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It is more common for awakened teachers to gradually deconstruct the self as they lead a being toward awakening. It's like gradually killing a personality with love over time - rather than trying to kill it with one shot. . . It's like using a ratio of 55% self killing and 45% self improvement. Over time, the self will gradually dissolve and eventually die. Lisa Cairns has become the most talented teacher of this method I have seen.

You are speaking as if there is an actual "you". There is no "you" to reprogram a subconscious. This is a trick of the self. It is a long road to fully awaken to the fallacy of a self. Yes, the personality appears within consciousness. Especially when other people are around. It boils down to whether one wants to develop/improve a self or awaken to the truth of the self. I'm not saying either is "better". The video promotes personal development, which is totally cool. Yet, I don't think it's helpful toward awakening to truth. Just like cooking a delicious Indian meal is cool, yet it's not very helpful toward awakening to truth.

This is great stuff for personal development - to improve one's life. Yet the height of self-actualization is not personal development. It is the death of the self. The video perpetuates the idea of a self-propelled free will. This is fine for personal development, yet a hindrance to awakening. I want to deconstruct the subconscious, not reprogram it. I don't want to replace one set of lies with another set of lies. That said, there is still a personality that appears in "my" reality. Of course, that personality wants to feel happy and avoid pain. Yet, the last thing I want to do is pretend it's real and create some new form of reprogrammed self that I will need to deconstruct.

If you dare, venture to the null void. All distinctions will dissolve into absolute nothingness. As you return, distinctions will gradually appear. The conceptualizing about distinctions in this thread may seem basic, yet the level distinction for these concepts is extraordinarily high. So are the distinctions required to create a sense of self. There is a mind-boggling amount of distinctions in the human mind that have appeared over millions of years of evolution. If there was a 2hr. movie that began at the null void and gradually allowed distinctions to appear - the level of conceptualization occurring here wouldn't appear until after 1.5hr. into the movie. There is so much occurring before all this conceptualization. Yet, I would guess that the vast majority of viewers would get bored with this and want to fast forward to the ending.

@How to be wise Sounds like some great personal development and insights coming through. Nice work!

This seems like great stuff for personal development - yet I wouldn't recommend it for self actualization, because it perpetuates the myth of a self that is in control.

To me, this sounds like you are reaching the "observer + object" stage or the "I am" stage. I would focus on loosening the identification/attachment with these feelings and thoughts. Keep returning to the observer - just the "I am" without adding anything extra to "I am". For me, I was eventually able to get more space between the "I am" and the object.

True freedom

Yes, Yes and Yes

And the boundaries between experience, knowledge and beliefs also breaks doen.

@Bryan Lettner That line of thinking is within the oneness. It is a view from a self within it’s “nest”.

I *almost* did that. I got sooo close!

IME, I had to first see the distinctions, then see the inter-relatedness, then integrate, then finally transcend to one holistic language. Fun stuff

Exactly, that illustrates the point - that these are integrated spiritual languages.

There are many different perspectives on SD. One paradox is that freedom is always now and a also a gradual process/progression.

That’s not my understanding of what SD is about. IMO, SD is one of many spiritual languages. To me, your message suggests being bounded and enslaved. It suggests a person should avoid a particular language. The spiritual language of Buddhism stresses that avoidance and attachment are on the same level - two sides of the same coin. Both lead to delusion and suffering. SD is a beautiful part within a larger whole.

Yes. Stage green includes connecting to others, developing compassion and becoming part of communities. Green has a more expansive and inclusive sense of community than Blue. On what you quoted of Satchidananda: At a mature level of understand, this gets into Turqoise. It sounds like a Turquoise teaching greens, to help them further evolve.

I would be cautious with pschedelics at your age. Your frontal cortex is still developing. For a breakthrough experience, I would take just the amount to ensure a breakthrough experience. Going higher than that can cause blackouts and the experiences become extremely difficult to integrate into life.

When you reach stage green, you are in for a treat ?

I’ve blacked out at 30mg.

Similar for me. Under 27mg plugged and I’m fine. Moderate body load 30mg+

@mohdanas I wish you the best in your endeavor ♥️?

Your view of “leader” is what made me chuckle.

Homunculus lives on ?

@Mondsee There are tons of awakened women. Many teach small retreats and have youtube stations. For example, check out the science and nonduality list - lots of women. There was also an actualized thread on awakened women. It was enormous - I think well over 100 women.