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As we choose to follow the path of Enlightenment there should arise many practical obstacles in our everyday lives. Until we get awaken we need to sustain ourselves somehow. The main issue is that we do not know in advance when the awakening will happen, it can only happen in presence - we can not "strategize " about it. What are the best careers and jobs to sustain our day to day practical needs while we are on the journey of Enlightenment. This journey requires extreme loneliness and self inquiry. Unfortunately the modern world does not forgive that. It endorses extroversion and active social people. Please offer the solutions to this issue.

The question was adressed to the period during which you are on the "journey" of the awakening. I realise that when you are awaken it does not matter anymore.

Hello reality! In this topic I want to discuss the "being" after death. What happens after our physical body dies? Do we "reborn" as another ego or we become absolute infinity aka nothingness itself and completely get rid of any ego? Since we may not become aware of it before we actually physically die let's contemplate.

Yes but idea of "forgetting" it all again if our finite perspective reincarnates in other ego after physical death is "scary"...

What do you mean?

I agree, but you only answered what happens to my ego during the physical death itself but question is there are other egos too. Do I experience others too? Like reincarnation but not really...

Hello reality! I am going to purchase the book: "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle. I find him as an amazing spiritual teacher. I only have 3 credits left on audible. Please suggest your top 3 reading materials about the path of Enlightenment and the Truth.

@Dodo thanks for suggestions!

What do you mean 12 hours of straight meditation? Does that mean no brakes at all? No eating no drinking no toilet?

It all depends on the perspective. We can argue on that. What you and me call triangle? What if I call the triangle the "illusion" of triangle? What if there are infinite numbers of triangles from my perspective? And since ego is perspective too it also "exists" and does not exist at the same time right? Again very important question arises here. Why "my" ego "lives" like my perspective to "me" and not like "Leo's"? Does that mean that Nothingness aka god experiences - is aware of itself with infinite numbers of perspectives?

Sorry... can't resist..... But you can't become "my nickname"

Yes but I mean from the illusional perspective wise. What happens to "your" ego or call it perspective after from "my" ego's perspective Leo physically dies? Why does "my" ego lives like "my" life to "me" and not like "Leo's". P.S. I use captions deliberately to show that I understand on the intellectual level that there is no me or Leo but I refer to many separations, many egos within Nothingness.

@Leo Gura Leo! At this very moment after I wrote last message. I think I had crack into awaking! I have headache after I came from party... I closed my eyes and "looked closely" where this headache actually goes. First it felt like to the brain. But I looked very closely and it actually felt like it goes infinitely nowhere and "Me" is behind the curtains of this illusion... unexplained force of energy and goosebumps run through my whole body. I opened eyes and I was shocked it literally continued roughly for one minute. After that everything suddenly began to fade away... what was that??? Is there any way I can make it permanent?

What is physical death then? Is it same as ego death? Can I kill my ego permanently without dying physically? Do I "convert" to other ego after my "physical death"?

Even though you always repeat that the Truth is paradoxical for human logic - this is the most logical explanation of the reality I have ever heard of. I fully agree that this explains everything on my intellectual level. Why do I "understand" this so logically? Do our egos have free will Leo? Or they just "fill" each other to creat absolutely every possibility. Why does reality feel exactly as "my" ego and not "Leo's" ego for "me"?

@Leo Gura this is amazing Leo! I somehow feel so relieved to hear that there are many egos and not only "mine". I realise that this might be my ego talking here but existance of multiple egos does not "feel as lonely" as it would be otherwise. I know that this relief is bad and it is my ego battling to "save" itself... If you could compare awakening to one feeling what it would be? Loneliness, happiness, pure love or what? Do our egos have free will?

@Leo Gura I understand you: Enlightenment and The Truth is not a theory to be prooven it just is the Ultimate Truth - I am it and I need to become aware of myself. And sincere intent to know this Truth must be initial inertia for me to Start this journey right? But how did you stay Leo after becoming aware of this Truth? How do you continue to do Leo's everyday stuff? And one very important question for my self enquiry process - please answer that even if you think it is My ego asking it. Are there many egos like yours and other's within Nothingness or is it just "my" ego?

My awareness experiences reality like this: it is absolutely everything possible made out of nothing. Nothing to be nothing has to be opposite of everything that's why nothing feels like everything in my opinion. That's why nothing awares itself like everythig if that makes sense to you. So absolutely everything must include limited perspective versions of ourselves too right? And thats who we are! Limitations within Nothing! And that's what I call "Me".

So you don't know answer on egos? What is your opinion just tell me that. P.S let's say pineal gland has this feeling.

Why does reality has egos? Is there only my ego? Or are there yours Leo's and etc.?

It feels like point between the closed eyes is seeing these visualizations. I have tried too. But what if who we really are is attached to our pineal gland somehow. Ancients did not call it "third eye" for no reason...Also notice that if you close your eyes and walk around. That sense of you is following your body even with your eyes closed. What if it is really located in your body somehow? (Example of pineal gland)

I think you have grasped my idea. The rest is subjective. How open minded will you and me contemplate each other's ideas. I promise that I will do my best to contemplate yours with no subjective foundations. P.S taking time out of the equation does not change the fact that initial inertia was belief. For what? For your ego to believe that it can achieve awareness. And to make practical changes to do it.

Nevertheless let's turn the time back when you were not aware then. Story is the same... Belief was the initial inertia... and belief is part of your ego.

But it should sound outrageous based on the way you formulated it. Maybe your belief that you are actually moving towards the Truth prohibits you to question it and does not allow it to appear outrageous to you? Since you have no awareness of that Truth yet as you tell me. Then it means that you are following your belief of the possibility to become aware of that Truth. We come to the same dilema here. What is the difference between "you" and a religious person. They also say : First you have to believe to see it. And if we question everything there should be no room left for belief right? I know this conversation with me maybe becoming annoying to you because it seems we are talking the same things - but I do this because I really want you to get my point about what moves you towards the direction you have chosen. It is belief that you will become aware... belief is initial inertia

What you expect in the end? Will it make your life happier and more fulfilled? And since you think that 5 Meo is part of that practice - What is 5 Meo in your opinion? Should not it be also nothing? And how could nothing within the nothingness open your "eyes" and make you awake?