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  1. 2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

    I  was basically saying, yeah but who cares if he is?  do you need him to be a certain way to live up to your expectations?  if you have to point it out in a post then maybe its triggering you in some way.

     

    Can you see how this logic also applies to you needing to point out his behaviour in your post? And also in me having to point this to point you out for pointing him out?


  2. 12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

    I love you to death man and agree with your stance on meditation but may I ask here why someones arrogance would trigger you?  And if one is become conscious of God or God realized why would they ever hero worship a projection of their own mind?  I mean you could if you wanted but if you knew it was you wouldn't that be a charade you are putting on for yourself to keep yourself in the illusion ?

    Are you sure it's not just that it really bothers you that Leo thinks you can't awaken if you haven't taken psychedelics?  That's just his style of teaching...if you haven't noticed..your not going to change anyone's mind on this forum..the attempt is fruitless.. they're only going to make a paradigm shift if they actually want to...the irony of this is the teachings are to be open minded yet almost everyone I see on the forum is paradigm locked.  So I wouldn't waste too much time trying to change Leo or anyone else I would just do your own thing :)

     

     

    This is the truth. We should all investigate the anger in us not the person that the anger is seemingly pointed at. The person has nothing to do with the anger that arises within us. If something we should actually be grateful to the person that is triggering the anger in us for revealing where we still have healing to do.


  3. Just now, OneHandClap said:

    "I'm more awake than you..."

    "There is Absolute Will (being exerted on something..."

    "My life..."

    Duality at work. Come on, Leo. Your insights are valid, but you are attached to the position of "supreme knower" through too much 5-MeO rabbit-hole dives. Show me 30 days of sober meditation, 12 hours a day, and let's see how strong your ordinary mind is. It seems like psychedelics are your shortcut to bypassing the work...

    Just like Peter Ralston told you years ago! :o

    Well he has the biggest spiritual ego in the scene at least. That's an achievement as well.


  4. You are god mistaking himself to be this separate unit. The suffering comes from this illusion of being separate. There's only one god that is infinite and it includes everything, including you and me and everyone else. The suffering is simply here to wake you up from this dream of thinking you are a separate unit. There is no one who punishes. The god lovingly allows everything to be as it is. There is no god outside of you, you are the god, infinite awareness in which all of this takes place. The suffering is created by you(god) mistaking to be this body and thoughts.


  5. 3 hours ago, Shin said:

    Mainly realizing that you're nothing in particular, or realizing that you're everything.

    But there are degrees like you can realize that you're everything but you don't realize you're God or infinite love.
    Or you can realize that there is no self, but not realizing the above and/or that everything is a giant infinite mind.

    There is like an infinite combinations of all those and more (that you can't even put into words), and some teachers have only a very specific awakening and take it for the ultimate truth.

     

    This'll explain it way better than this post:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgtPGEBGUWw

    I see. Yes of course the understanding deepens along the way. The awakening is just the beginning. Once you start embodying this that's where the true joy starts to emerge.

    I see how this way the psychedelics can be quite frustrating for some. As you can get a taste of a deeper understanding, but once you are not having the chemical effect any longer it falls off. You had a glimpse but you lost it. You need a new trip to access it but if your mindset is wrong even then you can't get it. If you progress on this path without the help of substances you can always go back to the same understanding you already had by just simply choosing so. The longer you go the more natural this becomes and it starts to be your natural way to live your life by resting as the awareness instead of pointing the focus to the experience.


  6. 48 minutes ago, wildflower said:

    Leo your position just seems vague or contradictory:

    1) If you believe what your saying, why are you talking to anyone

    2) In your God realization video you say the ultimate goal is to merge with Leo in infinite love forever... why do any of us need to do anything, if you can do it? why dont you just merge with us via DMT

    3) ~Why does your experience not effect me if we are all the same figment of imagination and not one? Clearly I can falsify this: when you smoke DMT and get supremely conscious, I don't meet you there, my experience isn't effected

    4) Why do you need anyone else if you believe what your saying: we dont even exist, all you have to do is smoke enough DMT to merge into yourself forever and destroy the universe

    5) You always seem to equivocate around this point: do you even believe anyone or anything exists outside your conscious bubble? Are you a hardcore solipsist such that Leo is the only conscious perspective to exist

    Considering how long you speak about this stuff, your position still doesn't seem clear, or that your afraid to actually make it explicit

    His faith is flickering because right now he isn't "god realized" as he puts it. He only gets it with the help of DMT. When your faith is flickering, you get this need to push your ideology to everyone else and try to convince everyone else about it. His ego has shaped itself around these experiences he gets when high. He takes them as personal achievements. There seems to be a lot of attachment to these experiences and states. In reality there is no right or wrong experience or state, they are all perfect and equal, they are all god expressing itself. 

