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@Leo Gura It would be extremely enlightening if you had a discussion with Athene – the creator of this documentary – as @actualized1 suggested. I think that would help me understand if logic indeed just is a quick fix of the ego, or something more.

@Elisabeth 1. My passion/goals is to do whatever is most logical in any given moment. Right now, the most logical thing to do with the information I have seems to be to try to restructure my worldview and belief systems to aligned with reality. This process includes reading up on things and gathering new information, questioning all my beliefs, and especially, reflecting upon everything that might cause be dissonance. The people who made the documentary also have some resources to help you once you've changed your core value to logic, so yesterday I spent some time looking into them. My ethics: I don't have strictly defined ethics as what is 'ethical' to do may vary from situation to situation. For instance, one may have a principle that he/she will never kill someone. However, if you're posed with the situation where you have to make the decision between killing one person and hence saving 10, or not killing anyone but the person you didn't kill will kill 10 people, then your ethical principle doesn't make sense anymore. Consequently, logic is my moral compass in every situation. 2. Well, once again, I will just want what is most logical (which varies from situation to situation, and is also dependant on the information that I have). When it comes to deciding on color I would just choose the one I find most aesthetically appealing unless choosing another one is of strategic significance. 3. The emotion of love feels the same. I still love the people I used to love. I think though that what you're really meaning to ask with your third question is whether logic makes you a cold robot or not. The answer: Absolutely not. You will still have and experience emotions like the rest of humanity, the difference is that your emotional part of the brain will be aligned with the rational part of your brain and thus you will not experience inner conflict. 4. I haven't been into such a situation. However, judging by what neurology says instincts in critical situations will overpower your ability of rational thinking. It's called an amygdala hijack.

@Leo Gura I'm really grateful that you're taking the time to discuss this as I've been helped many times before by your videos. But let me explain why I don't think that emotions are going to overpower logic. When you follow the four steps that are detailed in the video (and follow them thoroughly) you change your what you value the most on an emotional level – your 'core value' as they call it – to logic. For example, I found that my core value was comfort and now I changed it to logic. When you change your core value to logic your rational part of the brain becomes inline with your emotional part of the brain, because the emotional part now also values logic on a fundamental level. (I think this is also why I've been in a state of presence and flow all the time since I made the click, since there has been no dissonance between neural networks within my brain.) PS: I write this just after waking up and I still experience the same effects that I described yesterday.

I actually read up about this and followed the four steps. The transformation I experienced is surreal, I think it's really like a spiritual transformation. For example, I used to have confidence and self-esteem issues, and now they're just all gone because I know they are not logical and since logic is my core value I just let go of them immediately. I also feel super clear-headed, present in the moment, and have total peace of mind all day long since I followed these steps earlier this day. Ego has vanished completely, I have no sense of identity any longer, I just am. However, I'm still a bit skeptical because maybe this is just a placebo and I will stop being in this state of absolute peace and joy tomorrow or sometime soon. I will do some more research into this and report back to you guys in a few days. @nolenjoney Logic is not cold. Think about it, if it wasn't for logic – the mathematical patterns that govern our universe – you would not be able to experience anything that you experience. Since the laws of nature are what bring about everything that we can perceive we have them to thank for things such as pleasent emotions, etc. Also, I think that logic can be used to solve humanity's suffering, and there are two reasons why I think so: i) Every major advancement in human history has been made thanks to our ability to understand logic and apply it to reality (e.g. medical system, houses, the Internet, computers, and so on); ii) Since I change my core value to logic (or at least I think I did, but we'll have to see) all my problems vanished from one second to another as it was just not logical to have them (e.g. low self-esteem, lack of confidence, procrastination). PS: Sorry for the messy post, I am in a really excited and tired state while writing this. (Excited because of the effects of following the steps that were outlined in the documentary.)

I saw the documentary and to be honest I'm not sure about it. Although it definitely sounds interesting. But I guess that we who are on the path of self-actualisation should keep an open-mind and thoroughly try things out before saying that they don't work. I will watch it again tomorrow and then look into the steps that are explained a bit more. Make sure to update us if you maintain this '24/7 DMT dopamine rush' in a few days.