Tyler Robinson

Why is it necessary that guys should have a ton of women drooling over them for them to take a spot as a role model? Jordan Peterson has a healthy family life, married a woman he fell in love with, traditional style. He is not going around chasing women, but he had a great career and a good head above his shoulders. Isn't that enough? This new alpha male epidemic (likes of Tate) have been spreading this new trend where your worth as a man depends on how many women want your tattoo on them. Sounds too egoic, insecure, cheap and less grounded in healthy Masculinity.

I posted something in our journal. Slacked a bit on this. Will post some other day.

This part is closer to toxic Masculinity. I don't like to see men fighting with each other. Let's not treat men like animals.

@Max_V but one can integrate and embody elements of higher stages. This is a desultory, higgledy-piggledy kind of a process that gets you there, it's not necessary that you have to be perfect at any stage, you could still embody elements of higher stages with half ass integration of the lower stages, nobody is perfect whatever spiral they're at, I'm mostly at green and my comfort resonates much more with green than any other spiral stage, maybe I'll understand Blue better at yellow, right now I have a ton of Blue shadow that im not ready to drop anytime soon. Btw thanks, it was a fascinating conversation with you, learned a lot from you and others, I'm running short on time so I might have to let go here. You guys have a great day!

Yup. I get what you're trying to say. Those people might not take ethics seriously if they're a weak stage Blue. But I've read somewhere that as you move up the spiral to Tier 2, you begin to loose your grip on the lower stages and these stages begin to get less relevant since survival itself begins to appear as an essential commodity of existence and higher consciousness at these stages means letting go of survival and all its trappings and focusing on the nature of infinity.

Yea I do.. But the thing is, that these excesses are not as harmful as the toxic side of Blue. I fail to see how green excesses compare on the same level as blue toxicity. As you go higher the shadow aspects and excesses become less dangerous as compared to those of the lower stages.

I wish I could own a certificate of my human rights. Umm, I'm looking around but can't find it.

Oh wow that's creepy, the hair on my back stood up, instant anxiety.

This is good take and I'm glad that you had a good experience. But I recently read about women in the military get sexually abused and harassed and the blue culture shuts it down to maintain their image and reputation and not disrupt their order. What's your take on it?

@Michael569 yea really good points but do you sometimes wonder that these things come at price of some toxicity. Is it possible to have a society where ethics are maintained but at the same time not abused by religious groups. What's the price we pay for maintaining these systems in place. As much as I love the idea of public services like hospitals, do you also realize that these places are also massive grounds of corruption and nepotism, bureaucracy. You're presenting these systems as perfect but are they really perfect in real life? I can think of people dying waiting for a kidney donation because the government doesn't give a fuck about them.

@KH2 fair enough.

@Swarnim respect your honesty!

It's not about the amount of melanin. You're skirting the issue. It's that being black and becoming a president would have been extremely tough. Him being black had everything to do with it because it's a great accomplishment that all black people are proud of. In a country still divided by racism his accomplishment is huge and almost impossible And not only that he maintained office with utmost grace and commitment. He wasn't disgraced like Trump. He held his office with honor and worked very hard as indicated by his greying hair and slimming figure, he is the true embodiment of Masculinity. He is a great dad, a great husband, a good son, and a good President What more do you want? He doesn't Need flashy cars Because real men don't need shiny objects to look great. That's what kids do.

At the same time I don't want a culture where a man who lied in his business gets thrown into jail for the rest of his life. How does that work for ya?

I'll ruminate on this.

You think that becoming the President of America being a black man in a majority white nation is an easy feat? Bro which rock are you living under?

Do you agree that this woman is totally deluded? What is she saying? It sounds horribly sexist. I can't believe she has an audience. That's very disturbing. This guy is a master manipulator. And I can't believe she doesn't see through him.

I totally agree with you, if you keep it all stripped down, then that's when stage Blue is actually in its most healthy state. It's like water, in its most healthy state its pure and free of chemicals.

What about Barack Obama or do we simply ignore good role models?

@Happy Lizard nope. I'm not forcing my worldview. I'm explaining my worldview so that people who look at stage Blue with rose tinted glasses can wake up to it's sad reality. I'm showing compassion so that people don't suffer the rigors of stage Blue.

Yesterday I saw this documentary and I cried After that I did meditation for 20 minutes approx. And I came to this realization, this insight The greatest evil does not lie in not following morality The greatest evil lies in enforcing morality. Isn't that what old societies did to people. Then Jesus said - An allusion to an utterance of Jesus in John 8:7, viz. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” ...

I don't know what's happening to me. You make me a more understanding person. You make me a positive person. I'm growing a lot. In the past few days I have understood that most people have an inner child that needs healing. We all need to be healing inside. Your vibe is healing me.

Even Jesus said in the Bible, that people should do good only out of free will. And none of us are truly without sin.

That's ok. But people should follow these ideals only out of self will, interest and freedom. People should not be forced to follow these ideals because that's what toxic blue does. If a person wants to be ethical, let them do so out of free will only (this is stage green). Goodluck.

@Max_V I'm trying to make you aware of the harsh realities of stage Blue which is majority Blue in real life.