Carl-Richard

Hahaha he is going through the "glazing" blog post he made

Did Wilber mention anything about this alone self that was spatially bound?

Is Ken Wilber's circle spatially bound?

The journey of going from the "alone" to the "Alone" is to go from the small circle (which is hard to communicate between, hence a feeling of aloneness there) to the big circle (which is only One, hence an even more profound sense of aloneness).

What did he say? Let me also clarify that the larger circle is not spatially bound (it's infinite).

Wilber (small circle on the podium) is telling the other small circles in the audience how it's possible to experience yourself as the big circle and feeling alone in that because there is only one big circle. That doesn't mean the smaller circles are all empty. They are still within the same larger circle. In that sense, the larger circle is imagining them. The problem is that the smaller circles are largely separate, so it's hard to communicate between them, and certainly to communicate things about the bigger circle.

Then there is no awareness behind your eyes either.

He is interested enough to have an interesting discussion about it. He has had some discussions with philosophers, and some touched on metaphysics.

Gary's experiences resonates very much with my own path. It's really about the attachments.

You suggest the most unlikely people 😂

You say you see the truth in her religion: What is it that you don't see and disagree with her about? What is it that makes her think you need to be converted?

Be aware of framings like "manipulation". These techniques also help you. You could frame what the PSE guy is doing as manipulating you to think that they're manipulating you. But of course, I'm not fully aware of all their specific behavior, so take that also with a grain of nuance.

How is that relevant to the discussion?

Is that relevant to the discussion?

I smell another spawn from some unnamed Discord server. If it's anywhere I live, it's rent-free in your guys' heads 😂

I knew "neurodivergent babysitting" was a perfect description of this place. (I don't mean that in a bad way; this is the best place to be 😇). That's a lot of constructs right there. Explains your relationship with words. (That was a bit snappy, I apologize 😓). I stand by my view that ADHD-beings, describable by qualities such as hyperactivity and hypoattention, are similarly a construct, similarly real, to IOB-beings, describable by qualities such as "tall, blackish but colorful with a strange darkness and alienness in aura".

I hear "IOB" and "ADHD" and hear "constructs".

Is an Integral Occult Being really real?

☺️ Nice. Remember that he one time took 10.5 grams of mushrooms and freaked the fuck out. One of the insights he took from that was (paraphrasing) "I don't think I value truth if it's not in the interest of my survival". So he closed himself to spirituality and went into politics instead That could be something to prod him on if you're feeling frisky.

@Little Aurobindo What about depression? Is that also not really real?

I really don't.

So nothing in reality shows a certain threshold of hyperactivity and hypoattention?

A definition, whether it's of consciousness or ADHD, is a construct. When reality behaves a certain way, you call it ADHD. When reality behaves another certain way, you call it consciousness. It's true that ADHD is defined in a certain arbitrary way, like having a certain score on a certain number of symptoms, but so could be said for consciousness vs. unconsciousness (or "levels" of consciousness).

Honestly that would turn into Dr. K x10.

"Consciousness" isn't really a real thing either.