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@Shmurda Couldn't be more accurate. Stage Green does it from a balanced, non-manipulative perspective as well. But the above is quite common as well and is definitely worth highlighting.

Think of it like this. In choosing not to get paid you are choosing to donate what you earn. (To the organization allowing it to function or to the people who benefit from the organisation) the personal responsibility/skills/mindet etc. are not transcended. The earning is not transcended. You are just donating it basically. You can try applying for a job (even at a Non-profit) telling them you will work for free. It is specifically, for this reason, they will not hire you. People who hit employers/organizations telling them they will work for free usually cost more than the paid position itself due to losses in efficiency, personal responsibility, productivity(money), etc. This is a nice experiment, do try it. It is precisely for this reason that many potential Mentor-Mentee relationships fail as well, because of this misconception of the newbie when he tells the mentor that he will work for "free". The Mentor or the experienced person knows how much will "free" actually cost him or his organisation or his investors or various other stakeholders.

You may choose to not get paid. But the skills and personal responsibility relating to generation or making money are basically the same nonetheless. This may be minimized somewhat by living frugally, but even then it basically remains the same. If you minimize it too much by living too frugally it may look like this need is transcended but in doing so basically all of LP is destroyed so that misses the point anyways. Would you like to give an example of such an LP? Maybe I can understand it better from that.

Case in point. You gotta look at this beneath the surface.

@Preety_India Please elaborate and be specific. Joining again requires making an income. That part is not transcended just by joining an organization. They will pay you. What do you exactly mean by opening a fund? Why will someone give you money if you are opening a fund? That requires making money. Learning business strategy, marketing, persuasion, solving problems in the market etc. Some Non-profits require even more business sense to operate than an avg. business, so... You don't leave the market by opening a fund, the work is still done within it. LP is focused on Meaning, Contribution, Mastery, and Growth. Strategy and Money are optimized for those and for living well. Is there a reason you find eliminating money appealing or is it a means to an end?

@Preety_India How will you do charity without making money? Two key components of Life Purpose: 1. The satisfaction of creative contribution/impact and sharing your greatest gifts with the world. On top of this the element of Mastery as well. 2. Personal Meaning. In charity work usually, both are missing. Like planting trees, distribution of clothes, and donating time in a soup kitchen, etc. are all good but people are not really passionate about it or have some personal meaning attached to it. Those activities don't meet the first criteria above as well.

@Carl-Richard The latter one is clearly incorrect as a majority of the billionaires did not inherit their wealth. The solution for those who did inherit a lot of wealth is proper inheritance tax at the time of inheritance, not showing up after decades of growth, value and innovations created by the person on top of the inherited wealth and claiming "YoU aRE NoT SelFmAdE" or "it wAs OuR WeALtH". If you can be more specific about your first point...

@SQAAD You said Billionaires, not CEOs. Universe of a difference. Even then whole management and political systems would have to be changed to create sustainable change. Most CEOs are proactive whereas a lot of management is not, you are talking about change in 10s of millions of people. Heck, in many industries if the CEOs changed they would be fired by management. It kind of sucks. That is why people looking to make change should carefully choose better industries for themselves. Even then there are natural constraints. Don't forget 70 million people voted for Trump in the latest election. Since this reality is constructed or based in many people it is not possible for one sub holon to change it the way you are probably expecting to. Regarding your second point, you need to be more clear as there is no confusion between ruthlessness and intelligence. Not sure why you got that impression. Maybe it is because of my reference to the protection tendency of psychopaths? A more nuanced version of this would be protection in excess is excessive self-preservation leading to harm to others and oneself. In deficiency, this leads to self-harm/loss and harm/injustice to one's family, employees, etc. In balanced or middle it is protection. We don't want excessive or deficiency. The insight is that it is still one spectrum, not 3 separate things, and seeing it as such leads to a more nuanced understanding of the situation. It also leads to more skillful ways of positively changing the system, like a surgeon instead of a butcher In my previous post by protection I referred to the whole spectrum, did that lead to confusion? Will keep that in mind next time. My subconscious assumed you would clearly see which nuances I am referring to given the context, plus you yourself mentioned spectrum in your original post, my bad.

@Carl-Richard I don't get it. It's not clear enough. huh?

Love you bro, take care

I doubt it. I don't agree that it would be a lot better as you are emphasizing. Perhaps @Leo Gura would like to touch upon it. Regarding your title question, I believe that people with high intelligence (or even IQ) after a threshold point no longer need to have psychopathic traits in order to protect themselves or function(any form of function) in complex social/business situations.

@aurum I love good engineering. Is there any specific design (or part of a design) you are referring to? I gotta research his designs. Sounds interesting.

@aurum Thank you for the reply.

It is not Yellow. It gets many fundamentals wrong. Including fantasies of re-education of people. People don't work that way. Yellow understands this. Just using technology or basic planning does not make it Yellow. Plenty of Orange/Green does it in innovative ways. I would put it as Orange/Green. With more Orange integration needed. For eg. the issue of outside resource dependency still requires people there to face the same survival issues as the outside. Whether it is labeled such or not is irrelevant.

https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/2019/09/13/why-i-left-the-venus-project/#:~:text=As I got older and,I could do about it. Nice article about systemic problems of projects like these along with personal experiences for the same. There are systemic issues that are ignored leading to the failure in such projects. The founder has fantastical ideas about skipping stages in both external survival issues and internal psychological development with "education". The "education" one especially always fails in the real world. People don't work that way in the real world. Auroville was founded 50 years ago. To this date, it is failing in most of the key areas due to the same systemic problems outlined in the article. Quality of life is still not good after 50 years, unable to attract more people or make it sustainable. A recurring theme enabling to observe some key principles.

@Leo Gura Something looks fishy. For the other stages, the problem is of non-integration of the lower stages. But when it comes to saving your own set of values it is not enough spiral wizardry skill now? Are you saying this in the narrow context of MAGA or the broader contexts in which this problem is common?

@aurum are you planning to shift there in the near future?

@Preety_India Given your medical history, I believe there is only one way. Visualize your main specific goals (max 3) for 15 min. straight, for a period of 90 days, to rewire your subconscious. This is from Leo's LP course. You cannot miss it even for one day no matter what. Do it for 90 days consistently. It will fail if you skip it for even just 1 freakin' day. If you think you are about to die tomorrow still take the time to do this 15 min. exercise, just in case. At your current point in life, I believe that it will increase your productivity by 3-4 times. About 95 percent probability of success. Allow you to be productive for about 3-4 hours daily consistently for your chosen goal. (5 percent uncertainty is for trauma and depression-related conditions which are hard to predict). You can build the critical fundamentals as outlined by other people in this thread on top of this. Don't skip the 15 min. routine though.

@Nahm LOL. Good one.

@MarineNice to see someone interested in Tech. I like Elon Musk's implementation of what you are saying. Using reusable rockets.

I do believe in you. If that helps. I did have some exercises or tools but I don't think you are looking for that.

Why do you believe her now? any trigger?

@Preety_India Why do you believe that she was right?