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This isn't meant to be a rebuttal or anything like that, just some thoughts on what was written and how we can express some of these ideas with less confusion and pain. https://actualized.org/insights/the-genius-of-tracie-harris Unclear what is meant by "scientific evidence" here. Science says nothing about morality - but science can tell you about the suffering inflicted on the child, their psychology, and their outcomes as adults. Why the duality between us and God here? A form of the absolute does care about this issue. The distinction is confusing. Atheism, and valuing science is just one aspect of a person's life. Some atheists believe morality is objectively based on some set criteria like "well being" or "reducing suffering". Other atheists believe morality is relative, and that we can come to the same subjective ideas about morality without a divine authority. What is the problem here? We are humans having a human experience. We effect change in our relative human domain by having opinions and fighting for whatever cause we find ourselves in. It is reminiscent of Krishna reminding Arjuna of his duties as a warrior in the Bhagavad Gita: I guess your overall point is that there's more to the world than our relative human concerns which is of course true. I do agree with morals being subjective. I guess my issue is with reducing all human concerns to pettiness as opposed to being an important and integral part of the absolute which is doing as we should @Leo Gura feel free to clarify.

Agreed. There's no point in self harm either.

Right, so why don't you just jump off a bridge now? Because we want to enjoy our hallucinogenic experience of reality. You experience life with some degree of caution because you value the game. So don't give me this bullshit.

This is great advice. The rest of you who are suggesting he do more 5 MeO. You are suggesting someone with PTSD symptoms and a sensitized nervous system take more of the most powerful hallucinogen known, which got him in this situation in the first place. What's wrong with you?

How much of a mystical experience is primed by cultural reference? During a near death experience, a Christian sees christian theological memes, whereas someone from a different culture will see completely different imagery and themes. They aren't even pointing in the same direction. You mention how psychedelic use won't bring you to a full awakening without studying and having a framework beforehand. How do you address this chicken and egg situation? You can't reach the truth without direct experience, but you also can't reach the truth without a theoretical framework. Is our perception of awakening completely dependent upon our pre-existing neural networks? Even If our cognitive filter is off (ego), what's left is still what was already there. I'm not saying I completely stand behind this objection, but it's something I wrestle with from time to time.

It's not always the case where women know what's best for a man to do in the dating world, but this is REALLY good advice. Listen to her. Go do other things and build your confidence. Your neediness will naturally go way down.

He's already in a fearful mind state, if you couldn't tell. I wasn't suggesting it was wise to do what he did, I was only pointing out there's no reason to add more fear on top of his existing anxiety. Obviously, you're playing with fire doing such strong psychedelics within a short time frame. It's not because it stays in your system some arbitrary number of days, it's because you're likely already more sensitized physically and emotionally.

Don't fall into this trap of worrying about permanent damage. Just because something stays in your system, doesn't mean it's actively affecting you. Marijuana stays in your system for a month. So what? You're just feeding anxiety with this.

Another issue to consider with minimum wage is, how will this scale with the future? As automation becomes more prominent and other job markets are cleared out, where will minimum wage come into play? Minimum wage will only accelerate large corporations investing in automation. You sign it now, and then in a few years the rate is obsolete, and you have a long winded battle to once again establish a new minimum wage as pay lags behind for years. It's a bad idea now, and it's even a worse idea going forward.

If this were true across the board, every employee in the U.S. would feel their pay is not "fair." Yet, in many lucrative fields there are employees who are very happy with their salaries. They feel fairly compensated. What is "fair"? The reason someone living in poverty feels their wage isn't "fair" is because they're living in poverty and having a hard time keeping up with their expenses. That doesn't mean the wage isn't fair, it means there is a bigger societal issue at play here. Not everyone can earn a livable wage through the job market alone. To me this points to other social welfare programs needing to be expanded. If people weren't so reliant on these minimum wage jobs, what happens to all of that leverage you point to? It starts to shift and wages will rise for those jobs as there are less inclined to take those positions. What makes a wage fair is simply that someone else is willing to do the same work for the same compensation. You've created a new definition of fair to mean "living wage" - but what you've done is put a monkey wrench in a system not designed to handle social issues at large. As you say, there are many ways to improve minimum wage - though it doesn't negate there are better solutions. You've countered the small business argument with theoretical models of minimum wage which no one in your political party is talking about. They just unanimously parrot $15 / hr. In the proposed solution, small businesses WOULD be hurt. We both agree large corporations should bear a larger burden, but disagree about how to get there. As I said in my previous post, I'm for raising corporate taxes at the highest levels and expanding other social welfare programs. You make the valid point that businesses are designed to maximize profit. Yes! That's what they do. Minimum wage is like trying to remove the stripes from a Zebra. Let businesses do what they do best, and find other avenues.

I agree with most of your points. Yeah, the effects of UBI would be fairly complex - though I'm a proponent for trying it. It could definitely help. Much of the UBI funds are going to go right back into the economy, which would stimulate business. The downside is a sort of inflationary reaction. With rising prices as well as rising wages because of the dynamic you've described. I think above all we need smarter corporate tax systems in place. If your annual revenue is in the billions, you simply CAN'T be allowed to pay nothing. We need to force multi billion dollar corporations to pay taxes.

