Emerald

This is exactly the reason why I'm making posts like this, as there's just so much internet male brainwashing going on relative to what women like. And they're trying to use it to get better with women and trust in it so much that they don't realize how much less attractive it makes them. You can't even connect with a guy who thinks this way. He just gets so swallowed up in his insecurity narratives from internet echo chambers that he makes himself repellent in the eyes of most women. But he has learned things like, "Never listen to women about what they want." And so, he gets locked into these narratives that make him less and less and less attractive to women that would otherwise like him. When men buy into these narratives, they become like petty porcupines that barb women and Feminine whenever they get too close. So, it drives women away. And then, when women don't like them, they go... "She would like me if I were more hyper-Masculine. Let me double down on these narratives." That's the problem of mistaking the antidote as the poison... and the poison as the antidote.

Who is a specific example of a woman that you know personally who overvalues what they have to offer and demands too much? And who is a specific woman that you know personally who has gone through the process of being "ran through" and then sour graping about having to settle for a "beta man"? And it can't just be "there was a woman on the internet who was saying it" because it's very lucrative for women to feed into these male insecurity narratives. I literally can't think of ANY woman that this describes. I've only heard men who are sour-graping about women being able to get easy sex espouse this narrative. And I have known plenty of women... with some of them being very promiscuous women. Mind you, hyper-promiscuity doesn't tend to lead to good places. But the promiscuous player guys that promiscuous women go for early on are similar to the promiscuous player guys that promiscuous women go for later on. But it doesn't really change with her body count. It's more of a character compatibility thing. But if you personally know a woman this describes, do share. Or are you just watching too much red pill content?

This is just a projection of the anti-social narratives that men are being brainwashed with at large. And it's causing men to get bitter and repel women... which is causing the male loneliness epidemic. Go interact with real actual women... and you will find that they like real actual men. Why is it surprising to you that women are attracted to men?

Of course Brad Pitt is Masculine, but he isn't hyper-Masculine. That was one of the points that I'm making. Men will tend to think women are interested in guys that look like He-Man because that's what they like in terms of male aesthetics and they think maxing out on Masculinity is the same thing as maxing out on attractiveness. But women will tend to rate as most generally attractive guys that look like Christian Bale or Brad Pitt. But that's just the most generally attractive guys. Women will also aesthetically prefer more averagely strong guys to super buff hyper-Masculine guys even in more average men who aren't Hollywood sex symbols. But just consider who gets to be a Hollywood sex symbol and who doesn't, as this will tell you a lot about women's aesthetic preferences... and Masculinity preferences regarding men. Like, even in his prime... I guarantee you that very few women had pictures of Arnold Schwarzenegger on their wall. He's hyper-Masculine... but most women would say that it's too much Masculinity to find attractive. But I'm sure lots of people had Justin Timberlake on their wall... who has a mixture of hard and soft qualities.

This narrative does not apply to most women as most women don't have a lot of sexual partners... nor do they desire them. It may not even apply to any women at all (even promiscuous ones), as it just seems like a dynamic that's purely the brainchild of men who feel bitter and jealous about women being able to get laid more easily than men can... and who feel insecure about their own attractiveness and Masculinity. Like, "Haha! You let all the other men fuck you and now you're ran through. And now you'll be sorry because you have to settle for a weak little simp (like me ). Should have been purer and kept your legs closed... and then you'd be able to get married to a real manly man that you ACTUALLY want (because I know you prefer that guy to me ). You know what they say, a key that unlocks a lot of locks is a master key... but a lock that's unlocked by many keys is a shitty lock. And now those super high value sexy hot hyper-Masculine alpha player guys with the rippling abs who are the prize don't want you. And it's TOO BAD for you that you're stuck with little weak bitch men (like me ). And now I'm offended that you're attracted to me because obviously you're just settling because you couldn't get Chad. Stay away from me! Your attraction to me is HUGE insult to me! How dare you?!?!?!?!" But if women tend APPARENTLY be attracted to these hyper-Masculine "alpha" guys, how do you explain that I've never been interested in hyper-Masculine "alpha" guys... and have always been interested in men who have a mixture of hard and soft qualities? And how do you explain that, even in my experiences hooking up in my early 20s, that I did so with regular guys who weren't hyper-Masculine alpha player types? And how do you explain the fact that the men that most women find attractive (like Hollywood actors), don't tend to be hyper-Masculine and that women tend to rate more averagely muscular body-types as more attractive (which they are, imo as well)?

