Truth Addict

That's only true from the parents perspective. From the child's perspective though, fake love is great, that's why Santa exists. It's a sweet lie. It's not about Leo or me or anyone else. Leo himself does not want people to focus on him, he says that he's just an ordinary person all the time. Actualized.org forum is a society, I am interested in making it a better society for all, as we all are, I assume. It can get to even more advanced places in the future, possibly can turn into a real society, I would personally be so much honoured to be a member of such community. I want to help build it too. I like your new way of communicating ideas ? @DrewNows ?? Don't worry, don't rush. Everything will come and it will be perfect when it's time. Then I guess it's best to keep it running? You're contributing to this as well ? Fortunately, we're not in the dark ages anymore. We have the luxury of free speech.

@DrewNows Let's have you banned ? I consider you a friend and treat you accordingly. We have a history here.

@DrewNows You are definitely talking out of your ass! I didn't even remotely hint at that. Please stop assuming things about me. I am not outbursting.

@Dylan Page Science is not only good. It's great. I love science and I appreciate the efforts that people had put throughout history to deliver it to us. Blood had literally been spilled for us to enjoy the benefits of science today. It isn't the truth. Of course, as everything else. Instead of trying to convince your friends that science is not the truth, try to undermine their need to consider it truth. Perhaps Actualized.org is the one of the greatest tools for that. Try to introduce more relativity and doubt to the foundations of science. That can certainly deconstruct the belief that science is the answer.

I'd say it's half blue, quarter orange, quarter green. As for the thinkers, they're yellow and therefore very rare.

Don't get triggered. I only said that because I didn't want my suggestion to sound strong. I apologise for that. Please read the edit in my previous post if you haven't.

@Key Elements Again, what's the point in saying that? Is it about proving that you have experience? I didn't even remotely challenge that. Or is it about proving that I lack experience? Which I have clearly stated earlier. Back to our main topic: how do you think that locking threads will help more than cause damage? Here's a suggestion: instead of locking threads, PM the poster and gently clarify for them where they have gone wrong. They might take it less personally and remove the threads by themselves if that was hinted. In other words, create friends out of the members instead of creating enemies. Of course, you're free to reject my suggestion. I'd like to say also that locking threads subtly undermines the ability of all other members to determine what is beneficial for them and what is not, which is somehow disrespectful. Many times, certain members/mods (you're included) added to silly topics (imo) and made them very useful to me.

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@Key Elements I'm in 4th grade medical school. I have devoted my life to help others in every way I can. What's the point of your post? I honestly don't get it. Locking their threads is not the answer either.

@Jed Vassallo Really?! What if the host is very open-minded to other perspectives? What if they welcome other opinions? What if they are humble enough to accept other worldviews? You see? Honestly, we're lucky this place is Leo's not yours.

@Omni I would like you to reflect on the value of your post, and maybe post your own opinion of it objectively. @Pallero Thank you, these are some great suggestions. @DrewNows If there is not enough information, then judgements should be postponed by all of us. Or at least assume good intentions until proven otherwise. @Key Elements Mental illnesses are a very distinct thing. The posters don't know that they're ill. It can be good to gently point them to seek professional help if we suspect a serious problem. However, I was speaking for both mentally ill people and currently awakening people. And no, I haven't tried to help anyone with a severe mental illness, but I can only assume we're all different and unique and no two people has to be the same.

I agree. People need special care during awakenings. Emotions tend to get really unstable when huge paradigm shifts occur. We don't need a absolute certainty here. In my opinion, assumptions can be enough. I personally can assume with a success rate of 70-80% the place someone is coming from and respond accordingly. Some cases are pretty much obvious. Because I care for other people. Imagine someone with suicidal thoughts getting rejected and repressed even here. These are some great suggestions. I second them. Thank you.

@Pacific Sage I think it's because people forget about death and somehow unconsciously believe in immortality. I'm saying this because I know from my own experience. If I was immortal, I would have been the most selfish motherfucker there is. But since I'm not, then I prefer happiness in the present moment, which people tend to forget on their way to accomplish a delusional immortality. Most of the time, suffering equals survival, that's why.

@Leo Gura More compassion does no harm.

Yes, for the average person. But some people can be mentally unstable. I think those can be an exception, and should be treated more gently. Some cases can be easy to spot and some can be hard to.

