SOUL

Let us be one.

Upon reading your post something along these lines is what I was going to say. Too often we try to label and understand with concepts to satisfy the egos desire for identity. Just celebrating what is as it is with appreciation for being present in that moment is a fulfillment that transcends all limiting beliefs. Allowing oneself to be open to the infinite possibility will always invite ourselves to be a conduit for healing in any way that it happens

Yes! Baba-onezie..........haha

Wait... are you wearing a onezie? Or maybe your hoodie and pants kinda match so it looks like it. I want it to be a cosmic onezie. Hehe

I don't owe you any suggestions or advice and it appears your own mind doesn't owe you the ability to detect sarcasm.

What if she is already 'enlightened' and experiences the cessation of self suffering while you are just trying to 'master' it and still suffering? Heh

Well, I didn't ask for an answer or offer you a question, which I don't owe you.

I don't owe you an answer.

I have a huge cult but nobody gives me any money, nobody listens to a word I say, nobody even realizes they are in my cult and you can't even get out of it even if you try..... it's the ultimate subliminal cult. Haha

BAHA! .....hehe

I challenge opinions, perspective and perceptions of beloved gurus, Leo, accepted 'non-duality' and 'spirituality' quite a bit. What I try not to do is attack someone or make it personal even though sometimes it may be justified to do so because how productive or beneficial the discussion is is more important than ego appeasing.

Wait, how does someone stop another from doing inner work? Haha

Asking if the ego can die or stay dead is like asking if a rock can die or stay dead.

Our mind uses belief to navigate in the physical world, it's natural and an unconscious process so we cannot stop our mind from doing so. The difference is the identity attaching story the ego builds around beliefs about self are the ones that will cause self suffering if challenged. A 'system' of beliefs are a bunch of individual beliefs that rely on each other and support each other so challenging one belief may challenge the network of them. This is why if they are built around self identity they are more fragile to the ego and can cause self suffering if a single one is challenged since the whole identity is challenged because of the one being so. If you are seeking to limit self suffering then to limit the amount of self identity beliefs will help in that regard. Although, deluding yourself into believing you don't have any beliefs at all is just that, a self delusion, since it is a self belief of 'I don't have any beliefs' which isn't factual so may again cause self suffering when one is confronted with the reality of the mind's natural beliefs. If you want to know if a belief is a self belief or a natural life functioning one is ask yourself if the 'truth' of the belief exists apart from the belief in it. Such as you don't jump off a cliff because you 'believe' in gravity but if you don't believe in it do you still fall? It can get more complicated as the beliefs become more abstract such as does one believe they are a success? If we look at it from a physical point of view every moment we are alive is a success, that's the only measure of success as an individual biological organism. As a more complex social creature our ideas of success may be more complicated than just the animal's survival. Then is where we'd have to examine the network of ideas we believe to find the ones attached to self identity. As a simple matter of the way I view it is I prefer to have as few beliefs as needed to survive but I don't obsess over the amount I have because attaching identity to how much I have would cause self suffering. So if a belief doesn't exist unless I believe it then I just don't believe it, so that's it, nothing more than that. If the belief is a functional one it doesn't really matter if I believe in it so I'm not exercising my voluntary belief muscle of the mind so to speak. If it's a necessary component to life sustain the mind will unconsciously account for it without me having to actively believe it to be. So some might say, well, isn't this just all a belief system I have about belief systems? Yup, it sure is...it's a belief system used to limit the belief system of self identity and cease self suffering. It's works in my experience of being present to liberate from self suffering.

Hey look, it's another 'bullshit' thread...... I guess that's what Leo gets for making a video calling everything bullshit. Haha

So when will you transcend the seeking the ultimate truth perspective? Just wondering.....

Funny how people can overthink it.....under the guise of not thinking it. Heh

He used to post on the forum and exited from it with a 'I'm leaving' thread so I decided to watch one of his videos. He basically is using 'enlightenment' as another accomplishment, yes with all the spiritual terminology to adorn it but it's just another merit badge on his ego's scout vest.

It isn't really stored... it's present moment experience, it's in awareness of being here now. The path we are on is us discovering and transcending the containers that the mind perceives consciousness is stored in. Does that clarify?

Some people have self important or moralistic perceptions of their own life choices in comparison to others, don't let those people's attitudes influence how you perceive your own choices. If you don't intend to harm others and your actions bring as little harm to yourself and others as you can reasonably do then just find your way and be at peace with it.

No can do brotha because it's you replying to you through me..... again. hehe

I chose for me to reply to me through what appears to be you...again.

So I see I chose to create this thread.....again. BAHA

That's amazing! You're almost at peace with just being... other than the 'at peace' part of it since there seems to still be some unrest going on in you about just being. It's kind of paradoxical but getting to where we are simply at peace with just being is the 'non-activity' that empowers liberation. The yearning for something to attain or to do something has almost been quenched so a genuine peace in awareness of just being present will blossom in liberation. That you are still a little bit restless in it isn't an indication that there is something amiss, it's just the body's natural inclination to desire something. Once you experience that genuine peace in just being that is when actual fulfillment from just being present will quench the accomplishment based satiation from desire as counter intuitive as it sounds. The liberation from the existential yearning creates a sense of peace and fulfillment that surpasses any of the achievement or situational ones because it exists regardless of any conditions or circumstances. We are at peace with just being so fulfillment is being present and anything we add to it is just that, adding to already existing fulfillment and peace but not the indulgence in feeding the craving for self serving which will continue to be a cycle of desire for something. Some may say then you won't want to do anything or will lose all motivation of purpose and meaning but contrary to this assumption everything we experience in liberation is fulfilled. Every experience is even more 'rewarding' because it is experienced through the lens of absolute peace and fulfillment of being present not based on meeting expectations or successes in achievement which may not be met or fail to happen so be left unfulfilled. Then anything that is done is a genuine expression of joy in doing it not a self identity creating and sustaining justification activity. Through this liberating peace in being those disingenuous activities will lose the allure and the things that are a real expression of our joy will illuminate in our experience of them. So you are on the cusp of this liberation from yearning to be at peace with just being present.....just a little bit of unrest to clear out. Kudos.

You forgot that someone will post Leo's 2hr video about X and X.... yes or no? Haha....