Emerald

It seems like you both have feelings for one another. And you're trying to deny it to yourself. And she's trying to make you jealous to get you to realize that you like her. My advice is just to go with your intuition and feelings and see where it leads. Don't let your ideas over-ride your intuition.

I just wrote this above. But I'm telling you that hot girls are usually not treated well. They are usually treated exploitatively and interchangeably. And both men and women tend to resent very attractive women. Your best bet for being treated well as a woman (attractive or not attractive) is to have a lot of self-respect and boundaries... and to have a lot of things going for yourself. You have to be self-possessed if you want respect. You 100% get treated better and with more respect with the latter in comparison to just the former. And I do mean in society at large. I can tell you (and most women could tell you) from personal experience that basic respect and human dignity is WAY better than the princess treatment... because the princess treatment comes with some pretty gnarly strings attached.

Go talk to a woman who is 8/10+ about how she's treated. Women in this category tend to be harassed a lot. It tends to be a little bit like the goose that laid the golden egg. Tons of men will flock to you for their own selfish purposes. That's really what the "princess" treatment usually is. And that's why a great many women are resistant to being treated that way. And you don't even need to be that level attractive to be treated that way. Trust me when I say it doesn't really feel good when the "freebies" are all about trying to buy you. And you know that this "nice" treatment is only based upon something superficial and temporary about yourself. So, it isn't really something to be desired. Though I understand that men don't have experience with being approached by masses and masses of women, and the male instinct does have an urge towards many women. So, from the male perspective, it may feel like, "No fair. Why do women get all the luck?" But it's honestly like trying to find a genuine personal message in an inbox that's 99% spam dressed up (with varying degrees of efficacy) to look like personal messages.

No. They weren't "testing" you. That's not really something where women just pick a random guy and do it to them. They were either just talking to you, which I'm thinking is quite a bit more likely. Or they decided to mess around with you, either to flirt or to make fun. It really just depends upon their energy and how pushy they were. If they weren't pushy, then it's definitely them just talking to you. If they were pushy, they might have been trying to make fun or flirt.

I'm giving you a fair critique. It's not about making your work idiot-proof. You'd never succeed. I'm not saying you should be perfect about it because that's just not possible. I'm saying that it's unwise to share your teachings in a way that's easily misconstrued (and used for devilry) by the majority of people... especially since you have such a large public platform. I saw like two or three people on this thread alone that took your insight and the way you shared it and then they were like, "Yep! I agree with Leo. Junk food is good for me." And I know that's ridiculous. But people are ridiculous. And as a leader, you would be wise to be more responsible with teaching people in a manor that doesn't so easily lead to devilry and self-deception. Here on the forum, you seem to prefer sharing things with a short punchy style where you can portray a demeanor of certainty and firmness. But this style really seems to backfire if your goal is to elucidate things to your audience and get them to understand. All I'm saying is that it would be wise to at least try to avoid being purposefully cryptic.

Way too many people are taking what you're saying and using it to self-deceive themselves into believing McDonalds and other forms of junk food is good for their bodies. Just look at this thread. I understand what you're trying to say, in terms of the existence of anything and everything being literally amazing. And I know that you're not a proponent of unhealthy eating. And I see that you also enjoy the irony of how even things that are not good are actually truly amazing. But before sharing this teaching in a quick, punchy, and ironic way, you'd be wise to consider being more clear in your teaching as a great number of people in your audience look up to you and will take your words at face value, and use them to justify behaviors that are to their detriment. Also, consider that most people will not benefit from these higher up truths like "everything is amazing" because they're just not there yet. They have not experienced it. You're like a 2nd grade teacher trying to teach college level calculus sometimes.

You are very much God. You are both part of it and all of it. You are creating a duality where there is none, and thus Not being non-dual in your perspective on God. God is no less God in any form it takes. Creation and Creator are not separate, nor is one more or less God than the other.

