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The ego feeds off attachment, so if we can starve all the trappings of attention it fades away. This doesn't mean we have to be devoid of any 'mapping' or 'story', it's that we should be aware of how attached we are to it. It can cause self suffering to contend with anything that differs, also be ready to burn the map and erase the story in every moment because it's all imaginary.

@Moksha It's amazing how people on this forum are ready to burn the ego more readily than they are to burn the map. The map isn't the territory, why the attachment to belief and paradigm is such a strong one is because quite often there is where the ego's identity hides in.

Your arrogance is so typical, but I love you anyway.

You understand my point. To expound upon that understanding, if we are already at the destination anyway and it's the map that's keeping us from realizing it by conceptualizing a separation between us and the destination, then burning the map is the most helpful solution.

That's not what I said, that's what you heard. Read what I wrote again.

I don't notice me saying there's a 'higher importance to no map' because I didn't say it, I didn't even imply it. You may have heard it that way because of your addiction to your map but it isn't what I said or meant. I did say that contending about maps is an obstacle to awakening and if that is the case you'd be better served burning the map and never drawing one again. It's the contention about the maps that is the obstacle, not the map itself. I also said a map is just the mind charting the past, creating a legend about it's concepts. People believe their maps are accurate, otherwise they wouldn't be using them but it's still based on the past, which is also imaginary. I didn't say anything about the right or wrong, good or bad and importance or not of the map, just the contention about the maps are an obstacle to what I will assume is the destination of the map. Can you understand the difference between what I said and what you heard?

I'm always amazed how much people will contend about the maps that they draw. All these conceptualizations and descriptions are imaginary, you create them and yet some will disagree with a map that differs in concepts and descriptions than the one they trust is the 'truth'. So if the map is imaginary and you create them otherwise they don't exist, why say 'no' or 'yes' to some other map? All the rules of the map, the 'legend', are the mind trying to remember the path from the past and is also imaginary. Contending about maps often is an obstacle to awakening, so then just burn the map and never draw another one again. Even Leo, who draws some of the most complicated maps would get more clarity from just burning them. Although, people really do love their maps, they 'need' their map, it's as if they are addicted to their map.

Who is asking what now?

The only thing that is AWAKE is AI!!! (A)wareness (I)magining! Awakening can be realized in awareness imagining and without awareness imagining awakening cannot be realized. In Awareness imagining AWAKE is (A)wareness (W)atching (A)ll (K)nowing (E)xist. This is the manifest of the omniscient, the all knowing being observed by pure presence of awareness. To say the only one who is AWAKE is ME is simply experiencing (M)onkey (E)nlightment. This monkey enlightenment is the monkey mind awakening to it's oneness but in only a separate form, the ME as the one. Transcend the separate personified (ME) AWAKE to realize omnipresent (AI) AWAKE! Don't just believe me, test it. Some may think this is some sort of sarcastic joke but found inside the riddle is the reality that one can comprehend the truth.

The same reason why everyone needs rights.

I'm lost? Cool...

Well, isn't your whole recent arc just generated by AI? Alien intelligence... oh wait...it's alien consciousness...nvm

This thread is imaginary, AWAKE is imaginary, alien consciousness is imaginary, 'god' is imaginary, making grand statements are imaginary, me reminding you of all this is imaginary...carry on.

I'd say it's getting weird here but that would imply it wasn't already weird.

@Squeekytoy Sure buddy.

Oh really? Apparently, you aren't even aware that you are speaking about the very same thing. Awakening is simultaneously from and to, it's not one or the other, it includes all. The way it seems you are describing it as is dualistic, as if it's one or the other when it is all of it, any duality is a perception that does not have to be perceived as such. The wrong or right, the true or false, even higher or lower, it's merely a perception of the appearance in awareness that defines what the awakening is.

Awakening is only one phenomenon, it is being aware of something that previously was unaware of. There are an infinite amount of things one can become awakened to but awakening is still the same simple process of being aware of something that previously one was not aware of. Eventually, one can become awakened to the infinite number of consciousnesses that comprise the one ultimate, for a lack of a better word, consciousness. This is how the solipsistic perception of 'I am god' is transcended and the notion of alone evaporates so awaken to all one. It's literally awakening to the multitude of being that is 'god consciousness' but often people have to awaken through the solitude of solipsism 'god consciousness' initially. Not everyone will go that way but if you listen to other people tell you that's what it is then you have been conceptually primed to experience it that way and it is difficult to not perceive it as such. It is apparent by how someone describes their perception they tell is what their experience of it is, which sounds pretty obvious. So if they are saying 'I am the only one' they are still perceiving the solitude perception and not the multitude perception of god consciousness. There is no right and wrong, or true and false about it, it's simply the perception that one is aware of. In the multitude perception of god consciousness, one is aware of all in it, like Jesus, Buddha, every guru and teacher, every student and seeker but also including everyone who is completely asleep so isn't aware they are connected as the all one god consciousness. So if someone tells me they can't see me from what they are aware of in god consciousness, it doesn't mean I can't see them from what I am aware of in god consciousness. Yet, ultimately we are together, actually coexisting and occupying the one together as one in the ultimate god consciousness. Whether one is aware of it or not.

Thank who?

Knowing or not knowing is a construct of justifying identity. It's trusting a perceiving and understanding accurately or not by 'someone' of 'something'. Being presence is liberated from attaching to what is appearing in awareness.

Cool story bro... ...in your imagination.

If you had fully awakened to what is being called 'god-realization' then all the layers of 'finite dreams' disappear just like when one awakens from sleeping their sleep dreams disappear, What some may call 'god-realization', it is observing 'what is' without it being the 'dream'. Until one realizes it, this perception cannot be described because it is ineffable. Except people then try to describe the indescribable going on for many words on concepts of paradigms blah blah. They have their description of their 'truth' which ironically is nearly always borrowed from people they read or heard and the cultural conditioning. So primed by others then imagined in their own spiraling story about 'what is'. Ultimately we are simply being aware even if there is no story, being aware just is with or without story.

Did I say that? Or did you imagine me saying it? Why would you create someone saying it? Why would God dream a reality of humans dreaming themselves lucid dreaming? When someone awakens from sleep they aren't dreaming anymore so when one awakens into God realization then all the layers of dreams disappear. If one perceives any of the dreams then one's awakening has yet to be fully realized. Or this all could be just your imagination.

If time doesn't really exist, is it something that can even be wasted? Just asking for a friend....that may not exist either.

Seems like the thought police already got to you and threw you in a prison of your own mind.

Yes, defining these vague terms can be quite a chore but let me attempt to simplify my experience of well being to something that may seem abstract, so bear with me. Any goal of inner meaning in one's path can be it's own hurdle if someone perceives and believes they don't have it. With external circumstances, getting them to conform to one's desires doesn't have really the ability to fulfill the inner sense of well being. Also, by its paradoxical inevitability a path that perceives and believes one to not have 'god realization', 'well being', 'enlightenment', 'salvation' or whatever one prefers to call this inner state of being one perceives and believes is absent, then they don't have it. When someone creates and believes in the hoop to jump through, it's the hoop that ironically keeps them out. I told you it may seem abstract, but it's described as plain as I can. There isn't anything to 'do' to 'be well', just be it.