@Jed Vassallo We're not "fighting". We're just contributing with our voices, just like you did.

@Leo Gura Of course you know better than I do. I have no experience in moderating. I was just giving an opinion because I noticed more excessiveness lately. Still, real-life school rules cannot be applied online mainly because here there is no fixed system that anyone is required to follow. I really appreciate everything you do. I hope sometime in the future you will create a real-life society and a real-life spiritual school ?

@Leo Gura Could you please elaborate on the low quality thing? Because I think even the most developed of us can find value in anything they read. I think if a thread doesn't contradict the guidelines of the forum, then it should be allowed.

@How to be wise I was the same. And I still live with my mother and father. Being unemployed and without real responsibilities and challenges almost equals a drug high. You probably wouldn't believe that, but I've been through that phase and I know how it works. I'm not saying that now I'm far from emotional mastery. In fact, I consider myself 90% master of my emotions. I'm just saying that circumstances affect how you feel and react, no matter how convincing it might seem to you right now. The remaining 10% is the hardest to achieve, and that's where the true test is. That's why it's called mastery, because almost nobody wants to spend energy on mastering this last 10%. Again, your case might be different, so all of this could be irrelevant for you.

@How to be wise Thanks for the replies. I was feeling the same as you described three months ago. I was unemployed and basically free all day all night. I have a job now, and I assure you, it's not the same. I mean, yes, all the mindfulness work, self-inquiry, meditation, and contemplation, etc... are great, and they help. But when shit hits the fan, that's where you truly test yourself. I'm talking about the practical life. It's easy to be emotionally detached when you're not really playing the game of survival. But it gets harder when your ego is at stake. I can only speak for myself and about my experiences though. I can't speak for you, your case might be different. I'm still struggling with emotions to this day, although I felt like I had mastered them during my unemployment phase. Bottom line is that you might want to consider what I said here just in case.

@How to be wise I understand what you said in your original post. The questions that come to mind though are: Have you really put your mastery into test? What are the emotional challenges that you consider yourself a master of? What is the level of mastery that you consider yourself to be at? Full mastery of all emotions? Some and some? I'm asking all of these questions because I wouldn't think of myself as a master of my emotions unless I am 100% sure. Of course, you don't necessarily have to answer any of them.

@Inder I prefer using the term imagination instead of ego. I think it's more direct. Do you not think imagination is helpful for survival? However, and since imagination is very flexible, it can get so "wrong" (meaning not identical to reality) and then create all sorts of illusions. Not only that, but also since imagination "seems" like reality, it can be confused for it, because better maps are more likely to be confused with the territory. Add on top of that that reality is non-linear and it doesn't have to obey any laws whatsoever, even the most fundamental physical and mathematical laws can change at any moment. The point is that nothing is guaranteed with imagination, we can only gamble. But the consequences can vary from physical death to living the dream. So, I think it's worth the bet. As for thoughts and suffering, thoughts are not "the biggest" cause of suffering. Be very careful here because it contains the clue to how to stop suffering. Suffering is not caused directly by the thoughts. Thoughts are a stairway either to heaven or to hell. The trick is that the stairway is one, but the one who's going up is different in each case. Suffering stems from not accepting reality as it is. Sometimes reality is mere thoughts, and you'd have to accept that in order not to suffer. The most important thing here is to develop more awareness of the present moment.

@How to be wise If you don't mind answering. How old are you? What is your daily schedule? What do you do for a living?

I agree on the part that Inliytened1 starts non-duality wars. I don't think he's a troll though. I think he's a nice guy who wants to share his wisdom with others. Umar_uk was emotionally troubled, and he used the forum to melt down. That's not what the forum is about. We're not psychiatrists, and he needed one.

@LiberatedMonkey Well, first of all, that is quite a feat, I couldn't stand sitting still for one hour. So, respect! Secondly, the body 'emits' certain amounts of energy all the time. The feeling of burn is your body giving out energy just as usual, only that time it was intense because you weren't spending it on any kind of activities, and it had to get out of 'you' in a certain way which in your case was a 'fire' sensation. If you want to get benefits from this practice, I suggest learning more about Yoga and Chakras. These practices teach you how to control your bodily energy and how to move it from one place to another, both inside and outside the body.