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People will think they don't have a belief paradigm of thoughts while warning others about thoughts.......haha

@Charlotte Well, thinking about being aware in the present moment is a thought, actually being aware in the present moment doesn't require a thought... even though one can observe a thought while being aware in the present moment.

By using awareness in the present moment... @NoSelfSelf

Every thing we experience in every moment is accessing the subconscious, each moment is the drip drip drip that the accumulating effect of the present moment's experience upon the subconscious mind.

He really does embrace the self suffering ego narrative and if he was just teaching methods and practices to people for the cessation of suffering even if it is to a very specific cultural niche then more power to him. It's not anything I would encourage but the last thing I want to allow happen is my own being agitated by him or his people. Although, he surely goes full fundy extreme minded over ideological diversity that comes from his moralizing which he justifies the use of vitriolic intent towards others. I kind of like him though, I enjoyed his stuff, his lectures, before he blew up in attention from the other issues. I avoid his stuff now.

Wait... is that a 'no thank you' or 'no, thank you'.... the comma changes the whole meaning.... haha

Um...'meatego'? Or 'selfflesh'?

@cetus56 gave a very good simple explanation. Others gave more complicated ones to varying degrees. @Flow With Life gave the Buddhist tradition explanation which is very interesting even if it's old so sounds a bit archaic. It seems all the explanations have added to the confusion of it so I hesitate to still add even more but I will try maybe a different tact. Obviously it's difficult to describe the abstract although I think it can be understood in a simple way like cetus attempted. Think of awareness as gold in it's natural form, unrefined and as if we have found it as nuggets coming out of the ground in the natural state of it. Perception is a piece of jewelry made from that gold, the primary contributor of material to the jewelry is the gold but to be a piece of jewelry there is a process of refinement and crafting that includes other elements of jewels and skill to craft which brings it to be the piece of jewelry, to be perception. It's made primarily of the raw material of gold/awareness but it is not the raw state of material, it's been crafted to be perception through experience. It's not a perfect metaphor and I won't try to extrapolate it into a more complicated comparison but I think it's enough that it communicated the relationship between these two abstract ideas. They may not be the exact same thing conceptually but perception is 'made' from awareness. Maybe this helps clarify it some, if not, my apologies to @Ingit if I added to the confusion.

Edits are illusions..... raw....cough cough... r! heh

That's an illusion of nothingness. rawr!

Um... well yea being is totally obvious..... it is ubiquitous.... if one is an aware being. heh

An image loves....?.....to imitate? I am being... it may be a simulation or an illusion or a vision maybe a revelation, but I am being. Whatever it is. rawr!

What does a 'being' need? A be-er? Ok thanks I'll have one....it will help with all of this thought talk.... I will be-er about unity infinity. rawr!

Do you know what the lizard brain is? The phenomenon of fragasaurus.....rawr!

Yes, thoughts have hijacked your experience.... I talk about being, awareness and consciousness, you talk about thought self ego fear.... what is the focus of your attention? Not subtle it's so obvious. Hah

Then why do you post so much stuff on this forum analyzing about the characteristics and behavior of thoughts? It sure is a lot of complicated pointing, pages of pointing at thoughts.....haha

Any movement of thought self insight you think you are getting is part and parcel of the content of consciousness. You imagine about thought movement and yet others imagine thoughts are sticky and both visions of the content work for the viewer of it. Those two characteristics in the imagery are very differing perspectives of how thought and/or self exists or behaves within consciousness.....from that there's still some climbin' up the tree before we get to whole... unity.....holistic. Being......

@Faceless Let me give a hint. Content of consciousness...... Content of thought....... I could go complicated about it but it can be simply viewed on what's skewed too.

@Faceless Read my long post that he quotes and explain in it where he misunderstands/distorts/ignores what I said. If you are as attentive as you suggest it will be obvious. Please.

Let me do what I say not to do and get complicated. Observing our self is the simple part of it. Being aware of thoughts, emotions, senses, impulses, urges and everything that bubbles up as the content of our consciousness. This exercise of being aware but not actively attaching to what is the content in our consciousness is the simple. Just doing this simple exercise will have profound effect in consciousness. The complication comes in when we try to analyze the content of consciousness as if it has some secret message for our liberation. Does it? Or is it what keeps us bound? So if we investigate every detail and facet, break it all down so we think we know every bit of minutia about the content.... it's what? Still the content that often is what keeps us bound and suffering. All this fragment movement fear thought conceptualizing is just analyzing the content of consciousness. All systems of understanding are analyzing the content but it's the content that is to most the source of their suffering. So sifting through the baggage of consciousness isn't necessarily ceasing the suffering. What really does effect our conscious experience of ceasing suffering is breaking the bonds of attachment to the content. This doesn't mean we have to wipe it away to nothing or treat it as if it's evil incarnate because there are many ways to manage the content that fits each of our situations, there's no one way to do so. Although, mitigating or breaking the attachment to the content, whatever we ultimately do with that content, can reduce and cease the self induced suffering we experience in consciousness. There is nothing wrong with analyzing the content but often the ego seizes on the process and uses it to continue the suffering, not being a cessation of it. The simple approach is the passive observation of the content and letting it all just be what it is, the complicated approach is the analyzing of content as if there is meaning to it. One isn't right and the other wrong, they are what they are. Hopefully that wasn't too complicated.

We? You speaking for others again? Not so apparent you do understand.

It is easy to understand, it's contradictory and convoluted. Point to someone else and say 'you aren't paying attention' yet be unaware of one's own inattentiveness. Oh....and be authoritative while doing it using words like must, can't, never or always. Hah

You can say it's not but there are more than two dozen pages of words that prove otherwise.

This system of interpretation it the very antithesis of dynamic, it's quite codified into a rather static method of understanding. Words mean specifically certain things and the ideas conform to presupposed conditions. All of this meticulously compared with other's experiences here and it has organized interpretations. This is a rigid system, not dynamic at all.... it may be an exercise of rigidity in the present moment but for it to be a dynamic exercise the variables wouldn't be static as well as it would account for the perspective of individual experience.

Yes, indeed. Peace. @Faceless