The bolded part is the very thing that I'm dismissing about what he said, as it is a fundamental misunderstanding of female attraction that frames what women value in terms of what men value. Men value short terms hook-ups and want to be promiscuous... but women generally do not. And probably half or more of women probably would never even engage in a short term hookup nor desire to be promiscuous. And no... you'd be wrong in assuming that women prefer the short term guy for a relationship and just settles for the long term guy because the long term guy is open to a relationship and the short term guy isn't. That would be like saying that men prefer promiscuous women for a relationship over non-promiscuous women, but just can't get them to get into a long term relationship with them... so they settle for the non-promiscuous women. But the reality is more likely that a man will enjoy sleeping with a promiscuous woman for short term hook-ups, but will usually have deeper feelings for a woman who is not as geared towards short-term hook-ups. It would seem to me that, if women who value short-term hook-ups (in the way that men generally do) are more interested in hyper-Masculine guys for hook-ups but are more interested in regular guys for relationships... these promiscuous women might be seeing these hyper-Masculine guys in a similar light to how men who are interested in short term hookups tend to see promiscuous women. Like, perhaps these men are fun to have sex with for a woman who values short term hook-ups but they aren't someone that they'd want to make a life with or bring home to their parents. That's the only thing I can guess as to why the statistics are that way. But because I don't value short-term hook-ups, the idea of being attracted to some hyper-Masculine guy that you just fuck-and-go and have some emotionless sex with is abstract to me. Maybe if I were more geared towards the physicality of sex and I was motivated to sex more by the desire for orgasm rather than emotional elation that can only be achieved with deeper levels of intimacy, I would be able to relate better. But I'd wager that most women (even women who have had short term hookups before) are uninterested in the short term guy and aren't even that interested in having short terms guys as it's just not that emotionally stimulating. I suspect that this could be where the short-term preference for hyper-Masculine guys comes from and why I can't relate to the attraction... and why most women also don't pick that kind of guy as the most attractive guy.

That does make sense that you'd attract Puellas if that's the case. But the advice still stands to be careful with much older partners (especially immature ones), as it's easy for young people to be taken advantage of or controlled by older partners. Or even if not deliberately, being with a much older partner can cause you to skip out on the developmental phases characteristic of people in their 20s... which also wouldn't be good.

I was just thinking about how, according to the video, women statistically go for more hyper-Masculine guys if they're hooking up and having one night stands.... and I had mentioned earlier to someone that perhaps more promiscuous women who value one-night stands tend to go for more hyper-Masculine guys. But most women aren't that motivated towards short-term hook-ups and don't value them much.... even if they have them from time to time. And that's because these experiences focus far more of the physical experience of sex rather than the emotional experience of sex... which just isn't as interesting for most women, as women are mostly motivated towards sex for the sake of emotional stimulation. There's just so much more emotional stimulation from being with a guy you have a deeper relationship with where you can experience a far greater range of erotic emotions flowing through you. To give an analogy, let's say women are like stoners. And more most women are like really discerning stoners who 99% of the time won't even get high unless the weed is some special strain of it as she is aiming to have a very specific kind of high that's way out of this world. But some stoners just enjoy the act of smoking weed and are focused on the act of smoking the weed itself and are less interested in experiencing the high that comes with smoking the weed. So, they're willing to smoke dirt weed even if it doesn't get them that high because they just like smoking weed regardless of how "meh" the high feeling is. They just enjoy smoking... or perhaps they can't quite connect to the high feeling of the former group. Women who have a strong attraction to averagely Masculine guys are more geared towards the former... which represents the more profound levels of emotional stimulation associated with a deeply intimate sexual dynamic... and will tend to pine for guys who seem like better longterm partners who they can envision having those deeply intimate emotional dynamics with. And perhaps, if more promiscuous women are women that enjoy the physicality of sex more than the emotionality, they might be more drawn to more hyper-Masculine guys who are more likely to have a lot of physical prowess and would themselves be more focused on the physical elements of sex.

But the original video is about women preferring a guy with a more averagely strong looking build versus his more shredded after picture. He doesn't have an Arnold build. But he's worked to make himself more shredded. And it's the difference between what men find aesthetically pleasing about men versus what women find aesthetically pleasing about men. And men tend to find more shredded and jacked men more aesthetically pleasing, and assume that's what women like. But women tend to find men who look strong in a more lean or average body more pleasing.

