha moments when I was watching the first part of Leo's self-deception, I was quite shocked at how much I deceive myself. But that was like a year and a half ago. Now I realise stuff, and I'm like: "okay, so what?" I mean the things that I realised recently are quite radical to the average person, like I realised that I don't exist, and that everything is love, etc... But my reactions never are how I expect them to be. When I saw Leo crying as he was talking about God, I knew I'm missing something. Also, most of the stuff that teachers talk about make sense to me, it's like I'm not really sure that everything they say is true, but also I try to doubt them and I don't succeed. So, what is the problem? Or is that normal? What am I missing here? Is there a practice(s) for feeling more? My questions are not neurotic though, I don't know if they seem so, but I'm just double-checking my experience with yours. Even when I'm posting this thread, I'm like: "okay, so what?" @Leo Gura I would be grateful if you could shed some light on this.

If I could be certain of the story, that would make it the truth. And, well played!

Of why am I? I want a story. The story.

Yes. And the other story is that the real snake made the fear arise.

Absolute certainty.

I'm still practising, I haven't given up or come to conclusions. I'm just being honest with what I believe in the present moment, I surely want to discover that I am eternal, why would I not want that? Yes, I noticed that there was never a beginning, and that's why I say that truth is from truth's perspective. I don't trust my memories either, so the answer would be a belief. Hopefully not forever.

I'm not sure I understand your question perfectly. But to give a general answer, every answer to "why questions" is a story.

Why? I already know that I don't know. Letting go will produce happiness, which I am. Unless it produces other things, I don't want it right now.

I am aware of it, to me "I" means the ego. No I haven't, if I go under anaesthesia, I stop existing. How do I know that? I don't, but I have no other option than to believe that (yet). That's funny

The truth is the present moment, from the present moment's perspective. That's a belief.