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It's possible that for some individuals that are some compromises. In general I think it is hard to justify what we do to animals, even in that context. Not only will he get less laid, he would also not be famous, he wouldn't be rich and he would basically have no status.

This is very comprehensive! I basically did/am aware of most of the concepts here, but I might have to up my iron intake because I take 20-40mg bisglycinate at most. Thank you for this I definitely will take some of the things into account and implement them.

You are buying into gender culture wars.

Women and men seem to experience the same rates of loneliness (with no contextualization of what that loneliness is), but women have more friends and are less likely to have no friends than men. The reason why more women raised their hands might be because women are more willing to admit when they feel lonely.

Probably hormone replacement therapy, given his age.

Yes, it's how people get annoyed at vegans if they talk about the ethics of meat-eating. And if the vegans get frustrated, they will pretend that they would have been far more likely to be convinced if only the vegan wasn't so annoying. The reality is, they just don't want their value system to be challenged because they feel comfortable, and they want the vegan to behave in line with social norms because then they don't annoy them as much with their pesky morality. Though of course stage green doesn't do itself any favor with the way it is enforcing it's value systems. Stage green should learn from stage orange and realize peer pressure is not a great way of convincing people of your cause.

I do use levothyroxine of course but I don't really feel optimal on it.

And Andrew Tate isn't merely attracted, he is a predator, which most pedophiles are not.

They aren't pedophiles, but child predators. Don't tarnish pedophiles by associating them with Tate.

But if you don't take any iodine how will the thyroid function in the first place? I wasn't looking for low dosage ones, they are much less expensive.

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Not really, I'm still working on it. I can feel normal for a week or so if I take low iodine supplements, 25mcg, together with selenium. But then I have to take significant break because symptoms will worsen. That stuff is super expensive.

I'm not going to repeat what I just said, you literally didn't respond to it and pretended like I never corrected you about your bad faith interpretation of what you think I claimed.

Right, so why is this an argument? You said we shouldn't use humans like this because they want to live, but you are okay treating animals and plants this way.

There is no dairy that is sold that doesnt come with killing, and rape is always necessary to keep the cows pregnant. But we could just have milk humans who are raped and then we use their milk. Why would we go extinct if we only eat a special class of humans we breed? Cows aren't going extinct, are they? Why do we not want that?

Lobbyism serves an important function, do you know what it is?

We could drink human milk, that's not cannibalism. All animal agriculture requires rape, so it's not like you are against that if you eat meat or drink milk. Why would we go extinct? We had slave classes in the past, it worked for thousands of years. We don't have to be emotionally invested in the food-human class. Animals want to continue living.

But we aren't talking about what you personally would do, but what should be allowed in society. Why would we have laws against killing and eating humans? We could have a special breed that we can kill and eat, like pigs. Why not?

Why luckily? According to you there is no difference between them and animals. So why not have a human slave class to eat? In the end we have to kill to survive right? I do.

It's not that I understand the topic, I understand how stupid the unreflected assumptions are that go with people who just mindlessly compare animal consciousness to plant consciousness and assume some sort of naive realistic connection between the two, as if an act in itself causes a certain experience. Just because you cut something doesn't mean it will feel pain. The pain in response to being cut, in animals, is a very particular thing. So there should be no problem with creating a human slave food class that we don't emotionally connect to. Then you better get to research it, given that this is a life and death question.

Why does it matter if they are human or not? We could have a class of humans we don't care about that we breed and dehumanize, like we do with animals. That's all animals, because all of them are slaves whose children are stolen. Why do you kill more than you need to? If you kill an animal, you kill the animal and all the plants that had to die to feed it. If you only eat plants, you will kill no animal, and far less plants than the animal would have eaten, to get the same nutrients.

It's not only abusers who must increase their compassion. No, they eat what we feed them. You are attempting to relativize your killing of animals by comparing them to plants. As if killing a human was the same as pulling a blade of grass. Conversely, you would deem it permissible to kill and eat humans who are not as self-aware as you are. You don't have to be a friend of someone to not pay for their enslavement and death. Some animals eat meat because they evolved to.

Well, I think you need to work on your basic compassion. Most plants we kill are killed by the animals that we then kill to consume. Less plants have to die if you simply eat the plants. But yes, plants most likely don't have individuated consciousness.

Obviously? Why do we not have a special race of humans that we breed and kill for food?

No, it's not just the pain. I think we shouldn't kill animals for food for the same reasons we shouldn't kill humans for food. It's delicious because it provides nutrients that are not easy to come by otherwise in a natural scenarios.