Forestluv

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  1. For sure. I grew up in a serious Blue environment. I had tons of judgments about people having the wrong kind of fun. I think a lot of it was rooted in the hyper critical environment I grew up in.
  2. Transcendence is a different perspective - it doesn't necessarily mean loss of interest. It means loss of attachment, identification and contraction. I've transcended science, yet still have interest in science. It's amazing how science integrates with art, music, poetry, nature etc. . . It's all great to amuse the personality, yet at the end of the day it's all inherently meaningless.
  3. @Be Yourself That is so beautiful. I love your form of nonverbal expression.
  4. I've done this type of mediation during silent Buddhist retreats. I think it's great in some environments and not practical in some environments.
  5. @Annoynymous It's easy-peasy. . . While you are meditating, observe when you entertain a thought. One of my teachers called it "having tea with your thoughts". Sometimes you can let a thought go, other times you will have tea with your thoughts. Pay close attention. What does that look like for you? A thought arises and the next thing you know. . . you've been thinking for five minutes. What is it about the thought that "catches" you? What is the energy that likes to hold on? Can you just let go of it? Why not? Label it as "thought" over and over and over again. Keep returning to your breath. Observe how the attachment gets weaker. How the thoughts seem further away. . . almost like background chatter in a restaurant. btw, you have been asking questions typical of an actualizer and doing great work
  6. Yes, he was a talented rock climber and semi-professional cyclist. He is brilliant at poking fun at the self. This can relax the personality and allow insights to appear.
  7. @Outer I've listened to them as well. I think they are wonderful for early awakenings.
  8. Doesn't Pantheism still maintain a degree of separation? I.e. there is "me" here and everything "out there" is God. And you have a cool nickname
  9. Very well said. For me, the early stages involved putting cracks into the shell surrounding my personality. For example, I found myself defending my beliefs a lot and getting into debates with people. People would get exhausted and ask "Can we just agree to disagree?". That got me even more energized to get my point across. After a while, it just didn't feel good. Then I started asking myself "Would I rather be 'right' or happy?". This put the first cracks into my personal beliefs. Quite often, my self would answer "I'd rather be happy" and was willing to let go of a belief for the moment. Then, I started looking for where these beliefs came from and if I even believe my own beliefs
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  11. I’m trying my best to meet you in Tier1 ? It sounds like you got a glimpse, but it was insifficient. Perhaps an upgrade is needed. I needed to sacrifice my privilege and live within foreign villages for a breakthrough. I think the key question is whether one wants to attach to a contracted personal belief or wants to expand their consciousness.
  12. It’s not “people” it’s oppressive behavior of white people against people of color. It’s all around us. The inability to see it is generally reflective of a privileged bubble. I’ve found that the obvious can be difficult to see and privilege is strongly defended due to identity and desire for security. For me, deeper knowing arose after I lived within poor families in Honduras, Guatemala, Peru and Colombia. I lived with people in the Caravan. As well, I was in two relationships with women of color and received direct experience if oppressive behavior. My defense mechanisms were so strong, I could have debated anyone on the issue. I needed the direct experience to penetrate my peiveledge. So, if you want to truley know what this oppressive behavior is, I would recommend getting direct experience. Part of privilege is that one doesn’t have to experience it - they do ‘t have to deal with it. They can debate online from a distance.
  13. Ethnicity and social staus are often conflated - they are related issues, yet also distinct issues. White oppresses color in the U.S. Progress comes when white relinquishes oppressive behavior, not when color accepts being oppressed.
  14. @Elysian Sounds like you have tapped into something divine ?
  15. Even if true, it’s a false equivalency since white is the dominant culture in the U.S.
  16. @ElysianThat sentient, intelligent guiding force is within the holistic you. The self tells you it is a seperate entity. Transcend the self and come to know that the personality appears within something grander.
  17. I was referring to a 5-meo *peak* experience. I can’t imagine someone being able to navigate life on a permanent 5-meo peak experience. As well, I’d say they are on the same level - but different experiences. An elite basketball player and an elite swimmer have some in common, but they are not the same.
  18. Once you go Yellow, you never go back ?
  19. @Aquarius Hmmm. Perhaps you just need some precise fine tuning rather than a general overhaul. For me, I was almost all Green - yet became aware I had some Blue-level issues with sex and relationships from my Catholic upbringing.
