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Exactly, there is a lot of nonverbal essence in Turquoise that appears nonsensical from the perspective of other levels. Imagine someone in a group tells a nonsensical joke in a group of people. Everyone starts laughing except one person. That person says “I don’t get it. Can you explain to me why the joke is funny?” The joke teller responds “It’s not something that can be explained. If I tried to explain it, it wouldn’t be funny anymore”.

@Aakash Language and concepts break down at Turquoise. It’s more about being and direct experience than conceptualizing and intellectualizing.

@Aakash I think you are entering areas that cannot be explained in rational, logical terms and I would be aware of humans that try to do so. I've had many Turquoise-level experiences, yet I am not Turquoise-centered. My baseline conscious level is below Turquoise and I don't feel qualified to give you an answer from a Turquoise-grounded perspective. As well, there are very very few Turquoise-centered humans and it is an area with a lot of exploration. I can say that much of Turquoise involves hyper-intuition, hyper-connectiveness and beingness. At first, it can seem very "paranormal". So your question kinda gets recontextualized at the Turquoise level.

@NoSelfSelf I find it best to be honest about my true desires and to pursue my true desires in a healthy way. I had many Orange-level personal goals I pursued for many years (and still do). As well, it is not all or nothing. 80% of your time could be oriented to pursuing Orange-level areas and 20% pursuing Green-level areas. Also, you could aim to get "toofers". For example, pursuing something that gives you personal achievement and recognition (orange), yet also increases the wellness of the community (green). For example, one could design a technological gadget that would make them a lot of money - yet the gadget might not help the welfare of the community - such as a gadget that allows people to sneak alcohol into sporting events. Or one could design a gadget that gives them personal gain, yet also contributes to the wellness of a community. For example, one could say the developer of Fitbit gained a lot of individual success and income, yet offered a product that encouraged people to exercise more - thus increasing the wellness of society. Orange is about being true to yourself and not living someone else's life. I would just encourage that it be done in a way that doesn't harm others in the community.

That's a great question. A hallmark of Yellow is integration of perspectives to form a more holistic perspective. For example with mental illness, a yellow-level thinker would synthesis inputs from the environment, trauma, personal relations, psychology, bodily inputs, neuroscience, alterations in gene expression in the brain, chronically elevated cortisol levels etc. Yet as you mention, there are an immense number of variables. A yellow-level thinker may be motivated to discover all inputs and integrate them all together to form a predictive model. Yet at the Turquoise level, how many inputs are there? . . . (infinite). At the Turquoise level, there is understanding that there is one integrated whole and one cannot separate any things from the whole to create an external, objective model. Yet, that is not to say models are not practical at the human level.

@p1xelmonk It was referring to Andrew Yang, not Bernie.

@the_purple_tuba Welcome to the dream.

Your thoughts won't lead you to the direct experience. Those thoughts are muddying the water. Shut off the intellectual mind and start observing.

@Truth Addict I think I've gone through a similar process. It sounds like intellectual intelligence is dominating over emotional and social intelligence. Notice how the mind wants to downgrade emotional and social intelligence by referring to it as a "problem" (in quotes) and subconsciously suggesting it is the other people's problem and how can I best deal with their problem. As well, notice how the mind calls it an "innocent offense problem". The sneaky ego loves to consider itself the innocent good guy. For me, this went on for years and years. I defaulted to the thinking mind and rarely experienced truly deep emotional connections with others. I didn't flow in social groups. I didn't pick up on unstated needs of others. Quite often someone would end up upset and would be bewildered how I didn't know. I would say "Why didn't you just tell me!!??". As I transitioned into Green, I became aware that I was over-intellectual at the expense of emotional and social intelligence. My empathy and intuition was quite low. I had to take responsibility and stop focusing on others. I spent a lot of time developing Green skills of empathy, connection, vulnerability, intuition etc and my emotional and social intelligence has significantly increased. It has opened up a whole new world. It has attracted new friends and a girlfriend at depths of connections I never knew existed. There are emotional and social realms that are unbelievably mind-body blowing. You describe a Green-level deficiency. One of the major lessons of Green is embodying intent vs. impact. Notice how you are focused on intent and just beginning to notice impact. It also relates to subjective experience and developing a strong empathetic ability. For my progress, I decreased my intellectualizing in half and doubled my time working on the emotional/social level.

