Carl-Richard

There is no one to date because the you that dates is gone

So you conceded your entire point

Suspiciously aggressive move for a defensive alliance to go for the "claim-fact" format

An adult is not a liability but a resource.

Dating first, or else there is no one to date

A lot of the danger lies in misconceptions which are often based on a superficial understanding (about specific labels and labels in general). Working with a psychologist hands-on is one of the best ways to clarify those misconceptions, but not everybody has that privilege, so they have to be more cautious.

I think there is a danger of giving up your desire to understand by capitulating to a label.

Will that change your view on him?

Even better advice is don't try to make smart forum comments when you have COVID (yeah, I actually got it). Hahaha brilliant conversation. Complete disconnect but still good faith

That's my point

Lol are you not going to elaborate?

Do you trust cyanide?

How bad?

If you listen to some people's experiences, it's hard to believe that it isn't a thing. 20:58 Jan Esmann talks about his moment of self-realization and discovering his past lives.

Stage Green vs Stage Orange scrambled eggs

I read fast though

Thank you! I appreciate the kind words. I've had problems formulating my thoughts on this for a while, so I decided to wait for an authentic moment of inspiration. Ironically, I ended up writing this as I was coming up on what is most likely a COVID infection . I guess my immune system activating was the final missing piece that enabled me to tap into the core of my message .

There is another thread where I expanded on the points in this thread, and your comment reminded me of this:

I know, I know, I haven't read the Spiral Dynamics book , but for the people who have, how exactly did Beck & Cowan address these points? (I know they did, but I can't find anything on it): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graves's_emergent_cyclical_levels_of_existence#Criticism This is not a critique of Graves in particular. Most empirical research in Western psychology has a "WEIRD" bias: https://www.apa.org/monitor/2010/05/weird The extent of the problems caused by WEIRD bias depends on what is being studied, but for Spiral Dynamics in particular, which delves into cross-cultural analysis, the bias is more concerning. For example, how well does SD apply to somebody in China? What about cross-cultural persons, especially Third culture kids (TCK), i.e. growing up as a child in two or more different countries? What if cognitive development is a bit more orthogonal to specific value systems than SD likes to portray (especially in the case of Blue and Orange), maybe as a result of WEIRD bias? For example, it seems unfair to label a cross-cultural Muslim scholar pursuing a doctorate in philosophy at a Western university as "underdeveloped" for having more traditionalist values than a comparable American.

Namecalling and disrespectful attitude is against the guidelines. https://www.actualized.org/forum/guidelines/

What is the difference?

Why do you say this?

Then the creations in existence are uncreated as well.

What created existence itself?

Creation created itself.