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@tsuki That was not what I meant. What I meant to say was that if love is the essence of everything, then it does not matter to love whether someone follows it or not, because it is inevitable and always the case. There's no duality in Love. Love loves all, including suffering and delusion. The only way hatred can exist is by limiting Love. So, the question is: are you aware that that's just your ego and how it likes to view Love and manipulate it to achieve certain goals? Not saying that anything is wrong with that, just a question of awareness. @Jack River You still haven't answered my question: What do you mean by the word "imaginary"?

To me, that's just a thought. What is knowledge but maps? I like the territory a lot more.

@DrewNows ?

@tsuki There is no mystery, and there is. Depending on how you look at it. The present moment is also plain, clear, and simple. I don't view love as a rule. That would make love both limited and a limitation. I view love as the highest order, or as the essence before rules and before everything else we might call "creation". @Jack River You still haven't answered my question: What do you mean by the word "imaginary"?

I'll take this cue and leave before Mandy throws her laptop at me.

Although I don't disagree with that, but I think contemplation is a better practice here. It's like saying that every liquid is water when there's no real distinction between water and other liquids. There is still a practical difference. Nope. I'm already diving deep enough, I guess. I don't feel like I need more. Just keep in mind that all answers are ultimately thoughts about the present moment, which is not to say they're not part of it.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean. Feels like I'm going to leave again

Perhaps it goes full-circle. Perhaps it's not black or white. For what I know, there's no causation in the present moment.

@tsuki Look, I'm not disagreeing with you. I also don't like the idea of being completely indifferent. Yet, I still sense this sort of clinging that is happening on your part, which does not necessarily have to be happening in all others as well, or at least maybe in different degrees. I sense that you're still under the spell of paradigms, meaning that you think that they're just as fundamental as the raw being. Consider that in a fight or flight response, there's no need for paradigms, the raw being does it all, without the interference of thought. Worry, or don't. Everything is as it should be.

By letting go of life, surrendering to death. By dying. Assuming there's no possible way to feed oneself.

Hmmm ? I thought ignorance was bliss.

Idealism also is just another extreme. I prefer going meta.

What does dangerous mean?

@mandyjw I'm not sure why. But I can still make visits.

@tsuki Maybe. I sensed a clinging on your side, that's why I said so.

@tsuki You yet have to collapse the distinction between thought and reality. After that, things will become much clearer to you.

@Barna Why are you still practising self-inquiry? Like what? And how do you know?

What do you mean by the word "imaginary"?

How does your perception of yourself feel different every time you try to capture it? First, it was something that you called "the present moment". Then, it's become an inquiry. Then, curiosity. I think that there's still a process of conceptualizing that is happening in the background, and it's so sneaky that it doesn't appear on the radar. What is happening other than what is happening?

Do not try to find conceptual answers for who/what you are. That's not how you do self-inquiry, but rather how you distract yourself. Focus more on the sensation of the self. Try to pin down the one that is asking questions, not conceptually, but actually. Who is asking questions about questions? Who is the one that wants to know? ... However, you can contemplate the nature of questions on another time. What about the thoughts? The mind? The relationship between thought and reality? Do you already know what those things are? How about what is an answer?

In general, a question is a part of the process of creating a distinction (duality). The process would be like: Awareness of the distinction. Understanding the distinction (asking questions). Implementing the understanding (answering the questions). Another definition would be that a question is you (awareness) limiting itself in order for you to get specific outcomes. Example: scientific research. Another definition would be that a question is you (awareness) trying to identify something as something else, trying to identify sensation as thought, trying to create a (better) map for the territory. Example: existential inquiry.

Lose all seriousness.

The nature of one is two. The nature of two is one. ☯️

I've been on fire for a few days now. My energy levels are at max, I'm dancing most of the time lol. My happiness levels are at max, I cried a couple of times from ecstasy. My resistance levels are at zero, I'm flowing with life. Yesterday, I started contemplating the question: "what is a lie?", and then posted the question in a thread here. I got some replies, none of which was really satisfying, so I kept contemplating the question further, until I've finally arrived at the conclusion, and that is, lies are literally impossible except if I create and believe them, there's nothing but the truth, and whatever I believe in becomes the truth. So, I contemplated those conclusions as well, until at some point it clicked! The materialist paradigm melted away like it's the most absurd thing to believe in. Why in the world would reality be made of anything or obey certain rules? Those contemplations are nothing new to me, I understand them intellectually, but that glimpse was definitely beyond the intellect, it was the dissolution of the intellect so to speak. It's like the materialist paradigm is deeply rooted in my subconscious, that even though I know on the conscious level that it's flawed, but I still operate from it on the subconscious level. So, by contemplating the conclusion that whatever I believe becomes the truth, it's like I reached the point where I forgot that paradigm like it never was. The experience lasted for nearly 30 seconds, and a lot of things started to make sense after that. Here are some of my realisations during and after the experience: Everything is Infinitely Intelligent. There's no doership, and no ownership. There are no rules binding reality. Fire does not burn, everything is synchronised at every single moment to make it seem so, and so on with everything else. The rules exist when you believe they exist, so they appear to be first order, where in fact they're second order. I am God. No more doubt about that. Identity shift. A human being that is God. God in a limited form. Now I understand what that means. It was like I died or like I had never been born. Everything is divine. I don't know how to communicate this. It's like every single event in my entire life was finely selected by Infinite Intelligence. The movie analogy fits very well here. Everything is perfect and there's nothing to fear. Related to the previous insight. The question of "why am I in limited intelligence mode?" arose after the experience. I don't really have any answers yet. But I intuit that it's not possible for God to know itself without limiting itself. This answer feels right, but I'm not sure. Religion is backwards! Although it's not all backwards, it's just that its cons are more than its pros. Because clear-cut answers are what prevents people from awakening. How so? Because people hear the answers, and then they talk about them all the time until they get absorbed into the subconscious without them noticing. Answers are in thought form, but the infinite God is of no form. The way towards the unlimited God requires losing the answers, but that requires a lot of questioning, or I don't know, a lot of luck maybe. Although I don't think it's really necessary for everyone to know the infinite God. Is the materialist paradigm wrong? No. And it's not true either. In the regular state, it seems to work perfectly without glitches. In the heightened state, it flies out of the window. Is the regular state illusory? No. It's God taking specific routes, limiting itself to form. Is the unlimited state illusory? Absolutely not. One little glimpse of Infinity is enough proof of infinity. Because if you become infinite once, then that means that infinity exists and that it isn't a concept. Is duality true? Does God exist in two different states? No. God is all the different states in the present moment. God is one, whatever It is. I don't know how I got here. I didn't see that coming. A lot of things have become crystal clear. I'm not exactly excited for more, but it would certainly be nice to have more glimpses and to understand more about the Formless God. Of course, I'm operating right now from the materialist paradigm. Thanks for reading, and thank you Leo for everything ❤️

I no longer belong here. I'm leaving.