@Rilles @wwhy You guys are arguing over nature vs nurture. But you seem to have no firsthand experience with the desire for feminine beautification. So, you have no empirical grounding to argue from. What I can say is that, regardless of where that drive comes from, it feels good to feel beautiful. And at a certain point, you have to just let yourself do what feels good to you, regardless of whether it comes from nature or nurture. Women's tendencies are scrutinized far more than men's tendencies. And they are seen as stemming from negative conditioning far more than men's tendencies are. This is why everyone freaks out when little girls like playing with dolls or like the color pink far more than people freak out when little boys like playing with cars and action figures. And while I agree it's not a good thing to limit children's enjoyment of any toy regardless of the target market gender... it's also not a good thing to convince little girls that they don't really like what they actually like and that it's all a matter of patriarchal conditioning. The underlying issue here is that we see boys/men's preferences as superior to girls/women's preferences, so we try to correct the feminine preferences by seeing it as conditioned in to keep girls disempowered. And the idea that a truly empowered girl will like the same things as boys will like. But this means that we see feminine preferences as inherently inferior, conditioned in, and disempowering while seeing masculine preferences as inherently superior, natural, and empowering. No one really bats an eye when a man wants to be a body builder. We don't go thinking about how he's following social norms or how he's being influenced by the female gaze. We just go, "Oh, that's a masculine preference. No big deal." We see it as something that adds to his power. But when a woman wears beautiful clothing and make-up, the detectives come out and in every way that women diverge from masculine preferences and ask, "Hmm... why would women want to look beautiful?" "It must be the pressure of the male gaze." "It must be because of pressure from the workplace." "It must be because they're trying to attract men." etc. But the subjective reality is for women who enjoy fashion and make-up, is that it's fun and it feels good to feel pretty. Subjectively, it feels very empowering to feel stunning. And while there can be a ton of different natural drives or social influences that influence that "fun/feel good/empowering" feeling, women are not usually consciously thinking of that. It just feels good. And women who do consciously think of all the underlying reasons why they like make-up and fashion, can develop a resistance to a form of self-expression that they really enjoy. They can become bitter about something that would otherwise bring them joy. But ultimately, if you've never experienced the feminine drive toward beautification, then you're just theorizing because you don't understand it.

@wwhy Fun trivial fact about crocodilians: Alligators (and maybe crocodiles, though I'm not sure) eat very little. The amount they eat is equivalent to if a human being ate one sandwich a week.

In any situation where a woman accuses a man of rape, half or more of the people will be saying... "How do we know she's not lying?" "She's too ugly to be raped!" "Remember, he's innocent until proven guilty!" "What was she wearing?" "Why did she wait so long to say something?" It happens every time. Rape apologists and doubters come out of the woodwork EVERY time a woman comes forward about a rape.

Go out and meet people in the real world. Don't base it off of social media as social media paints a distorted image of the world.

Though beauty standards are a menace, I can confidently say that fashion and make-up are a form of self-expression for the majority of women. It just happens to be a form of self-expression that engages many cultural complications and wounds around femininity. It's a little bit like loving to play the violin, but your hands are covered in blisters. So, you have to endure the blisters to play it. So, what you must understand is that many women love to use make-up and clothing for self-expression. Just like a little girl who gets into her mother's make-up and revels in playing dress up. It's just hard to unpick from all the weird societal stuff. So, it's very much not bullshit. If I didn't resonate with it, I wouldn't do it.

I've done that before. And lots of girls do this. It just feels good to feel beautiful. That's all.

The feminine beautification instinct is just there. But if I were to parse it out, I'd say that the "reasons" are multi-faceted. Attraction is one of them. Power is another. Persona creation is yet another. But as a woman, I can tell you that none of that is going through my mind usually. It just feels really good when I feel beautiful. It just hits an emotional button that feels good. And I've had this instinct since I was like 3 or 4 years old. I always wanted to wear my mom's clothes and make-up. But yet again, I was very romantically precocious too and had crushes back then too. So, it's hard to separate the instinct from my sexuality. And it definitely gets the libidinal energy flowing. But am I thinking about the men that will be attracted to me? Not usually. Most of the time, if I am imagining anything, it's more of a persona thing where I imagine myself stepping into my power and my clothing and make-up being an element of that. But I would guess that most women are not consciously thinking about men when they wear make-up, unless a particular guy has struck their fancy.

Obviously some women do that. It's not that uncommon to find women who are gold diggers. But it's also not the majority of women... nor is it the majority of very attractive women. Most women are looking for a partner because it feels good to have a partner in and of itself. It has natural rewards and dopamine/serotonin/oxytocin hits built in. So, the majority of women are interested in their partner for more organic, instinctual, connection-based reasons. But there is a sizable minority of women who are only looking for a man for what he can provide. But these women are pretty obvious to spot. There are tons of warning signs usually.

I just got mine today about 6 hours ago. I got the J and J shot, so I don't have to go back for a second one. So far, no side effects.

