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Buddha developed a self help program... an eight step one.... and a religion was built around it.

This whole list is beliefs on "absolute truth" from subjective experience perspective. "be·lief an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists. trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something."

@brovakhiin Thank you.

@TheEnlightenedWon People will have awakenings and their experiences will bring a personal perspective of what they assume is 'truth' about the 'absolute'. They often then will measure it against what others express of their perspective and usually will consider their own as more accurate in comparison. This thread is a clear example of an assumption in believing one's own perspective of the 'absolute' is 'truth' and an intolerance of another's perspective.

Mmhmm.... honestly....haha

BAHA!

Or what... hehe

Yes, it is. This is why I question when some speak in absolute terms, there is a paradox in that the 'absolute' is relative in how each one of us experiences it.

Well, philosophical truth is a kind of truth unto itself since it depends on how one defines their own philosophy. Some people's philosophy is to be factually accurate but some only seek to be consistent with their own philosophy even if it's not to be factual. Spiritual 'truth' would be closer to the latter of those two but may not necessarily be as 'true' in logical terms so for philosopher's who seek rational consistency that type of spiritual truth may fall short of their criteria. People undoubtedly develop a certain bias in life and often another's bias appears unfit for them so may not accept another's 'truth' and may not view it as 'credible' depending on their own bias. The 'credibility' that is accepted on this forum is different than that on a scientific forum and different than on one for philosophy even if those latter two are more similar. Then if we go to a religious forum what they deem credible would be vastly different than any other forum with even from different religions. Philosophical 'truth' would seek at least to be self consistent of being true to it's own standard. That's how I view it, it may not be acceptable to everyone's perspective, though.

Haha... an "enlightenment" list is hilarious. Can I ask a question without being accused of ill intention? What if someone has a different experience from what's listed, even what some would consider a contrary experience to some or any of these?

So you believe you have no beliefs. You believe you can assess what is false. You believe that your assessments are accurate. You believe you can read my intention. You believe I "don't get it". I'm not here to cause conflict, I asked clear questions on a comment you made about "false myths" since you felt it important enough to warn the forum about it. I wanted to hear what you thought they were since you warned on it. I also made simple observations about this discussion, if you feel conflict it's your own self centered movements and actions. It doesn't matter how many here come to your defense or chime in with support, your contradictory belief paradigm is very clear. I don't claim to know what's best for others but from your own comments I suggest you may want to stop playing headless enlightened guy online as much as you do and stop blocking out your family as you admit you do with this stuff or you may "loose" them for good. Of course if that happened then you could have your dream of being always headless and live in a cave somewhere like a monk. Life is a wonderful gift so having a family with the joy and love of sharing it with them is worthy of cherishing it as if what goes on in the world doesn't remind us to be thankful for it and not forsake it. Whatever you choose and what results from those choices I do wish you to be well and at peace.

I understand with such clarity it's obvious you feigning cognitive dissonance is so transparent. The projection of criticism and antagonism or just your 'headless' attempt at deflection. At least at least try to stay 'true' to your beliefs and stop acting from self centered 'feelings'. HHaha

You played yourself, it wasn't criticism, it's observation but if you feel criticized by it then you may want to examine your own self. Ah... there it is.... keep a foot in "reality", huh? What is the point of blocking out life? Blocking out your family? It's you who believes this "headless" state has value, there is no authority or objective measure to suggest that it is truth, right, better, enlightenment or anything other than your preference, it's just the way you choose to believe. Some might even say it's the opposite of being present, that it's being absent in going from the zombie hypnosis of self consumed to the zombie hypnosis of headless escapism isn't an example of being awakened and awareness of presence in reality. You are welcome to believe anyway you wish to and I won't call it "false" but when you are calling the way others live 'false' you are just living a belief paradigm of your own dogma with judgement, not free from judgement of "centerlessness". This is the clarity of simple observation....if you feel criticized by it then ask "who" is it that is getting criticized? Baha

Oh, so your authoritative assumption is for "only the known of the false".....well I must admit this is a unique claim but that implies you know truth to distinguish it. Alhough, even if you wantl to say you only know false it's just according tp your perception so to use absolute terms is an assumption from your own belief paradigm.

There you are still saying what it is or is not as if you have some authoritative view of it. Then trying to obscure your authoritative assumptions by saying you have to see it for yourself. Well I do have a clarity that allows me to see right through any assumptions of absolute truth and when you climb that mountain you'll understand.

@Shin I was just sharing my experience on laughing too much on this forum...hehe

Well, I cannot enlighten you to it, you will have to discover it for yourself. HAHA

I agree, it is a joke, that's why I laugh so often on this forum. HAHA

I have been criticized for laughing on this forum so be aware that some will question your motives for laughing. Apparently a sense of humor is only funny when it's them ridiculing others with false narratives they make up in their head.

Oh... so that's the only thing you've said this whole "post enlightenment observations" thread? It's been you only repeating "think for yourself" over and over in various ways? My apologies...

You were sharing a warning about false myths of enlightenment and I was wondering what those were since you felt it important enough to mention it. It appears you like to share lots of definitive sounding statements using absolute terms and when questioned about what you've shared you then "share" we need to figure it our for our self. Maybe you should start with figure it our for yourself and stay with that because all the definitive statements using absolute terms may be found to be false myths, no?

I thought you said you were going to deal with it? I guess you may want to examine yourself more closely.

Bahahahahahaaaaa!

Well, thanks for sharing yours, too.

If it's not serious then I have to wonder why warn others about false myths? That's who I was asking initially about it even though you felt it was serious enough to ask me why so serious. If you have a problem with me asking of others who warn about false myths and speak authoritatively about it then you might as well deal with that, too.