Faceless

Your doing fine man.??

The wanting a constant state of bliss implies that you dont already have it. You feel you don’t have that now and that the future will offer it to you. Your inviting conflict by accepting the illusion of psychological time. You have invited time to capture that which is timeless. You have invited the illusion to satisfy an illusion which leads to perpetual illusion and conflict. Thought/ego seeks psychological security. So if you are seeking/maintaining this movement to self secure you are inventing insecurity as the result. To seek in any direction brings the other possibility ‘it’s opposite’ into being. Seeking ‘the good’ creates the possibility of ‘the bad’ coming into being. Just like seeking pleasure implies the pain of not maintaining that pleasure or never even getting it. When we seek an illusion we inevitably suffer the consequences. You create the very consequences. Your seeking security and bringing about insecurity as the result.

Lol It’s ok. Just bookmark it. Come back to it periodically. I’m just writing to anyone who is interested. I don’t expect this to get thorough to you now. As you have to see it for yourself. No words will show you this. You have to explore yourself. That’s all you need. ?

“If” observation is free of the observer, being the absense of memory, knowledge, and past experience and it’s influences, then that is what we call awareness or direct perception acting/working within the stream of thought which can act holistically without deliberation of thought as it’s determining factor. So that would be an action free of the conditioned field of thought, therefore thought not deciding but the whole or awareness deciding or not deciding ‘action/non action’.... If their is any choice involved which is the movement of thought/volition then this implies that is not ‘awareness’ but is gathered through self awarness ‘thought/self’ acting in according to its own content and own movement of psychological becoming ‘time’ So if their is a direct perception without choice/decision, this is awareness/intelligence, and that which is a whole movement or total/complete action. In this their is no choice or decision. In this the perception is the action. No choice/decision at all. Only action/non-action. If their is an observation that has introduced choice to be decided upon that decision, this leads to an action born of thought/volition/self which is limited, finite, incomplete, not whole. This choice/decision is bound by subjectivity and the movement volition/self interest or personal agenda, which is determined by ones conditioning ‘the stream of thought’.. So to answer that question. The chooser/decider answers and decides. So at that point the self/thought decides not awareness itself. But the decider is the decided. Just like the experiencer is the experienced, the observer is the observed, and the thinker is the thought. This is what comes to ‘my’ mind when symbolizing this movement, ⭕️....In thought the cause and the effect are the same. This also relates to the illusion of cause and effect and free will. Unless you stand outside this circle and can observe free from its boundaries ‘the observer,’ and see this holistically their is not ever a decision that is free from the one who decides which is thought. To be able to stand outside and observe the whole of thought in its totality is the beginning of action that is without choice/decision. Total perception is action. That to is the cause and the effect. Perception ‘whole’ implies whole action not according to any conditioned pattern such as the limited and finite nature of thought/self/psychological time.

I feel it’s very important to start with the immediate barrier and not jump ahead in asking such a question. So I think for someone to jump to awarness which may be at that moment an ‘idea’ to them should be discarded totally temperaraly. Start with thought and as such will be revealed. Like pealing an onion.

As far as which thoughts are decided upon?

Yeah. From my experiencing/non experiencing, awareness free from self ‘psychological time’ has no point of view actually but sees holistically. Point of view is totally absent. Infact in this timelessness ‘the knower’ or I am not which imples I am all or the whole. It’s an ‘unrecognizable sense of non experiencing.’

I understand but that is a movement of psychological time ‘self’ so it will continue to operate according to its own self sustaining system which is it’s very function. So if you are not aware of time ‘volition’ determining every movement the their is no attention actually. Thought is so tricky that it will trick itself into thinking it is not thinking and moving independent of thought.

It’s the movement of concentration that maintains the illusion You may not get any of this now. I would book mark it now and as you begin to get it you will be like oh yeah now I see?

You have to pay attention? otherwise thoughts go unnoticed. Thought likes innatention.

Overwhelmingly overwhelming?? Lol

So is the ego/self. ego “the i” with ‘its thoughts’ is born out of the stream of thought

@cetus56 ???

@Ether Thoughts are the response of memory, knowledge, and past experience.

The capacity to recollect/remember. Which is what thoughts are born from. Driven by psychological time.

Or do you see the nature or questions and answers. psychologicaly that is?

Also when you see that all thoughts flow out of the stream of thought. When you think it’s your thought, rethink. Thought is not yours or mine, but is just thought.

When these questions entered the psychological realm ‘to maintain and sustain security of the self’ is where all the conflict came in. Then organized religion came into being which further perpetuated psychological suffering and confusion/conflict. This all started when “we” demanded answers to sooth the psyche. And out of those assumed, limited, and finite answers was born such questions asked today.

Do you see the significance of this?? Its quite important

@Ether this question of is their a heaven and hell is the result of imposed answers through the ages. All questions are the result of past conceptualizatios. This is a fact. That’s the way thought works.

What I have suggested you investigate yesterday and today will show you the limits of your investigation, why you want to investigate, and you may see the significance of insight/perception that is not born of the limited stream of thought. The heaven and hell jive will make total sense if you actually inquire/investigate with all your energy, which implies freedom from time. That’s why I suggest you watch that video on psychological time and grasp what is said deep down in your bones. Then their may be a freedom to inquire without the self ‘fear’ altering your investigation. For me first their was freedom then such inquiry was possible. If you are not free yet theirs no chance....To me it seems this must be actually so. Anyway asking others questions will never suffice. That’s the beauty of it?

That’s a cool one man. Be a cool shirt logo

Yeah? That which is static can never capture that which is dynamic??

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If you are free of time you won’t feel enslaved. Are you dong something you don’t like which you consider a sacrifice for an intended means to an end? Do you enjoy what you do? For me personally I may be to rooted in the timeless to much, but I like it?.. I am floaty now days and don’t think to much forward or backwards. I am present and aware of each movement and respect and cherish this awareness. My purpose is as such. I personaly see the importance of a centerless exsistence. Although I am passionate about mind/body harmony. This is not about money or a future. I would do it no matter what. If you want a balance between time and the timeless I have noticed that people like @Joseph Maynor and @Leo Gura and more would be a great people to ask about that. They seem to be headed in that direction. I may be wrong though. I don’t know if time has ended for them. This is assumed from what I read on their posts. I like to share about the nature of thought, self, and psychological timeI. Im mostly concerned about total mind/body health and sharing the timeless realm with others the best I can. To me relationships with oursleves, others and with the totality of organism/environment is all important. This is my purpose that was realized the day I lost my head.