    It's basically no different than a extremely religious person pushing his religion to everyone else saying everyone else's religions are wrong and his is right. This happens because the extremely religious person has bought the teachings in his mind and is not living the truth from his heart. The same pattern applies here.

    I'm not saying DMT isn't helpful, i'm sure it can be. It's just easy to get attached to the experiences. I'm sure once Leo can see through this it will bring massive spiritual growth with it.


  7. You suffer because you resist what is in your current experience. It's that simple. Suffering is very important thing on spiritual path as it works as a sort of an alarm bell. It's the god's way of saying "wake up from your dream". Suffering is caused by attachment to how things should be or how they should not be. This way you are not in alignment with your true nature of consciousness. Consciousness doesn't have any opinion about any life situation. It allows everything to be as it is.

    It is the finite mind in you that is resisting what is and that is what is causing the inner conflict of suffering. Suffering is completely psychological phenomenon, it's active doing by the mind. You can get free from suffering by surrendering your need to control how things are and just allow them to be how they are. This doesn't mean you shouldn't take action on things in your life. But take the action from place where you are first allowing the things to be as they are.

    Your true nature is infinite love, it resists nothing. It just loves. Once you align with your true nature it's the end of suffering. Now it's easy to understand this as you should be passive and let people rape each other etc. No this is not what i'm saying. You can take action on surface level of things. I'm talking about the inner acceptance and loving of how things are in your experience. 

    What ever arises, love that. -Matt Kahn


  8. 45 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

    A crazy recognition is that there already isn't anyone to stop seeking... there never was an individual that could be complete or incomplete in the first place.

    It's wild.

    The seeking energy feels separate and lacking & attempts to find a solution to an unreal problem.

    It will even try not seeking as a way to get what it believes is missing....

    Yeah it's a real mind-f***

    ❤ 

    Yes ultimately there isn't anyone to stop seeking. But from the perspective of the ego there is the seeking. Once you stop the seeking there is no seeker of course.


  9. If you can authentically help other people it's something that works on higher frequencies. You can help other people on most careers. Just put your heart in to it. Helping other people will raise your vibration even more. Egoic goals tend to be very self-centered. You can upgrade many of these kind of goals by turning around the "what can i have" to "how can i help you?".


  10. 1 minute ago, Terell Kirby said:

    Then what’s the point of any spiritual teachings/teachers? There would be no need for them if this truly was the case, as all of mankind would be woke.

    I think your perspective on this diminishes the hard work that truly enlightened sages / mystics suffered through to obtain liberation. One who reaches this knows it is not effortless by any means.

    Spiritual teachings are pointers to the relaxation of the mind. You see, we live in a world where most humans are so lost in their minds that they create their identity of their thoughts. The effort comes from this mind made self trying to achieve something. It can achieve lot's of things. Success, self-improvement etc. This is the one thing that no matter how much effort it puts in, it can not achieve this. The ego can not get enlightened. No matter how hard you work on spiritual practices you will not get enlightened until you stop all doing.

    However as i said some circling around in effort is often needed at first. Just to realize that this doesn't work.

    I'm not sure if you are familiar with the story of Buddha, but he put really hard work on his spiritual practices. But only once he stopped and went to full relaxation did he realize the completeness of his being.

    I'm not diminishing anybody's hard work, as i said it's often needed to work hard to realize that it's not effective. I did my part of hard work as well. But it's not what lead me to realize the nature of myself. It was the stopping of all this effort.


  11. 1 minute ago, Terell Kirby said:

    @ADD unless you are born enlightened, then there is not really a case for not doing spiritual work to reach enlightenment.

    Recognizing that everything was an illusion only happens after you bust out of it, and that requires effort through practice.

    Busting out of it doesn’t happen through sitting on ones ass, lying to yourself that you have always been enlightened. This is where the work comes in, and where the achievement (breakthrough) lies. Humility on the journey is key.

    You are mistaking to think that enlightenment is something to reach. Realization of your trueself is totally effortless. However it might seem that there is effort at first. It's complete relaxation. Or complete surrendering.