@MM1988 Direct experience is more profound than intellectualizing. During your mediation, observe your mind as if it was under a microscope. Pay close attention to the arising of thoughts and actions. From where do thoughts, choices and actions arise. Are you the author of your thoughts? Is there a chooser? Is there a doer? Don't get caught into the trap of intellectualizing. The true realization is through direct experience. The mental intellectualization is a distraction and a trick the ego uses to maintain control of the narrative. Don't fall into that trap. Sit and observe intensely. If you dare. . .

@outlandish If you enjoyed that, check out this recent Cell paper on the effect of psychedelics on neurogenesis in cell culture. DMT and LSD are potent simulators of neural growth and neural plasticity (the ability to form new neural synapses and strengthen synapses). In particular, check out figs. 1A,B and 2A, I. Psychedelics are as potent as our own endogenous neurotrophic factor, BDNF. Dramatic and exciting stuff. https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/pdf/S2211-1247(18)30755-1.pdf

We are all neurotransmitters to each other in the big collective brain

How can you determine the feeling isn't part of the illusion?

@Paul92 Joy and Sorrow are two sides of the same coin. Upon transcendence, they are one. http://www.katsandogz.com/onjoy.html

Real is so limited and burdensome. Illusion is infinite and freely flowing. Which movie would you rather participate in? 1. Physicists debate about the atomic interactions within an apple. Highly detailed, analytical and logical. Lots of debate about which atomic model is the most accurate representation. Egos all over the place, trying to be right. 2. An illusory dream world filled with mysticism. An exploration into magical realms beyond imagination. A world filled with wonder and magnificence. Movie 1: Omg my head hurts. Is this almost over yet? Movie 2:

@Paul92 Why are you giving more relevance to intellectual constructs that have been conditioned into your mind over the magnificence of your direct experience? Let go and dive into that direct experience. It goes much much deeper. The magnificence of life.

@giglio Evolving through each SD stage involves a transition, crisis and resistance - at both the individual conscious level and the collective conscious level. It is part of the evolution. Community connection, love and welfare over self-centered excessive individual separation and materialism. It seems some traditional libertarian conditioning is restricting your evolution and expansion. Many of your concerns are focused on an extreme blue/orange level government. If government evolved to Green-centered, it would be expressed very differently. If you go full Green, you won't go back. It is sooo much deeper and meaningful than Orange and traditional libertarianism. I found traveling and immersing myself within various cultures helped expand my consciousness and evolution into Green. As well, Leo made high quality videos on Orange and Green. In particular, the end of the Orange video and beginning of the Green video focuses on the stage transition. Yet theory is quite limited. One really needs to immerse themselves in the direct experience for embodiment.

This song is so beautiful. Oozing Green Love. Thanks for sharing it @ajasatya

@ajasatya Dang, that song is sooo beautiful

I posted a link above that gives a thourough explanaion, perhaps that may help. It sounds like you have some pre-conceptions. No one is calling it a utopia and work is needed to improve and continue to evolve into yellow. Yet it is more evolved than the terminus of capitalism. Green emphasizes collective consciousness and community welfare, which is more evolved than self-centered profits and material gains over community welfare. As well, according to SD lower stages are not rejected, they are embodied into higher stages. So, aspects of Orange will be present in Green. For example, a hallmark of Orange is rational thinking. One doesn’t reject and stop rational thinking when they evolve to Green and Yellow.

@Quicksilver Green is calling for democratic socialism, not socialism. https://www.dsausa.org/about-us/what-is-democratic-socialism/

Letting go of gender role assumptions and expectations is liberating and opens up a whole new world.

Sounds like some control issues to me.

@How to be wise Every developmental stage has it's traps. They get more subtle and nuanced the deeper we go.