You can learn all those things. But you can't change your level of Masculinity as the Masculine and Feminine are more innate to the person and are baked right into the personality.

A regular guy is a guy with an average level of Masculinity with either a lean but strong body type... or a more average but strong body type. And it's a guy who's got a mixture of Masculine and Feminine qualities. At its most attractive, think of a Hollywood heartthrob guy who's like Ryan Gosling or Brad Pitt or Timothee Chalamet or someone like that who aren't hyper-Masculine but are Masculine with some softer qualities. And in its more average expression, it's most men that exist on the planet. The "alpha" guy is a super jacked and shredded guy who's hyper-Masculine and doesn't have much softness to him. Think of guys with a physique like Dwayne Johnson or Arnold Schwarzenegger... but minus the warmth of personality. And it's men who tend to have smaller eyes, more angular faces, and a lower body-fat percentage. And these are men who tend to have a more stoic and domineering way of coming across.

I'm not an outlier. You just don't understand how women actually operate. Just look at the data... and you will see that women don't prefer hyper-Masculine guys. Men prefer hyper-Masculine guys and find them more attractive. But women tend to prefer men who are Masculine but not in an extreme way. This is also why Hollywood heartthrobs are more like Brad Pitt types rather than Dwayne Johnson types. Here's some videos that reflect this...

Because they have social status. I mean regular guys in terms of level of Masculinity and muscularity... not in level of social status. Plenty of musicians and club promoters are not hyper-Masculine guys. Some musicians are quite sensitive and Feminine. But they get a lot of female attention because of their talents or status. Also, regular guys have women in situationships all the time. That's not reserved for hyper-Masculine guys... just low-investment guys. Also, the CEO guy in the example is attractive to women because he's tall and he's a CEO... and probably has a strong looking body... not necessarily a hyper-Masculine one. Usually when I think of the successful CEO type, he looks more like Patrick Bateman than he looks like He-Man. Plus, it's on a dating site... so the women only have photos and information to go off of. They can't vet for vibes.

You should price for how much value that your customer will get from your work... not for the time you've spent. I would just specify in the future that your process will involve AI and will be a shorter window of time to get completed, that way there's transparency. But if the client is getting the same results, but it took you a shorter period of time to create it, there is no issue there. In fact, it's more valuable to get it to them quicker.

But it's not just that "focusing" on the unfairness is a losing mindset. It's believing in the narratives you've proposed in the first place that will be your own downfall because it so thoroughly misunderstands how women as a group tend to operate. And this misinterpretation of women's nature will create bitterness in you and repel women who would prefer you.

You're welcome.

No, most women just prefer regular guys. Period. This is a goofy mindset that will keep you lonely if you keep thinking this way. You will be offended when a woman is genuinely attracted to you because "clearly she's been ran through by alphas to be settling for me." And you will be grumbling about a woman not letting you cheat because "If she was with the alpha, she'd let him cheat all he wants." It's unrealistic, and it's a losing mindset.

I don't know about that as a generality. My standards are a lot higher than they were in my early 20s because I've been around the block. And I've observed that that describes most women who are 30+. And all my female friends' standards for their partners have gone up as they've matured. Like, when I was 18-20... I could be attracted to guys who had very little going for them if they had long hair, smoked weed, and were in a band as that was the lifestyle that I wanted in my teens and early 20s. All that was necessary were some common interests in music or in clothing style. Nowadays, that would not fly at all... and I would find that quite repulsive. Yet again, an older woman who's interested in very young men might be particularly immature herself like a Puella Aeternus. So, I don't doubt that they exist and that you might be approached by them, as there are immature people who exist. And I know that cougars exist. Not that you seem interested in these older women, I would just say to be careful if you get involved with them as that can be really negative for the younger person to be involved with a much older person. Personally, I'm 36, and I couldn't imagine being interested in a guy who's under the age of 30 because they're just not in the same stage of life as I am.

That's what the narrative is that men are getting brainwashed into to increase their insecurities so that they buy more information products from online Masculinity peddlers who want to profit from their insecurities. You seem believe that women are SETTLING for the beta guy after they've had their "fun" with the gigachads. But women actually PREFER the beta guy. No settling necessary.

