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So you didn't notice the part about nonduality in my original comment? I can admit it was written cryptically in a sort of riddle but if someone could understand what was being said through it the comment has direct relevance to confusion, conflation and differences between 'types' of nonduality. There are only confusion, conflation and differences from the dual perspective, from the nondual perspective and more specifically, the metanonduality, those aren't there. It's simply the paradox of being aware of what one isn't aware before being aware of it. A teacher cannot present a lesson the student cannot grasp, the ideas have to be contextualized for the level of the student, or they won't be useful to them. You have to teach a child how to write before you can teach them to write a book.

Well, to be clear, it's an awareness phenomenon. We may come across some teaching or discourse that can trigger us to become aware of something we previously weren't aware of. This is what some call 'awakening' and the absolute form of awakening that some people call 'enlightenment'. It isn't a reasoning process of dialogue between opposing viewpoints to resolve truth through rational examining of contradiction. It is transcending that dialectical process, realizing there is no dualism of contradiction to examine. On a relative level is where this takes place, on an absolute level it's not relevant. The trigger isn't the point...life is a trigger without a warning, which is why few 'awaken' through its devices. I hope this clarifies.

So you don't recognize how this is relevant in a 'confusion about nonduality' thread? Um...ok.

Grok doesn't think it's a crock either... and from chatgpt Hm...

In the same way that once one stops seeking it is realized that it always is, so once one stops wanting to know, everything is knowable.

Oh, I thought it was just a joke which would have been fine. Simply put, my point was that any confusion one may have about nonduality stems from the perception of it or what someone is teaching about it. Nonduality doesn't have separation within it, it is the unified in its absolute nature.

I understand that stray 'l' in metanonduality may have caused some confusion, the matter has been resolved and I appreciate your feedback on the matter.

It does come with fries if you get the combo.

That's just a derivative of Egosackly which is just the bag we keep all of our selfness in.

Once one perceives metanonduality it is realized there is no duality in nonduality to be confusing, there's just perception of nonduality that some may confuse as confusion.

Truth is not in words or in concepts imagined Abiding is truth

Although, misdirection is an activity. You asking a loaded question you think you know the answer to is an exercise and then you trying to misdirect that to something else is also an exercise. Of course, you will probably retort with that there is no 'you' that is 'doing' this so exercise the misdirection even more.

The forum littered with your posts, it's evidence of stumbling on the obstacle you created for yourself. An absence of the imagined conditions would be an example of a blank mind because conditions you have created is mind chatter. Suggesting others are bound by the conditions you imagine for yourself and that you are helping them be free from what you are imagining is mind chatter. 'Truth' is not what you say it is, it is true when you abide in it.

...and yet you keep explaining and explaining in thread after thread with post after post. Curious behavior from someone who claims to have a blank mind, no chattering and has no 'you'.

Begging the question is not asking a question, it's a disingenuous exercise in seeking what one thinks they already know. Read the quote in your own signature.

Again, you are not replying to my message, it appears as if you are responding to your own mind thus proving you are still blocked by the obstacle you create for yourself.

Of course, you cannot see any other way, it's what you have created for yourself and placed in the way. It's a self fulfilling prophesy, since you have envisioned the obstacle and constructed it. If you had not, it would not and then you could see another way.

How is this a response to my message? Please clarify. It would serve no benefit in pointing to all the other activity in the mind that exists in addition to chattering.

If you imagine 'must' then 'must' it is for you but don't project your 'must' on some imagined others, let go of the musty....or not, you can stay musty.

If someone creates a condition for 'x' to be...whatever it is you prefer to call that 'x', enlightenment or awakening or liberation or god realization or whatever, then it is you who puts that condition between it. It isn't there if you don't create that separation from it. So if it's mind chatter or emotions or ego or suffering or whatever one would say is the condition that keeps them from it, is what keeps them from it. Without placing that condition in the way it isn't in the way, it doesn't serve as the obstacle that separates. It is also the same with suggesting there is only one way or some specific circumstances to be it, then it is the one who believes it is this thing then it is them who has that which they created for themselves. Not anyone else though, to say it is this way for me so it is for you is creating imagined obstacles for others. Someone might say to me aren't you creating that condition for others? I'm not creating the condition for others to abide by, I'm just pointing at the presence or absence of them.

I have had many wonderful interactions with people through being genuinely kind and 'nice', even with women and some of them included physical interactions. Could it be that you aren't really a kind person but only are pretending to be one to get something from others. Just a possibility, I guess.

Well, that's what happens when one gets heated and friction causes heat.

So you are pissed in your pool? Hm... still doesn't exclude you from being peaced in your pool, though.

Bringing clarity to contention is like pouring clear water into a muddy pool, it doesn't make the pool clear and only serves to muddy what is poured into it. The way to clear the pool is to abide in stillness and the pool eventually clears.

Um...about that.