    I like how Rupert Spira puts it: It's like having been clenching your fist your whole life, then unclenching the fist seems like there is effort required. But in truth it's just relaxation of the fist.

    This is not about lying to yourself, it's realizing that you are already enlightened once you stop seeking anything more to add to your experience. What work are you talking about? What could you do? This is no self-improvement. There is no self to improve. The self that we are talking about is already complete. It has always been this way.

    The only thing that keeps you from realizing this is that you think there is something more to do. And by all means if you feel like you still need to do something to achieve something please do so. You have the freedom to do what you need to do. After you are done doing circles you will come to the point where you can see that no matter what you try to do you can not achieve what we are talking about by doing something. That's when you let go.

    We all have our own paths of doing circles around in this life. I had my own aswell. For each individual it's different, for some it takes decades, for some it takes years. Sooner or later in this life or next you will come to the realization that there's nothing you can do to make yourself complete. It's the dissolving of the seeker, realizing that you have actually been complete all the time. And that is of no effort. It's non-doing, it's relaxation, it's surrender. It's beautiful.


  12. 3 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

    It’s not a matter of already being complete, the whole point of spiritual work is finally realizing that you have been complete this whole time.

    The knowing is not guaranteed, and the knowing is what those who do spiritual work aim to achieve.

    Be careful with post like these unless you are very clear about what is needed on the spiritual path. Newbies cannot escape having to put in the work to reap the fruits of their labor. 

    The point is you can't work this out like every other area in your life. It's true that some seeking is often needed but it also needs to come to an end. There's lots of endless seekers on this path and this post is for them. Many are at the point that if they only would stop seeking something they would realize the completeness of what already is.

    You can't achieve the knowing of experience. You are the knowing of the experience no matter what you think you are.

    This path is not about achieving anything. There is absolutely nothing to achieve. The ego wants to achieve things, it thinks something in the future will make it complete. There is no such thing. You are already complete. Ending this seeking is the way to see it. It's relaxation of the mind. It's non-doing. It's effortless. Just stop.


  13. 6 minutes ago, iboughtleosbooklist said:

    Don't think it's as simple as that. I want to feel in control. Skateboarding, tennis, table tennis all become totally pointless and not fun if it's just watching a pov movie. I'm not just gonna sit back and watch like a feminine little bitch. Where's the fight in you young man? You don't enjoy the illusion of doership?

    If you are good in sports you are not in control. You are in flow state, the movement doesn't come from the little me. It manifests from the source straight through your nervous system. There's been studies where they monitored the brain activity between pro football (soccer) and amateur players. The results showed that the best players had very minimal brain activity during the game when the amateurs had much higher brain activity.

    I'm not talking about being passive in life. Quite the opposite actually, once you surrender to your true self is when you are in full control of your life. I was talking to the ego in you when i pointed out that you should give up the control. You are not the ego, the ego is an illusion. You are the life that mistakes itself to be this mind created little me.


  14. This was meant for people who have been spiritually seeking for long time. It's alright if it doesn't resonate with you right now. You are still complete just as you are.

    There's nothing to be afraid of. The infinite love is what you are. All you have to do is to let go of trying to control your life. Nothing needs to change, allowing this to be as it is reveals the truth. What is blocking you from seeing that you are infinite love is the fact that you are resisting life. You are resisting what you are. You are life, you have always been life. Surrender yourself to god. Let god take the wheel. The little me is like a baby trying to drive a lorry. It can't control it. In fact the baby doesn't even exist, it's an illusion created by the continuous stream of thoughts. It's a story that we tell ourselves and identify with. 


  15. 9 minutes ago, Raptorsin7 said:

    How does this paradigm account for my recent progress.

    I did a lot of emotional processing and inspection of my shadow. Inspected my mom, dad, brother, etc.

    Lots of yelling, emdr, forming new beliefs etc.

    And now I can cry. I haven't been able to cry since I was a little kid.

    The alternative is just listening to teachers tell me to be aware of my awareness. Which I did for about a year. But I never had the kind of results in my life that I'm getting now.

    Aware of being aware only truly worked on psychidelics. Its the only time it led to a major energeti shift.

    Crying is good. Sounds that you are getting good results with what you are doing now so what is the problem you are having? Not being in bliss 24/7? Try to stop more. See what happens if you stop a little bit more? No need to be aware of awareness. Just stop it all. Forget about your spiritual to-do list. Just stop. See what arises? Is there resistance towards it? Stop resisting, let it be as it is.