  20. Ahhhh. I did 20+ years of part-time consciousness work - 100% substance-free. So, I had a large foundation before my first psychedelic experience. Regarding direct experience in an area of awakening, my first "ego death" trip of four hours revealed more than 20+ years of meditation, retreats, readings, dharma talks etc. There was a knowing of a couple key concepts I never understood - even after many many years of study and meditation. It's like being rocketed to spiritual awakening. Yet then you return. I think I had a solid spiritual foundation to absorb the experience. I had felt an inner calling to go deeper with psychedelics for several years before I honored it. I would say that a 5-meo peak experience is on the same level of a buddhist master. Yet how that 5-meo experience is interpreted and integrated is dependent upon the developmental spiritual stage of the user. Someone with a shallow / immature spiritual foundation may be shaped by 5-meo very differently than someone with a solid / mature spiritual foundation. I know someone who has spent about forty years expanding her consciousness without substances. She is very highly evolved. I can sense that she is in tune with areas that are foreign to me. Likewise, it is clear to me that she does not have direct experience in a few areas I do. For example, a 5-meo peak took me to the null void. She speaks of nothingness conceptually, yet I can tell she has never ventured there. As well, I can tell she has direct experience I have never ventured. It's not like one is "higher" than the other. They are both highly evolved. Yet, I would say a lifetime of practice provides a spiritual maturity that a teenager doing 5-meo a few times would lack. With that said, anyone rocketed to a buddhist master level on a 5-meo peak will be profoundly affected. How that manifests will vary depending on the user. From one perspective, it is a "short cut". From another perspective, there are no "short cuts". Awakening is instant and a process.
  21. I'd say this is an intermediate stage in the self dissolution process. It can be extremely difficult and uncomfortable to reach this stage. Once this stage is reached, it becomes clear that living within the personality is like drinking gutter water and living beyond the personality is like drinking spring water. Then there is an energetic shift of motivation arising from the self to seek personal needs to an energy seeking to be that Truth. That's been my experience anyway.
  22. Great question. Psychonauts often call this "integration". IME, the psychedelic experience is often beyond what my finite mind can comprehend. When returning to a sober mindset, the mind likes to make sense of the experience. Yet I've found doing this reduces / contracts the experience. Quite often, it seems like the "essence" of the experience lingers for a while and then dissolves. Yet, something remains. Once you see certain things, you can't unsee them. Imagine living in an isolated town in which nobody has ever left the town. Nobody has any idea that anything exists outside this town. One day a being enters and offers you a very different perspective. You agree and he takes you outside the town to a mountain top. You sit there and for the first time see the expansiveness beyond your town. You see how it is interconnected with nature. You see other towns off in the distance. Your perspective of yourself expands greatly. . . You return to the town and try to tell others of your experience. They challenge what you saw. They say you must have been dreaming. They question how you know it is real. They want evidence, yet they are unwilling to leave the safety of the town. Would you be permanently conscious of every facet of the experience? Of course not. Yet you will be unable to unsee what you saw. Your consciousness will be forever expanded. The way you view things within the town will never be the same after what you saw.
  23. @RichardY The Kavanaugh hearing seemed like an emotional lightening rod. I find it fascinating how Blue / Orange and Green were both strongly triggered for different reasons.
  24. Consider all the input that has gone into making you you. The trillions upon trillions of stimuli every second of your life. Each little bit shaping you. Consider all the input before you were born. The DNA you inherited from your parents. Millions of years of evolutionary input that went into shaping you. It is so vast that a finite mind can't comprehend it all. Yet, the mind and body remembers bits and pieces. These memories are the basis for "The Story" about who I am. A few fragments that seem to create a character we call "me". From this, lots of impulses arise - thoughts, feelings etc. "I am kind", "I'm not attractive enough", "I shouldn't have lied", "She shouldn't have lied to me", "I regret yelling at my dog", "I need to earn more money". . . and on and on and on. . . The reality we perceive mentally and emotionally is shaped by these lenses we wear. What is reality without these lenses? What if you stepped outside The Story and examined it? What if you deconstructed the Story bit by bit and then let go of it all? What would remain?
  25. Similar for me. The rough part was 1-2 years. Then a maturation. It's kind of like taking a space ship into outer space. Lifting off against gravity is a rough ride. There is lots of uncertainty and it's uncomfortable. Yet, once we breakthrough the atmosphere and enter space . . . it's magnificent. We look back and see the earth floating in space and realize we too are now floating in space - free of the limitations imposed by gravity. We are free to be curious and explore. . .