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This is intellectually dishonest and you know better. We are talking about people saying there should not be a Muslim state, we're not talking about dictator governments. This is what is said about the Jewish state. That a Jewish state should not exist. Because they've already done it and succeeded. These nations are essentially only for Muslims and most others have been pushed out. MAGA exists today. There are countless crimes and actions being perpetuated by the American government today. Are all Americans being lumped in with that? No. Yet an Israeli restaurant in New York is boycotted and vandalized which has nothing to do what's happening thousands of miles away. Just because they have a connection to Israel. This behavior is encouraged and advocated for. Liberal Zionists both fight for the existence of the Jewish state and protest for the removal of Bibi, the removal of the settlers, etc. There is no approval. That much of their effort is wasted also litigating their right to exist is on you. Most of us don't have millions or billions of dollars to be a real factor in this conflict short of speaking with our people and trying to reason with them so that voting behaviors change.

What does that have to do with what I wrote? I never disputed the history of Zionism. I am specifically talking about how most Jews use the terminology and what their beliefs are. They do not believe in colonialism. They believe in a Jewish state. You missed the point again. It is antisemitic to single out the Jewish state. It's no surprise you didn't use the counter example of it not being Islamophobic to be against a Muslim state. It sounds absurd to read the words because they've never been expressed even though its the same thing. Its not irrelevant. This is both a religious and territorial issue. You're actively trying to reduce it to only a territorial one even though there's a huge religious component to it. I don't know why anti Israel voices need to pretend that the nation of Israel belonging to Jews in that territory is not a huge aspect of mainstream Judaic thought. You also smuggled in the term supremacist. Would you use the same terminology for those Muslim nations you defend? Despite not currently having any apartheid like situation they effectively function as what you would consider Islamic supremacy using the same definitions. Once again, it sounds stupid when the coin is flipped. Also you continually ignore my entire point which is to speak of how present day Jews use and think about Zionism. The pioneering zionists do not represent us much the same way the pioneering imperialists who conquered and founded any nations don't represent their current ideals. I agree with you here. That's why my plea is to stay focused on the primary issue, which is Palestinian subjugation. What ends up happening is that loaded terms like Zionism are demonized and the core issue gets buried under the rubble. My entire point was that if the focus was on Palestinian suffering you wouldn't have millions of Jews feeling like they are being singled out and attacked for simply believing in a Jewish state.

But like I said, most Jews equate Zionism to the belief in a Jewish state. Not colonialism, not ethnic cleansing, not jewish superiority, not greater Israel, not any of this other stuff. So when the attack vector is "Zionism" it pushes away many Jews who would otherwise fight for human decency. I feel like there needs to be another word for the truly horrific aspects of Israeli policy outside of the jewish state identity. Because having a religious or ethnic identity is common around the world. So you end up with many Jews rightfully calling this out as anti-semitism because it is the Jewish state being singled out. Then you have this bullshit that Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. They pretend that the land of Israel isn't integral to Jewish teachings or tradition. That because there's a tiny minority of Jews who believe that Jews shouldn't be in Israel now, but only after the messiah returns, that Judaism and the land of Israel aren't inherently linked. It's insane. Now I'm not saying that's a reason to take another people's land. And given the same scenario today, I don't think it would have happened or should have. But post WW2, it did happen. Now we want to make up bullshit and pretend the two don't go together. Western progressives at least need to come to terms with reality. Even the Palestinians have more of an understanding re: the Jewish connection to the land.

The outside world doesn't realize that Israelis are mostly educated to view all these wars as defensive and to be in the pursuit of peace. Much like how Americans are educated that all wars are for "Freedom" or "democracy." These governments all behave insanely, but Americans generally believe the nation represents a force for good in the world as an example. At least until recently.

Sorry, not my style. I'm not trying to be carnival character. Use humor and your words, you can be interesting without dressing and acting like a clown.