Yin and Yang always go together in everything. They are never separate. Shiva and Shakti dance together within the macrocosm of the universe and in the microcosm of atom. They exist as complements within every living and non-living system. But if we draw some broad strokes, detachment from outcome is Yin, while aiming toward a particular outcome is Yang. Yang goes from point a to point b as it has a set destination and goal. Yin starts at point a and ends up where the wind blows it. That said, detachment from outcome, which is Yin must happen before certain Yang traits can be tapped into... such as rationality. This is why you can't really integrate one side without integrating the other. Everything has both energies and they're always intricately intertwined on every layer of everything. You can paint some broad strokes and say that "This thing is masculine" or "This thing is feminine" which are true in an approximate way... but in the nuances there is always both. Another example of this would be in connecting to personal sovereignty. Personal sovereignty is Yang/masculine in the sense that it enables you to set boundaries and be strong. But it is Yin/feminine in the sense that personal sovereignty CANNOT be achieved without being intimately aware of and sensitive to the emotions and the instincts which are Yin. And this is because emotions/feelings/instincts is your inner compass that lets you know that you're setting boundaries in accordance with your personal sovereignty. If you try to set boundaries and gather strength from the mind, which is Yang, then you will not be able to. Your boundaries will either be too hard or too soft, as you won't be connected with the body (which is Yin). Basically, polarity is more nuanced than most people fathom it to be. And because Yin and Yang are never separate, trying to integrate one without the other won't happen.

It doesn't change as a woman becomes more conscious. (Except in the case of when she works through her traumas... because traumas create incredibly magnetic attraction points. Most attraction comes from mirrored traumas actually. But setting that exception to the side...) What changes is that a woman realizes what she wanted the whole time and can then go for what she wants more directly. Women don't have a lot of resources for self-discovery because society is geared toward the masculine perspective. So, it is difficult for women to learn about their feminine side. Women want intimacy, surrender, and deep connection. And women are looking for a man with the qualities of a good father. I wish I could bring you into the feminine perspective to show you what that looks like. Not to be offensive in saying this, but men don't ever seem to understand what integrated masculinity looks like. It's very subtle. But most women, until they dive deeply in themselves are unconscious to this drive. So, they search for it an a shadowy and manipulative (and often ineffective) way. And they seek it from male partners who can never give that to them who mirror them in their own disintegration. And that becomes part of the allure because it mirrors their internal situation. So, you have to understand that there are layers of dysfunction in the average person. And these layers of dysfunction are the reason why men and women tend to play the game quite brutally and in a zero-sum fashion. And I would encourage you to look at dating and relationship from more conscious integrative perspectives as opposed to boiling it all down into a zero-sum game. Otherwise, it will be a self-fulfilling prophesy for you. You will attract only what you're willing to see. And then, you'll only see what you attract. And you will only attract women who (like you) are only out for their own agenda.... because you both assume that dating is a competition of agendas that someone must lose. Now, I get why this is more difficult for men. Your game is a numbers game. And the masses have many shades of dysfunction. For a woman, there is no sense of scarcity. And so, we can find one that matches our personality and sensibilities. And we will attract whoever most matches our strengths, our weaknesses, and our traumas. But if you want a conscious relationship with a partner, you'll have to find a woman who is more self-aware... which means, she won't be playing unconscious games where it all boils down to a battle of agendas.

Just keep following your intuition, and it will lead you where you're meant to go. If that ends the relationship, it wasn't the right relationship. If it strengthens the relationship, good. But the main thing is to do what you feel good doing without regard to the outcome. You may notice if any fear-based behaviors arise in you, and deal with those. But if you're enjoying the process here, just keep going. And if he likes it, he can stick around. The last thing I recommend is playing a game where you pretend to be less interested than you are. That's masculine energy stuff because you're striving for some outcome and sapping yourself of joy in the process. Be more Yin and outcome independent and just enjoy your time with him. And if it repels him, it was meant to.

My advice is not to listen to Leo on this one. When I was 20, I was lacking a support system and dealing with a lot of emotional upheaval. And men would invite me to their place, and I'd know what they wanted. But because I was very alone in the world at the time, I felt lacking in the capacity to turn down the company. And I would tell myself, "Just turn him down if he tries to get sex." But I was also dealing with boundary issues because of all the problems going on in my life at the time. And there were a couple guys, where I said no quite a few times before they eventually wore me down and I gave in to their advances. And it was really clear that those guys who pressured me into it thought that they really had won me over just because they eventually wore me down. They probably had some notion that I was really into it deep down and that they just needed to keep finessing me. It's just that, once it gets to a certain point, you feel like "Do I want to consent and make the best of it?" or "Do I want to resist and have this escalate into a full blown rape?" And the former is easier because you can convince yourself that no boundary breech has occurred. But I felt pretty violated the first time... and monumentally violated the second time. The second one was straight up date rape. But he had no idea. He invited me out on a date the next day as though he hadn't consistently ignored my 'no's the night before. Basically, don't be dumb. If a woman says no, it's not because she's playing hard to get. And if you eventually wear her down, it's not an indicator that you've won her consent. She just decided that it would be less dangerous/stressful to give in.