Yes, Harry Styles is quite attractive because he has a mixture of hard and soft qualities. And you'll find the women's celebrity crushes usually have this hard/soft combo going on because that's what most women prefer. And that Jocko Willink guy is very Masculine and has the characteristic unsexiness to his appearance that most hyper-Masculine guys have. Like, I can't imagine having a tender human moment with him... nor a passionate moment just from looking at his appearance. Of course, he could be a really nice tender guy irl. His unexpressive appearance just suggests otherwise... so he's not appealing at first glance. So, at first blush, he seems to be a low emotional stimulation kind of guy because you wouldn't be able to see any emotions or conflict reflecting in his eyes when sleeping with him. Like a going to bed with a statue.

First off, no man can change his level of Masculinity as it is innate. So, it doesn't matter what is ideal, as everyone is working with what they got... unless they start taking hormones or steroids. I'm just trying to communicate to men that most women don't prefer a hyper-Masculine guy... and more average expressions of Masculinity are plenty attractive to women... even more attractive than hyper-Masculinity is in the eyes of most women. Keep in mind, a lot of these young men believe they have to be Rambo for a woman to actually be interested in them as a person. And that any woman who likes them is just settling for them because she "can't land Rambo". That's the narrative they're feeding men now-a-days. And if you were female, you would know how bullshit they really are as you'd have experienced being hyper-attracted to an average guy, and you wouldn't believe the things you currently believe from the blindspot you're in as a straight man. It's just conflating what men respect about men with what women are attracted to in men, which are two very different things. Hyper-Masculinity just isn't very attractive at all. Not to body shame or personality shame, but it's a little bit repellent. And most women will tell you that. (There are also things that are very Feminine and considered unattractive too... like cellulite.) So, clearly I am not as unusual as you think I am... and the study Dr. K stated in the video backs that up... as do the street interviews of women rating the most attractive male body types. Women aren't as attracted to hyper-Masculine guys as they are guys who have a mixture of hard and soft qualities... and that includes body types. You just don't understand female sexuality as well as you think you do... and you don't really get what women really find appealing about men. And I do mean MOST women. it's a shame too... because you're missing out because the attractive things about Masculinity are a lot more subtle. They whisper and they don't scream. And they come across when the man is just being himself, comfortable in his own skin, and isn't even trying to be particularly manly. Imagine women at large were under the impression that they had to garishly exaggerate their Femininity to the degree that they made themselves less attractive. Like if 90% of women thought they needed to look like the lady in the image below to be interesting to men. Then, you tried to tell women (of varying levels of attractiveness) that they don't need to exaggerate their Femininity to the highest degree to be attractive to men, and they said, "No way. That is the very best way to get lots of men interested in sleeping you is to exaggerate your Femininity as much as possible." And you'd be like, "Sure. If that's what you want." But you said so yourself that that isn't what you want... and that you're looking for one partner. And while most men would like to have a promiscuous phase, most men would also eventually like to have women see them as longterm relationship material and don't want to come across like a raging fuckboy on steroids... which most discerning women will filter out of consideration, not just because it's not good... but because it's not very attractive or appealing either. Long story short, Masculinity is most intriguing when it's subtle and unpretended... and when the fierceness of it is mixed with human tenderness enough to where you can actually connect to it intimately.

I said most... not all.

I'm just using the language that Dr. K is using. I know that alpha and beta isn't primarily about physical appearance. But many men believe they have to be these hyper-Masculine alpha-looking guys who are ripped with a 6-pack to have women interested in them. It seems that lots of young men have really internalized the notion that women are preferring the most Masculine guys... and the more Masculine the better. But too much Masculinity tends to decrease the attractiveness of a man in the eyes of most women. And that just isn't the case because very few women prefer the appearance of hyper-Masculine guys... and prefer men with more averagely strong or lean body-types. And also women tend to prefer a mixture of Masculine and Feminine features on a man. Also, "alpha"/player guys don't even give off appealing vibes.... in my opinion. They usually give off sleazy used car salesman vibes... and most women learn this by high school. I've noticed that it's mostly women who have some self-esteem issues that go for them... probably because it mirrors some childhood abandonment or insecure attachment dynamic and makes these men attractive to them.

@UpperMaster That could have played a role for her... the common demographic background. But honestly, it's about the chemistry and the human-to-human connection... and commonality of any kind just helps with that.

I preferred this when I was 20 as well.