To most Jews Zionism is just the belief in a Jewish state. The demonization of that in present day society is one of the most extreme reactions I've seen. Equivocating that to Nazism, etc. There are 6-8 official "Islamic" nations. There are 23 nations where the official religion is Islam. There are millions and even billions who believe this should be the case. They are not designated Nazis. These nations all have histories filled with violence and conquest. I'm not excusing present day Israel's actions, and if there are initiatives to expand and take more land, we should call those out. But because of the roots of a movement 100 years ago, the two ideas have become interlinked. Colonialism and the belief in a Jewish State. Some say they can't be separated, but we would not apply that standard to any other country. If you are pro United States or believe in the country as a whole, no one would claim you are a colonialist. No one would say anyone with ties to America is pro ethnic cleansing because of the nation's history or even what they are currently doing around the world. Yet this is what happens today to anyone with ties to Israel. Now you may not agree with the idea of a Jewish state, and claim you apply that universally to all religious or ethno states. You believe in secular ideals, fine. Sure. But this ignores the reality of the world and the region. This is the holy land. This utopian idea, that if not for Zionism there would be one secular state. It is complete nonsense. Almost no one living in the region wants that, neither Israeli or Palestinian. The 2024 joint PCPSR/Tel Aviv University poll found: Palestinians 40% - two states 33% - one Palestinian-dominated state with limited rights for Jews 25% - one democratic state with equal rights Israeli Jews 21% - two states 42% - annexation/one state without equal Palestinian rights 14% - one democratic state with equal rights But there’s newer Palestinian polling. A 2025 PCPSR poll that explicitly made respondents choose among three alternatives found: 47% - two states 18% - Israeli-Palestinian confederation 12% - one state with Jews and Palestinians living equally 24% - don’t know/no answer. And Arab Barometer’s October 2025 polling is even more striking: 59% of Palestinians preferred two states, while one state was in the single digits. In Gaza specifically, support for two states was 64%. SO yeah, no one wants that. The Palestinians themselves would rather each side have their own ethno state with self determination, rather than this Western bullshit ideal that was projected onto the region.

Good job, dude. I think you figured it out but the magic aspect of it isn't as necessary as your state being dialed in. I think you could drop the magic and go for more simple direct approaches. Sometimes it is easier when you start by telling them you are interested in them. That way it doesn't feel as awkward when trying to go for the number. A simple "Hey, I just thought you were cute and wanted to say hi" works wonders.

Yes. You know who your best dating coach will be? Your next girlfriend. Because she will expose what a twat you are. (Not you personally.)

I have to level with some of y'all. You take this too seriously and are too deep down the rabbit hole consuming and following this PUA community content. I'm not saying its not useful to learn some pick up and game, but diminishing returns hit extremely fast here. 90% of it is just the push to do approaches. Another 5% are the basics of direct approach vs non direct. The last 5% are all of these specifics the dating coaches might impart on you. All of those little nuggets of knowledge, you can't really integrate them. Its too many small disconnected threads and competing ideologies. The only way to get better is to date and spend more time with women. Even more importantly, to spend more time improving and living your life. You aren't going to get better at game by consuming more of this content. Take the basic messages, then go live your life and develop your own style. Its like that old Alan Watts adage: when you get the message hang up the phone.

Completely agree about different styles working for different personalities. I don't think there's a one size fits at all. His name is Vadim btw, and if you've seen enough of his content you know that he's generally more fun and silly but he does have different gears where he can be more grounded and serious. He's had a ton of success. His channel is called Honest signalz because that is the main idea, to give off the right energy which honestly fits your character. I don't know why he doesn't post as much these days, but it appears he still does his boot camps, etc.

I don't like Todd V's style. He takes himself so seriously and is very rigid and boring IMO. This was the one game video I saw years ago that basically unlocked me. Once I realized I can just have fun with it and not take it so seriously I did much better.

I'm in a great committed relationship now but back when I was learning the ropes my top two resources were: https://www.youtube.com/user/honestsignalz Vadim has such a unique style that fit my personality of not taking oneself too seriously. I don't think there's one way to do things, but just watching him do pick up on the streets in his fun and goofy way unlocked something in me. https://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty/dp/1463750358 The second one is this book from Mark Manson. It is a really mature take on dating and relationships. Notice how both of them focus on honesty and inner game. It really simplifies the whole thing. To summarize: focus on your inner game, self improve in every meaningful way such as career, clothing, hygiene, spiritually, etc. Travel, gain worldly experience. Do things that challenge you. You will gain competency and confidence which cannot be faked. Then be yourself takes on a different meaning, it just happens. That's your core right there. Then all you need are some basics when it comes to approaching. Choose a simple direct approach which Vadim teaches if you're learning. Simplicity really is key.

