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Which one? ?? I love arguing with you. You make very good points.

Be careful not to project your values on Mohammad. He was not a hippie nor a Sufi. He had a lot of wealth, and he wasn't ashamed of it. I don't care how he used it. He was wealthy. Period. He started poor, and died rich.

I have to skip today's run. My body is exhausted after more than 9 hours of work yesterday besides the run and the one hour of walking. I don't want to exhaust myself even more. I have another more than 9 hours of work today as well. But today I finish painting the room, so I'll be free after that, I'll get back to my usual 5-6 hours of work.

@Leo Gura What is the relationship between being enlightened and being non-dogmatic? I don't think the two are even related at all. To me, being non-dogmatic is just another dogma. (not kidding). You can’t escape dogma. If you could, then you'd be separate from reality. If you could, then there would be duality.

@Angelite Do you not believe the Quran? Your answer is in the verse 93:8 Or you can do some research about his life. And no, I am NOT a Muslim.

lmao ?

I understand that. That all is still in the domain of the rational mind, something abstract, which I personally consider mental masturbation. What I was trying to point out to you is beyond that, don't let the simplicity trick you. That's actually a very good example of how deceiving the spiritual paradigm is. You think that what you wrote is actually true, when in fact it isn't. It only seems true from inside the paradigm that you're operating from right now. If you look at it from the meta perspective, you'll start to see glitches in the matrix. That's a definition that exists only in dictionaries. Does it actually exist in your direct experience of the present moment though? Can you point to one thing in the present moment that appears and seems one way but its actual condition is another? Be careful with your answers. These are deal-breaker questions. If you knew the answers, you would have already been enlightened.

You will not regret this, trust me

Why? There's nothing wrong with material success and pleasure. It's just Sufis and hippies (stage Green) who despise the material aspect of life.

@kieranperez I see, and I apologise for how I come off usually. If you're interested in further discussion, here's some: What is a 'relative' thing? How is relativity even possible? What does it mean to call something 'true'? No disagreements here. Although the underlying assumption that 'something isn't absolutely true' is itself a mere assumption. To me, the spiritual paradigm is a collection of schools of thought, that are mixed in together, or, roughly speaking, only one single school of thought. Any of which, is imprinted in the students as the right and true pointers towards Truth or God or something like that. I think that the spiritual paradigm is the biggest obstacle before liberation, as one would have to kill 'their' Buddha, which is the most precious thing they have, and the thing that has gotten them this far. Of course, that's my spiritual paradigm, it's part of the teaching and learning process, and it's just a pointer. After that, it's no longer necessary. I would specifically be cautious with the words used here, especially the word 'illusion' and its derivatives. What is it in your experience that you call an illusion? Is illusion even possible? If so, how? Exactly! ? Why call it illusion in the first place? Could that be the exact same case with everything else that you don't consider illusory? That's your right, brother. I'm not judging anything, just simply trying to help. I apologise again for my arrogance and ignorance.

Rich in money, slaves, wives, cattle, and properties.

Oh, you don't know.

Egoic fear is not a survival mechanism for the body. It's rather a survival mechanism for the ego. This distinction is very important.

Really?! I honestly haven't read the file yet ?

Realise that everything you said is inside the spiritual paradigm. And that none of it is actually true.

That's awesome Leo!

@khalifa Very simple. Spiral Dynamics explains it very well. That's the difference between Turquoise and Green. The difference is not in the degrees of enlightenment, but in the degrees of cognitive development. If you read about Mohammad, it's clear to see that he was very nuanced. He has characteristics of Purple, Red, Blue, Orange, Green, Yellow, and Turquoise. There was a lot of integration within and between his psyche and behaviour. He himself wasn't dogmatic at all, but the people he lived with all were otherwise. Yet, he succeeded in using their dogmas and way of thinking to spread his message. The guy was definitely a legend. He started from zero, and created Islam out of nothing. He started broke and alone, and he ended up rich and a loved husband, father, and leader. He was definitely beyond Sufis altogether.

It was a surprisingly good run! I've made it to 20 minutes and was able to go further. I stopped because I'm cautious of the after-workout pain/tenderness (I don't know what it's called in English). I don't understand. I started to develop breathlessness but then it's easy to make it to 20 minutes! WTF?! Maybe because I usually walk for one hour a day? I should install an app on my phone so that I can record my average speed while running. My best record was three years ago, I guess. It was about 3.1 meters per second for 30 minutes. Anyway, yeah, it feels refreshing but not like it used to do. It used to make me high when I exhaust myself. Maybe I should? Then again, I'm high all the time. I'll post my record of the next run, probably tomorrow.

Yesterday, I got motivated to start practising running again. Today, I'm going for my first run since over two months. I've lost stamina. I'm probably not going to last even 15 minutes. But hey, better late than never, right? Let's go!

??? @kieranperez You can seek or you can know. You're a seeker as long as you make yourself to be. So long you have higher authorities, you don't get it.

If this was a video game, I swear next time I will read the license agreement! ?

This: Distinction. Duality.

@Nahm Exactly! Because how can a pointer point to itself? Okay, I'll try. I'll use some pointers: There's the distinction between thought and reality that you're still creating. This distinction itself is a thought. So, you're still practically practising duality without even knowing. Or, it seems so to me from what you've written before. @zeroISinfinity

No. I'm not saying that. I'm not even seeking to get answers. I'm trying to cause an apocalypse. Something meta, something beyond explanation.

Pretty much stage Green understanding of Islam. Mohammad was the Turquoise of his era. He understood how society worked back then and played their game and won it. The guy was a legend. You gotta be very nuanced to see how advanced he was. Sufis are no match for him. It's hard, or nearly impossible, to say if the Quran was manipulated or not. There are many doubts about that, and many of them seem reasonable. One should read between the lines.