That libertarian was pretty dumb. I'm not libertarian but I don't think raising the minimum wage is how you deal with this problem. The problem with politics and these binary political parties is that you have "consensus" solutions like raising the minimum wage. It's not even controversial at all among progressives. It's just assumed this is the correct solution. What you have is a societal problem, and you're offloading it onto ALL businesses. This means small businesses are highly impacted from raising minimum wage. Leftists seem to only think about some evil rich billionaire with big box stores like Walmart. If you wanted a more nuanced way to handle this inequality, you could raise corporate taxes at the highest level and close some of these loopholes, then feed it back into the social safety net programs out there. What you shouldn't do is just arbitrarily set someone's value as an employee regardless of location or context. This is so lazy.

It's not going to make anything worse, necessarily. If it's causing you fear, maybe work your way back into it slowly.

You're just overthinking it. It's easy to see because of how detailed your reports are about where it's more or less intense. This is anxiety thinking. Anxiety feeds off your fear and attention. You have a bunch of imaginative people here suggesting to you that you're on the verge of some crazy ego death and having kundalini awakenings, etc. I wouldn't take it too seriously. It's probably just adding to your stress. The good news is, whether it's "kundalini" or just plain old stress causing weirding body sensations and symptoms (very typical) - the answer is the same. It will pass. You will be fine. Know this and float through what's happening until it subsides. Don't worry!

It's anxiety my guy. Whether you call it kundalini or an over active nervous system it's the same. Kundalini is the nervous system. All of the sensations, symptoms, fears, and feelings you're experiencing are just as common for people suffering with anxiety. Check out this list: https://www.anxietycentre.com/anxiety-symptoms.shtml 5-MeO ramped up your nervous system, and it takes time for it to calm down. The issue is, you're so worried about what's happening that it's keeping your nervous system on edge. It's a vicious cycle. You don't have to do anything to get over this. It's a chinese finger trip. The sooner you let go, the sooner you will recover. Just give it time, as much time as it takes. Don't count the days, weeks, or hours any longer. Best of luck!

I had a DMT trip last year which convinced me my ex was my soulmate and that the universe was showing me how my destiny was going to unfold. Two months later I realized how deluded I was. It seems that more than anything else these psychedelics are windows to your subconscious. Leo is definitely more focused on the mechanics of absolute infinity, and the vastness of it. He's preoccupied with how much greater exponential levels of consciousness he can obtain. Maybe it's metaphor for an insatiability with knowledge or wisdom. Maybe it's something else entirely. All I know for certain is our convictions can change at the drop of a hat, so always remain humble.

This seems to be a chicken and egg issue you've skirted over. Materialists are close minded because they haven't directly experienced the absolute, but those who have experienced the absolute and draw different conclusions are close minded because they are in the materialist paradigm. So what makes your direct experience worth more than the next's? Are your experiences not just as colored as theirs are?

Good self awareness. Try to be more mindful about how you're promoting new ideas and concepts to the world. First of all, you seem very attached to certain concepts and this has made you sound dogmatic. Second, pay attention to why you're really putting this out there. Try to have pure intentions. The best way to initiate change is to embody what you'd like to see. Others will surely follow if you're emanating the right energy. Leo has done a lot to help others, but he's also a zen devil at times. Now more recently he will describe the absolute in a thousand different ways for an hour plus each video. What does this do to help his viewers? Mostly nothing. Which is exactly why you don't see other more mature masters behaving this way.

I would never suggest it's women's fault or that they should bear the burden of the incels. The truth is there will always be truly incel men, and it's very sad. Sure, a significant portion of them can work through their issues and attract women. Let's be real though, not all of them will be able to. These guys carry a double burden. They are unattractive to women, and they are chastised for being unattractive to women. How these men deal with the issue is misguided and toxic. These guys have enough shame, shaming them isn't going to help or change anything. I'm not sure how we're supposed to handle them, I just know that further shaming them is counter productive. For many of them, it's fair to suggest ways to improve. But let's be real, some of these guys will never be able to attract women or form relationships. This isn't disney world. It's tragic.

Most people are weak minded. He can stop overusing the word "devil" and drop the air of condemnation when there is confusion, challenge, or disagreement. This would help.

The Buddhists have the idea of "Mental Continuum" which isn't a permanent YOU but something as close to a temporary identity as one could come to understand... https://studybuddhism.com/en/advanced-studies/lam-rim/impermanence-death/how-mental-continuums-perpetuate-themselves

Lol here we go... Does having a mystical experience (which I've had a handful) turn me into the three eyed raven? You are a perfect example of said parrot.

@Joseph Maynor making some really good points here. Take some time off the forum, brother. @Leo Gura is right about others turning his teachings into religion. He has always been explicit about not doing this. I see way too many here parroting things Leo says as if they are absolute fact. Though I would say Leo inadvertently contributes to this by hammering his truth into whoever questions him. When you're confused and the leader here refers to your behaviors as devilry, either you or onlookers with weaker minds will fall into blind faith parroting and mimicking to stay in line. "This is the answer you devil!" - What do you expect is going to happen?

https://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty-ebook/dp/B005EOTH24 This is the book. Enjoy.

All of you sound dogmatic. Let him or her find out on their own. They aren't asking questions, so they aren't receptive to your answers.