It seems like 50% or more of the posts these days are just rehashes of anti scientist or anti science slop. I get what Leo is trying to do but I can't shake the sense that this is not the message for the moment. It's 2026. Trump is president. RFK is the head of the HHS. We are in the aftermath of heavy anti-vax and anti expert sentiment. Experts in any domain have never been less trusted. Experts today utilize our flawed but very useful current understandings of science and available studies. This understanding at least has some grounding in reality in our relative material world. The vast majority of people have replaced trust in science and experts with trust in grifting social media influencers and pseudoscience nonsense. Science is a tool. What is the purpose of continuously disparaging a tool? It would be no different from creating 300 blog posts about how a screwdriver is trash because some of us use the wrong screws, put things together half hazardly and don't know what we're doing. That's not the fault of the tool, that's the fault of the user. But oh wait, a screwdriver can't build your entire house. Of course not, it's just one tool in the bigger picture. Just as science is one facet of truth. No one claims that science can be used to discuss God or other epistemic issues. So why continually harp on it for that? Is that really where the majority of people are stuck now? The greatest peril of our civilization at the moment is that society believes you can replace religion with science? Maybe for a brief moment in major U.S. cities circa 2010. This is vastly outdated. The present moment demands a different focus. To critique science and surpass it you need to first understand it and know how to use it. Your message will fall on the vulnerable ignorant who will use it as justification to trust the influence of grifters and pseudoscience peddlers. If the goal is to be helpful, I can't see how this is the right path.

Yeah I didn't spend too much time dissecting your disagreement but the core of her suggestion is right. You just need to spend more time. Sometimes we can go through a ton of rejection until we break through.

Hey dude. I've been the stoic quiet / serious guy type when I was young. You're going to look back at this as childish, silly and cringe one day after you've had more experiences with women. Yes, @Emerald is right that you will have to spend a lot more time around women. Yes, you can't sit home and play video games. Yes, you will have to leave your comfort zone. And yes, you will see it isn't masculinity that is holding you back, it is that your personality hasn't fully developed yet. The answer is more experiences. More dates, more travel, more shows, more heartbreaks, more drama, more career developments, more friends, more hobbies, more creative outlets, more comedy, etc. When you have that, you will find that you can more easily relate to everyone, not just women. At the end of the day women want to feel safe and comfortable around you. That is where your masculinity comes in. Your job is to make her feel safe. Being funny, silly and making jokes helps put them at ease. Understanding where they're coming from, being able to relate as a human - that makes them feel comfortable. Get on the dating apps, go on as many dates as you can. I promise you will have success eventually. You may meet one girl who sees something in you, and pushes you to break out of some of your neuroses. Either way, you will get there. Best of luck.

What has this thread become? Bots arguing? How do we feel about the ceasefire?

It's antisemitic drivel like this which is barely beneath the surface that as a Jew makes me support Israel even more unapologetically. Eat shit.

Not surprised to see a thread about Charlie Kirk being shot in Chicago, become 50% about Israel / Jews.

I came across a silly propaganda image suggesting that all of Israel would be Jordan if Israel lost, so I asked ChatGPT to rebuke it and it resulted in a kind of funny result. SO then I said: "So there would still not have been palestine?" And she replied: The world is a fascinating place.

Of course many Palestinian Hamas combatants dehumanize Jews and Israelis the same way. It's always awful. This goes beyond in the moment battle reaction though. His cluelessness months later about why they might care about their loved one's body shows that. That guy has permanently shut off part of his humanity.

That's fucked. Hurts to read stuff like that. Dehumanization for sure.

Then say "war criminals" - not Jews. Being Jewish doesn't make you a criminal. In fact, being a Zionist doesn't make you a criminal. It just means you believe Israel has a right to exist. Not to expand, not to attack, not to kill - to exist.

I don't support what Israel is doing but you can go eat a dick.

They added more X posts to the training data. AKA uncensored posts. Once you open the floodgates of negative content the AI is flooded with, garbage out ensues.