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@Schahin If it's accompanied with suffering, then it's egoic. There's nothing wrong with ego per se, except that it's just a limited perspective, not the whole view. The question is: to what extent are we able to see reality beyond our personal biases? Of course, the more the better for both the individual and the collective. An enlightened person acts from love and acceptance. An enlightened person can choose to change things for the better. Of course, the more aware and educated that enlightened person is, the more efficient they are at creating a better world.

The only way out is in. You can't face fear with more thinking. Break that cycle with courage.

@Kushu2000 The emotional states that psychedelics put you in are no ordinary states. They provides you with satisfaction, courage, confidence, etc... Facing death is not as easy as it is on psychedelics, especially for the ordinary person. Just because someone died on psychedelics or in any other way of ego death, doesn't remove all the programming and old patterns that they have. That has to do with the shadow. P.S. I have no experience with psychedelics, but I experience similar states regularly through meditation.

@Nivsch Meditation is observation. Meditation aims at better understanding of the self, just like science aims at better understanding of the universe. The short term effects might differ, and those should also be noticed and noted, by being aware, in order to understand the self. The ultimate goal is to know the self, by increasing awareness. That can only happen through careful observation, aka meditation.

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@TheAvatarState Aren't psychedelics relative as well? Isn't music sacred just as much?

Become your best friend instead of (by default) being your own worst enemy. "Know thyself". Know your authentic self. When you succeed in that, you will have both happiness and meaningfulness altogether.

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Yes, but not just a push. It lasts for a minute or more. Also it feels like a circle, probably not a perfect one.

Reading this thread stimulated my third-eye chakra. I have no idea what that means.

Die.

You're free to not believe me. I am happy either way. And maybe that definition is flawed. Because to me, it clearly doesn't represent reality. To me, to desire is to just feel wanting, regardless of the consequences.

@Pouya 'Everything' includes this perspective as well. It's like saying that everything is imagination including this claim. Hello strange-loops! ? How to escape strange-loopery? That is the question.

I am happy with my desires and with everything I have. True. The verse is referring to an inauthentic egoic desire (greed). Desires that aren't authentic are against reality, therefore create resistance, therefore create suffering. Authentic desires don't make you suffer. But you have to first know yourself. I don't know any better way to explain this. I hope it penetrates. Meditation is the way.

The answer is beyond the conventional understanding. An enlightened person has no control over their desires, just like ordinary people. The difference is that the enlightened person enjoys their desires by getting along with them instead of trying to suppress/avoid/kill them. An enlightened person is 100% authentic. They have no problem expressing themselves, and that includes their desires. Look at a tree (or a dog), it is enlightened. Does that make it stop growing? A tree is just being itself, completely at peace, having no resistance whatsoever. It takes whatever reality gives to it, because it knows that it is reality. And as for the quotes, the Buddha is talking about transcending the desires, not killing them.

Love you too ? Yeah, you're totally right. "Same page" was just an unconscious expression. We're already on the same infinite page of magic ?

Nope. Resistance is the source of suffering. Not desire. Desire whatever you desire and accept it, and you will be at bliss. Try to kill your desires while they're actually there, and suffer tremendously. Suffering stems from conflict, two things going against each other (mind/heart vs reality). When the mind/heart aligns itself with reality, there will be no suffering at all.

@Schahin At some point, you will stop needing to know, and then start to accept whatever is without no reason or story.

You wouldn't have seen me here if that wasn't the case

@Nahm I understand that you're coming from a loving place with the best of intentions. But that doesn't mean you can continue a conversation with a different context. You probably need to re-read the conversation before going any further. That's conflating the relative with the absolute. "Greatest life possible" makes sense only in certain contexts, but not the absolute context. Your communication with me makes sense only in the relative context. Otherwise, there would be no communication. No, I'm not. I'm aware of who I am. Yes yes, super obvious stuff. Even saying it's consciousness or eternal is not precisely correct, it's just a pointer to what is, and language is limited. I never even hinted at meaninglessness. I'm living a blissful and meaningful life. But it's on the other side of meaninglessness, and I had to go through it to arrive at where I'm at now. It was part of my path, as I now am able to see it part of others' paths as well. The thing that I was trying to point out to others is the egoic attachment and clinging to the parts, that you should do this or that. It's an obstacle on the path towards liberation, perhaps the hardest chain to break, because it worked well so far for someone. One has to let go of everything, including the teaching of letting go and the letting go itself in order to become liberated. I hope we're on the same page my dear and lovely friend ❤️

Okay, but would the answer affect your life? I mean what's the difference? It's just language and semantics, symbols and pointers. They don't affect reality (you) unless you let them do.

That's flat out wrong. Enlightenment = no more suffering as a human being. It has nothing to do with your desires. Meditate.

But then you would have to use brainwashing techniques in order to market your products unless you're not planning on marketing them. sidenote: I really enjoy reading your posts, but I find them hard to comprehend, maybe because English is not my first language, and maybe because you use sophisticated terms that are rarely used, maybe both, and some other factors, I don't know. I also wouldn't want you to change for me or for anyone, in fact I like the way you write. Somehow my subconscious started to absorb it and maybe copycat it. I was just trying to figure out the reason behind me having hard times making sense of sophisticated language. And I want to learn, maybe you could suggest some tips if you have the time.

@Hardkill It seems to me like you're afraid of taking risks and trying to perfect the map that you plan on using. I think this has to do with being a perfectionist (Leo has a video on perfectionism). Be bold, try, make mistakes, fail, learn from your mistakes and failures, change your plans, get your hands dirty, etc... Success arises from failures. Don't be that guy who makes a perfect plan then not do anything with it. Perhaps that is the case, perhaps not. I'm just assuming.

@How to be wise @Conrad @Angelite Hadith qudsi means a revelation from Allah to Mohammad while, in opposition to the Quran, Mohammad is free to use his own words and language to communicate it. The Quran must be communicated in the exact same words, no more no less. Or so they claim. @Inliytened1 Are you aware of how confusing these kinds of answers are? Plus, do you realise how useless these kinds of answers are? What's the point of answering if the answer makes no sense? My suggestion is to at least make some effort to put your answers in a context where they could start being valuable to the reader instead of just trying to communicate them through a linear logical approach. To me, it becomes a form of mental masturbation. I'm saying that with no intent to bother you. Much love and respect for you David ❤️ @Schahin I too am excited to hear what Leo has to say about this topic. The way I see it is not a logical form of understanding, but more of a realistic/pragmatic understanding. From observing reality, I realised no free will. The way I see it is that it is the ultimate freedom that a human being could get. Think about it, if I have no free will, but then the thing that controls the whole universe and keeping balanced through everything, creating life from death and causing death from life, etc... With deep observation, it becomes obvious that this universe is infinitely intelligent and loving. Now, if that is the case, then I am free to do whatever I want. I have the ultimate freedom because I am blessed and protected by infinite love, infinite intelligence, and infinite goodness. No free will is an advantage, not a limitation. It's a feature, not a bug.