Carl-Richard

That just sounds like a lobotomy. Turquoise is more sophisticated and complex than Yellow on all levels: intellectually, interpersonally, occupationally etc. Whatever principle you're espousing to come to your conclusions doesn't seem to follow the developmental assumptions of firstly just all of structural stage theory in general, but secondly also the specifics of SD(i) as stated by Beck & Cowan (and Wilber): developmental psychology describes the movement from lower to higher levels of complexity, understanding and problem-solving ability, and SD(i) does not marry mysticism with Turquoise (this is in fact what Don Beck himself criticized Leo for mistakenly assuming, which is why you can't find that video on YouTube anymore and why Leo changed his stance).

Sadhguru and Osho are mystics, so yes, that is what I meant by the previous question. The way I see it is that "mysticism" (i.e. having a significant propensity towards the "being" aspect of reality) shouldn't be treated as something that is inherent to a particular developmental stage (at least in the case of SD), but instead either as its own developmental domain ("line" in SDi terms) or something that is only softly correlated with higher development. To elaborate on that last point: if we go by modern Western society, mysticism tends to become more common at Green and up, but again, it's only a soft correlation and not an obligatory step, even for Turquoise. Breaking out of the mono-perspectival mold of scientific materialism (Orange) requires investigating many different perspectives, which by just sheer statistics increases the likelihood of discovering mysticism (of course cognitive flexibility also helps with that process), but still again, it's not a fully stage-dependent trait according to SD. So how do I define Turquoise then if not "Yellow + mysticism"? I struggled with this question for a while, but Nahm put it in a way that makes sense (paraphrasing with slight modification): "Turquoise is when you take the lessons of Yellow and properly share it with the world." In other words, the lessons of holism, the systems view and unconditional care is properly integrated into your individuality, and then your next job is to integrate this into the collective (as Turquoise is a collectivist stage). In this sense, Sadhguru is certainly Turquoise. Just look at his global-scale influence of deeply holistic approaches to environmental issues. His new Save Soil project is the pinnacle of Turquoise systems thinking: prioritizing and understanding the complex interconnections of the Earth-Humanity system and distributing this knowledge across several social channels; changing public opinion through mass-scale media appearances on podcasts like Joe Rogan and TV morning shows; changing policy through talks at the UN and various government meetings etc. What the guys at Game B are doing through blog posts, Sadhguru is doing through wide-scale systemic influence, exactly because he has had over 30 years to integrate it and manifest it in the real world. Btw, when I say "prioritizing and understanding the complex interconnections of the Earth-Humanity system", it's a fully articulated systems understanding (like Game B or Fritjof Capra) and not simply an intuitive, heart-based understanding of say Green or Purple. It's more sophisticated than run-of-the-mill environmentalism (e.g. Leonardo DiCaprio or Greta Thunberg). You truly get this while listening to his Joe Rogan appearance.

What distinguishes Turquoise from Yellow?

Do you think Turquoise = mysticism?

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Nahm was first demoted for not caving to Leo's linguistic demands, then after a while, he got banned for recruiting.

I wouldn't use those words. Some of our mods were recruited by Nahm via the PM system, and they accepted the invitation to become a mod over there, which Leo interpreted as a break of trust, so they got banned. However, Leo will ban anyone who makes an account over there.

@SQAAD Many people do psychedelics and very few discover non-duality. This is just the reality.

I don't know. I never really think about stages when I meet people, like "yeahhh this guy is definitely orange." I think most people are cool when you get to know them, unless of course they're like severely emotionally damaged or something.

Bruh he is obviously not joking in those clips. But yeah, he is a comedian.

Standard nutrition profiles don't really give the full picture. Some compounds are specific to that source. You would need to scour Google Scholar for that.

I'm curious if there is any comprehensive data on what kinds of detrimental compounds exist in normal fruits or healthy foods in general. With so called healthy foods, we always look at the positive parameters. Why do we assume that most so-called healthy foods are in the worst case neutral? This might be a mistake, like we've seen with the positive results from people experimenting with elimination diets for autoimmune disorders. Also just in general, the choice of methodology limits the scope of possible conclusions.

@Husseinisdoingfine Mmm oranges

Ok. So there is not much incentive to stop other than removing guilt. I would try to become more aware of how the guilt is affecting your body and mind on the level of feeling. However, in the end, it mainly boils down to how much you value having a clear and peaceful mind.

Do you feel anything in particular (bodily, mentally) when the drink wears off?

Also Joe:

This kind of thinking is a slippery slope. If you remove animal slaughter, you will shift your focus to something else, again and again, until there is just pure non-existence. Form is created through opposites. Being embodied in a human body is intrinsically a violation of other life. It's only a question about degrees. It's also a non-starter, because the reality that exists right now is what it is. You can't start removing parts of it without compromising the integrity of the whole. (This is not an anti-vegan argument btw).

Chill. It's not your fault if you don't get non-duality.

Are you living under a rock? ?

It's about the whole vitamin profile, high fiber content and various special compounds.

The lessons from the various measurement-related problems in QM is that our knowledge about the world is determined by the way we interact with it. QM is a framework invented and applied by humans to make sense of measurements invented and applied by humans.

Apparently, being exposed to highly complex music from ages 5 months to 2 years will significantly develop your language ability and memory recall.

2:40 For some of the greatest fusion guitar playing ever.

I meant it in a more derogatory way, not like he has a childlike energy or aura or anything. Juvenile is a better word. It's his agenda of trying to expose the guest, condescending communication style ("you really believe this and not this, don't you?"), tough guy persona and complete lack of good faith. It felt like I was watching a grade school bully.