Most women who come forward about rape get accused of the crime of false accusation. The community usually prefers the narrative, "The woman that I know lied about it and the man I know is innocent" to the narrative "The woman I know was raped and the man I know is a rapist." The first narrative goes down a lot easier. So, what you have to understand is that ALL women who come forward about rape, will be falsely accused of the crime of false accusation as most people side with the rapist. Most people will always think that about her not matter what that she's lying and trying to rake a guy over the coals. I'll leave my analogy here too, so that you can understand the way that imbalance in liability shakes out... So, it's just a matter of men needing to take on more risk factor for the sake of taking some of the burden off of women's shoulders. Let's say that women's risk of rape/being accused of false accusation AND men's risk of being falsely accused of rape is symbolized by rocks. Now, men are carrying around 20 lbs of rocks everywhere they go as this represents the likelihood of them being falsely accused of rape. And women are carrying around 1000 lbs of rocks which represents the likelihood of them being raped and then accused of false accusation. Because the risk women are carrying is FAR greater than the risk men are carrying, when men get concerned about false accusation and criticize the MeToo Movement, it just looks like men trying to shovel their 20 lbs of rocks off onto women who are already carrying 1000 lbs of rocks. Men want women to carry all the risk factor and get rid of their risk factor altogether. Now, for a man who is falsely accused, of course it's terrible. But to expect that women take on all the liability of rape is just selfish. And there's already a huge issue that, when women come forward about rape, their communities don't believe them and ostracize them and side with the man. So, you're trying to feel more secure and safe and to guarantee you'll never be falsely accused (which is very unlikely to happen)... but women don't have any such exemption.

I'll just leave this here that I posted earlier. Right now, you're really upset by the 20 lbs you have to carry without any care for the 1000 lbs women have to carry. Also, most rapists never serve time in jail. So, even rightfully accused people tend to get off scott-free in the case of a rape. "So, it's just a matter of men needing to take on more risk factor for the sake of taking some of the burden off of women's shoulders. Let's say that women's risk of rape/being accused of false accusation AND men's risk of being falsely accused of rape is symbolized by rocks. Now, men are carrying around 20 lbs of rocks everywhere they go as this represents the likelihood of them being falsely accused of rape. And women are carrying around 1000 lbs of rocks which represents the likelihood of them being raped and then accused of false accusation. Because the risk women are carrying is FAR greater than the risk men are carrying, when men get concerned about false accusation and criticize the MeToo Movement, it just looks like men trying to shovel their 20 lbs of rocks off onto women who are already carrying 1000 lbs of rocks. Men want women to carry all the risk factor and get rid of their risk factor altogether. Now, for a man who is falsely accused, of course it's terrible. But to expect that women take on all the liability of rape is just selfish. And there's already a huge issue that, when women come forward about rape, their communities don't believe them and ostracize them and side with the man. So, you're trying to feel more secure and safe and to guarantee you'll never be falsely accused (which is very unlikely to happen)... but women don't have any such exemption."

Yes, exactly. It's about creating a culture where it's less punishing to come forward about rape.

The statistics for false rape accusations are the same for false accusations of any crime... which is about 2%. Rape accusations are not more likely to false compared to any other crime.

So, it's just a matter of men needing to take on more risk factor for the sake of taking some of the burden off of women's shoulders. Let's say that women's risk of rape/being accused of false accusation AND men's risk of being falsely accused of rape is symbolized by rocks. Now, men are carrying around 20 lbs of rocks everywhere they go as this represents the likelihood of them being falsely accused of rape. And women are carrying around 1000 lbs of rocks which represents the likelihood of them being raped and then accused of false accusation. Because the risk women are carrying is FAR greater than the risk men are carrying, when men get concerned about false accusation and criticize the MeToo Movement, it just looks like men trying to shovel their 20 lbs of rocks off onto women who are already carrying 1000 lbs of rocks. Men want women to carry all the risk factor and get rid of their risk factor altogether. Now, for a man who is falsely accused, of course it's terrible. But to expect that women take on all the liability of rape is just selfish. And there's already a huge issue that, when women come forward about rape, their communities don't believe them and ostracize them and side with the man. So, you're trying to feel more secure and safe and to guarantee you'll never be falsely accused (which is very unlikely to happen)... but women don't have any such exemption.